What Kind of Fish Oil Should I Buy?

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    Apr 05, 2009 2:33 PM GMT
    I would like to start taking fish oil on a daily basis. I was at WAL-MART and noticed there are several kinds. Does anyone suggest a certain brand or is there something in the fish oil I should look for?(How many miligrams,etc.)Thanks!
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    Apr 05, 2009 3:41 PM GMT
    you're looking for a brand that is high in omega-3 fatty acids. those acids are what offers your body the health benefits. if you have several different brands to choose from, choose the one highest in omega-3's.

    we prescribe them all the time to lower triglycerides. 2000mg in the morning, 2000mg in the evening. if you 'burp' fish taste, try taking the gelcaps under your meal (i.e. before you eat) or putting the bottle of gelcaps in the freezer.
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    Apr 05, 2009 3:41 PM GMT
    First of all you need a fish oil verified by the US Pharmacopeia. This Federal government agency will test the product for safety. They check the mercury content since the oil is obviously from fish. If you go to Walmart, the brand Spring Valley is certified. They may have other certified brands but this is what I use. If this brand is not available, ask the pharmacist which of their brands is certified. Certified brands will say US Pharacopeia (USP) on the label.

    Buy the 1000 mg capsules

    Now this is where people get confused. The 1000 mg capsules of fish oil does not contain 1000 mg of Omega 3 fatty acids (DHA/EPA). The amount is less depending on the product. The bottle I'm looking at contains 300 mg of EPA and DHA. (which are the Omega 3 fatty acids).

    You should check with your physician or pharmacist how many capsules you should take. There are different doses for heart disease prevention, diabetes, triglycerides and general health.

    What ever you do. Do not take cod liver oil at these dosages since it is not the same as fish oil. You will get vitamin A poisoning. Cod liver oil is only from the liver while fish oil is from the whole fish.
    The best fish oils come from fatty cold water fish like salmon.

    Fish oil used in large doses has the potential to cause excess bleeding
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    Apr 05, 2009 3:43 PM GMT
    What does this shiz even do? It sounds like some sort of rip off fad.
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    Apr 05, 2009 3:45 PM GMT
    Nordic Naturals is a great brand....but it isnt cheap

    http://www.nordicnaturals.com/
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    Apr 05, 2009 4:03 PM GMT
    InsatiableBloom saidWhat does this shiz even do? It sounds like some sort of rip off fad.


    Since I'm a Vegetarian I can not speak from personal experience. However a friend I go to the gym with is a Bodybuilder and a HEAVY lifter. He has always had light and tolerable shoulder pain while relaxing. After 6 months of taking fish oil, he claims the pain is gone. I passed this along to someone I work with, and after 6 months or so they claim to no longer have the slight joint pain either.
    True or not...figment of ones imagination...who knows?
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    Apr 05, 2009 4:05 PM GMT
    If you're a bit of a hippy, you should consider its origins too. Some Omega-3 oils come from baby harp seals in Canada or endangered fish stock anywhere in the world. If it doesn't worry you then it doesn't matter (to you).
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    Apr 05, 2009 4:06 PM GMT
    InsatiableBloom saidWhat does this shiz even do? It sounds like some sort of rip off fad.



    Fish Oil is not a fraud. It is prescribed for several diseases by physicians. There are so many potential benefits I can't list them here. If you want to read about them here is a link to the Linus Pauling Institute. If you did not know who Pauling is, he is the only person to win two Nobel prizes in different fields.

    http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/omega3fa/
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    Apr 05, 2009 4:11 PM GMT
    InsatiableBloom saidWhat does this shiz even do? It sounds like some sort of rip off fad.

    Fish oil is taken for its Omega-3 fatty acid content.....Here kid, read up.

    http://whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=84#function
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    Apr 05, 2009 4:11 PM GMT
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    InsatiableBloom saidWhat does this shiz even do? It sounds like some sort of rip off fad.


    Since I'm a Vegetarian I can not speak from personal experience. However a friend I go to the gym with is a Bodybuilder and a HEAVY lifter. He has always had light and tolerable shoulder pain while relaxing. After 6 months of taking fish oil, he claims the pain is gone. I passed this along to someone I work with, and after 6 months or so they claim to no longer have the slight joint pain either.
    True or not...figment of ones imagination...who knows?
    -Cheers,
    Keith
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    Fish oil has anti-inflammatory properties. It is being by rheumatologists to treat Rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus. It will reduce some of the aches and pains from osteoarthritis like aspirin and Motrin do.
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    Apr 05, 2009 4:25 PM GMT
    Hey thanks!!!
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    Apr 05, 2009 4:33 PM GMT
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    Musclequest said
    InsatiableBloom saidWhat does this shiz even do? It sounds like some sort of rip off fad.


    Since I'm a Vegetarian I can not speak from personal experience. However a friend I go to the gym with is a Bodybuilder and a HEAVY lifter. He has always had light and tolerable shoulder pain while relaxing. After 6 months of taking fish oil, he claims the pain is gone. I passed this along to someone I work with, and after 6 months or so they claim to no longer have the slight joint pain either.
    True or not...figment of ones imagination...who knows?
    -Cheers,
    Keith
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    Fish oil has anti-inflammatory properties. It is being by rheumatologists to treat Rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus. It will reduce some of the aches and pains from osteoarthritis like aspirin and Motrin do.


    Well benefitting on the backs of dead animals from where this oil comes from is despicable. Put up with the discomfort.
    My elbows kill after curls, and my knees from squats. But I'd rather suck it up than take something derived from the death of an animal.

    Alright....I promise I am off my soap-box. No flame wars shall ensue....THIS TIME
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    Apr 05, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
    General rule of thumb is to add up EPA and DHA per serving, and If the total adds up to anywhere from 300 to 600 mg per serving. You can starting cheering like a school girl.
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    Apr 05, 2009 4:50 PM GMT
    Musclequest said
    kneedraggen said
    Musclequest said
    InsatiableBloom said
    Well benefitting on the backs of dead animals from where this oil comes from is despicable. Put up with the discomfort.
    My elbows kill after curls, and my knees from squats. But I'd rather suck it up than take something derived from the death of an animal.

    Alright....I promise I am off my soap-box. No flame wars shall ensue....THIS TIME
    Cheers,
    Keith
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    Keith..there is hope for vegetarians like you. Omega -3's are found in many plant sources. Flaxseed oil is often substituted for fish oil. Other plant foods high in Omega-3 are walnuts(very good source), tofu raw, baked winter squash. There is no need for a war...icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 05, 2009 4:55 PM GMT
    kneedraggen said
    Musclequest said
    kneedraggen said
    Musclequest said
    InsatiableBloom said
    Well benefitting on the backs of dead animals from where this oil comes from is despicable. Put up with the discomfort.
    My elbows kill after curls, and my knees from squats. But I'd rather suck it up than take something derived from the death of an animal.

    Alright....I promise I am off my soap-box. No flame wars shall ensue....THIS TIME
    Cheers,
    Keith
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    Keith..there is hope for vegetarians like you. Omega -3's are found in many plant sources. Flaxseed oil is often substituted for fish oil. Other plant foods high in Omega-3 are walnuts(very good source), tofu raw, baked winter squash. There is no need for a war...icon_biggrin.gif


    Hmmm. Thanks. Those are already a good part of my intake. I will have to look more into this.
    Appreciate it!
    Cheers, Keith
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    Apr 05, 2009 5:06 PM GMT
    All that is stated above is true...the Omega-3s are anti-inflamitories and the making sure it's properly tested for mercury toxicity is absolutely necessary. I use it for patients for cardiac issues of many sorts....and many other things....diabetics, ADD, etc. Potency is the main issue.
    Some companies also place Omega-6s and 9's in as well...those are not really necessary as we get those very easily from our diet most oils and grains and some veggies....it's the 3's you're after....as we almost always are deficient...and if those 6's are matched one to one to the 3's the 6's create inflammation.
    Now an intereseting thing is that Krill Oil is the richest source and carries the most potency...40 to 50 times higher than any other source...so I use a company named Pharmanex (clinically standadized and tested for toxicity) because they put Krill Oil in their product. The Krill is the only known living thing (little small sea creatures that huge whales eat by the billions....the krill are vegetarians as they eat algae and plankton) that makes a type of bioflavanoid within their boddies that allow the uptake of the oil extracted from them to be so potent.
    If this helps here is the website to get Pharmanex's Maine Omega: www.healthsuccess.nsedreams.com

    Cheers and Happy Health!
    J
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    Apr 05, 2009 6:35 PM GMT
    The problem with short-chain Omega 3 in flax, hemp, etc. is that it is not usable by the body as it is. It first has to be converted to the long-chain forms, and that process is very inefficient. That's why there's so much focus on fish oil, which contains the long-chain forms. A more effective Omega 3 product for vegans is DHA derived from marine algae. DHA is one of the long-chain forms and is immediately usable by the body. And, as I understand it, the body can make the other long-chain form, EPA, from DHA.

    http://www.devanutrition.com/vegan_DHA.html
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    Apr 05, 2009 6:44 PM GMT
    omega-3 fatty acids
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    Apr 05, 2009 6:56 PM GMT
    paradox saidThe problem with short-chain Omega 3 in flax, hemp, etc. is that it is not usable by the body as it is. It first has to be converted to the long-chain forms, and that process is very inefficient. That's why there's so much focus on fish oil, which contains the long-chain forms. A more effective Omega 3 product for vegans is DHA derived from marine algae. DHA is one of the long-chain forms and is immediately usable by the body. And, as I understand it, the body can make the other long-chain form, EPA, from DHA.

    http://www.devanutrition.com/vegan_DHA.html


    There are three Omega-3 fatty acids DHA, & EPA found mainly in fish. The third Omega-3 is ALA which is found in plants. DHA and EPA are the active forms. The body will convert ALA to DHA & EPA. The Omega-3 fatty acids reduce inflammation and are good for you. The other group are the Omega-6 fatty acids. These promote inflammation. When there is imbalance between Omega-6 and Omega-3, we get into problems. A healthy diet should consist of roughly 2 - 4 times more omega-6 fatty acids than omega-3 fatty acids. The typical American diet tends to contain 14 - 25 times more omega-6 fatty acids than omega-3 fatty acids, and many researchers believe this imbalance is a significant factor in the rising rate of inflammatory disorders in the United States. Omega-3 fatty acids have been shown to reduce inflammation and help prevent certain chronic diseases such as heart disease and arthritis. These essential fatty acids appear to be particularly important for cognitive and behavioral function as well as normal growth and development.
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    Apr 05, 2009 6:57 PM GMT
    paradox saidThe problem with short-chain Omega 3 in flax, hemp, etc. is that it is not usable by the body as it is. It first has to be converted to the long-chain forms, and that process is very inefficient. That's why there's so much focus on fish oil, which contains the long-chain forms. A more effective Omega 3 product for vegans is DHA derived from marine algae. DHA is one of the long-chain forms and is immediately usable by the body. And, as I understand it, the body can make the other long-chain form, EPA, from DHA.

    http://www.devanutrition.com/vegan_DHA.html


    What is your deal? I take great exception to you posting this. From anyone else I would be grateful.
    Why would YOU, above anyone, post something to do with Vegetarianism? You KILL animals for sport! icon_mad.gif You hunt them down and kill them.

    I apologise to everyone for going off on this. I really do. This will not turn into a "flame war."

    -Keith
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    Apr 05, 2009 6:59 PM GMT
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    paradox saidThe problem with short-chain Omega 3 in flax, hemp, etc. is that it is not usable by the body as it is. It first has to be converted to the long-chain forms, and that process is very inefficient. That's why there's so much focus on fish oil, which contains the long-chain forms. A more effective Omega 3 product for vegans is DHA derived from marine algae. DHA is one of the long-chain forms and is immediately usable by the body. And, as I understand it, the body can make the other long-chain form, EPA, from DHA.

    http://www.devanutrition.com/vegan_DHA.html


    What is your deal? I take great exception to you posting this. From anyone else I would be grateful.
    Why would YOU, above anyone, post something to do with Vegetarianism? You KILL animals for sport! icon_mad.gif You hunt them down and kill them.

    I apologise to everyone for going off on this. I really do. This will not turn into a "flame war."

    -Keith
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    Keith..check out my post from one minute before yours
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    Apr 05, 2009 7:00 PM GMT
    GNC makes fish oil chews. Tastes like orange starbursts. Sometimes I'm afraid I'll OD on fish oil chews there so good.
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    Apr 05, 2009 7:28 PM GMT
    kneedraggen saidFirst of all you need a fish oil verified by the US Pharmacopeia. This Federal government agency will test the product for safety.


    United States Pharmacopeia website saysUSP is a non-governmental, not-for-profit public health organization whose independent, volunteer experts work under strict conflict–of–interest rules to set its scientific standards.


    Not saying they don't do what they say, but not run by the government.

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    Apr 05, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
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    kneedraggen saidFirst of all you need a fish oil verified by the US Pharmacopeia. This Federal government agency will test the product for safety.


    United States Pharmacopeia website saysUSP is a non-governmental, not-for-profit public health organization whose independent, volunteer experts work under strict conflict–of–interest rules to set its scientific standards.


    Not saying they don't do what they say, but not run by the government.



    Thanks for the information. When I read about fish oil couple months ago the newsletter recommended that the oil be approved by the USP. The newsletter was from either Harvard or Hopkins. I subscribe to both. I just assumed it was part of the FDA that evaluated non prescription supplements.icon_redface.gif
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    Apr 05, 2009 7:56 PM GMT
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    paradox saidThe problem with short-chain Omega 3 in flax, hemp, etc. is that it is not usable by the body as it is. It first has to be converted to the long-chain forms, and that process is very inefficient. That's why there's so much focus on fish oil, which contains the long-chain forms. A more effective Omega 3 product for vegans is DHA derived from marine algae. DHA is one of the long-chain forms and is immediately usable by the body. And, as I understand it, the body can make the other long-chain form, EPA, from DHA.

    http://www.devanutrition.com/vegan_DHA.html


    What is your deal? I take great exception to you posting this. From anyone else I would be grateful.
    Why would YOU, above anyone, post something to do with Vegetarianism? You KILL animals for sport! icon_mad.gif You hunt them down and kill them.

    I apologise to everyone for going off on this. I really do. This will not turn into a "flame war."

    -Keith
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    It is my nature to post useful info when I can, regardless of who may read it. Your bizarre mental drama is not my concern. The fact that I am a hunter doesn't alter the reality that ALA is a very poor source of Omega 3 for the human physiology due to the fact that very little of it will actually be converted by the body into a usable form.