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    Apr 05, 2009 7:13 PM GMT
    Based on reports, we may now be within 1 vote of overriding the governor's veto of marriage equality in Vermont, and making Vermont the 4th state to have marriage equality. (A 2/3rds vote is needed to override.)

    Senate: 26 (yes) - 4 (no) - override nearly certain
    House: Passed 95 (yes) - 52 (no) - this is now very close

    Since the House vote
    - 1 more Republican, who was absent for that vote, said that he will vote YES
    - 2 Democrats who voted NO, will now vote YES on the override vote
    - The Speaker of the House (Democrat) who is not usually eligible vote, will vote YES on the override vote.

    If all 6 Republicans who voted yes, can stay strong and not give in to pressure, that means there are now 99 Yes votes. 100 are needed to override the veto.
    So............
    If you live in Vermont, or know anyone who lives in Vermont; family or friends - and if they support marriage equality, please ask them to contact their legislator today! If their legislator voted YES, thank them and ask that they vote to override the veto.
    If their legislator voted NO, please (and be polite) ask that they reconsider, and support the majority of the House and Senate, and the public, and support the override vote.
    If you do not live in Vermont, please DO NOT contact a legislator. Out of state contacts and pressure backfire and do more harm than good. If you want to help, give a donation to VERMONT FREEDOM TO MARRY.

    The override votes are probably going to happen on Tuesday.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 05, 2009 7:23 PM GMT
    I wish that I could help you out with your situation in Vermont. Unfortunately, I live in New York so I really do not have any say in your home state's political affairs. I will only wish all of the people of Vermont the very best which translates into a successful override of your governor's veto on marriage equality. I think your current governor needs a good dose of common sense on this bill. He is obviously dead wrong for caving in to the tiny but vocal conservative minority who wants to keep gay marriage out of Vermont state law.
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    Apr 06, 2009 4:25 AM GMT



    All we can offer is a little nail-bitin' for you, so we will.

    Hoping for the best , us
  • metta

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    Apr 06, 2009 5:33 AM GMT
    Thanks for the update. I'm sorry to say that I don't know anyone in Vermont. I have tried to let other people and web sites know as well so that the word can spread faster.
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    Apr 06, 2009 10:06 AM GMT
    Schedule as of now:
    Monday - Senate concurs with the House amendments - sends bill to governor
    - Governor vetoes the legislation
    Tuesday - Senate votes on override
    - House votes on override


  • metta

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    Apr 06, 2009 3:43 PM GMT
    Thanks again. Please keep us posted.


    Come On People, Contact Your Friends In VERMONT and tell them to contact their representative(s) in the House.

    http://www.leg.state.vt.us/


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont_House_of_Representatives



    http://www.leg.state.vt.us/speaker/
  • Rookz

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    Apr 06, 2009 3:48 PM GMT
    We have to support one another, we can not let this happen in Vermont how we got screwed here in California!
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    Apr 06, 2009 10:46 PM GMT
    Update as of Monday evening.

    Late Monday - Senate accepted the House amendments
    - sent the bill to governor
    - Governor immediately vetoed the legislation

    Tuesday about 9:00 AM - Senate will vote on an override
    about 10:30 AM - House will vote on an override
    Best guess: This will come down to 1 or possibly 2 votes in the House.

    I plan on being sitting in the House chamber during the vote. Will try to be in the Senate chamber also, if I can get a seat.

    Stay tuned for the national news tomorrow. I will post an update sometime late Monday.
  • metta

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    Apr 06, 2009 11:49 PM GMT


    The governor did his veto

    http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20090406/NEWS03/90406028


    May the Governor of Vermont get a bad case of bleeding hemorrhoids!
    And may they be as painful as the pain caused by his veto.
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    Apr 06, 2009 11:52 PM GMT
    It would probably be helpful if you were to list the folks who are considered on the fence, or voted "no" last time around.
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    Apr 07, 2009 11:03 AM GMT
    I do not know who is really on the fence. Those that voted NO (52 names) are available on multiple websites, including the Vermont Legislature's site. The 6 Republicans who voted YES are under a lot of pressure to switch.
    Heading to the State House in a bit. Hope to be in the chamber for the vote.
    Late news - the Speaker of the House might give up his position as speaker for the vote, so he can sit on the floor and cast a vote in favor (the person holding the Speaker's position is not normally eligible to vote).
    I do no think anyone knows how this will go in the House.
  • metta

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    Apr 07, 2009 3:36 PM GMT

    Queerty has a breakdown of possible flip votes.
    http://www.queerty.com/the-five-people-who-will-decide-vermont-marriage-20090407/


    [quote]
    Rep. Richard Howrigan

    A Democrat from Fairfield, Howrigan voted against the the marriage bill, but said that he has not made up his mind about the veto. Howrigan said that he would speak over the past weekend to his brother, who is gay, by phone about his decision.–Japhy Grant
    [/quote]

  • metta

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    Apr 07, 2009 3:41 PM GMT
    GAY MARRIAGE IN VERMONT!!!!


    http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20090407/NEWS03/90407016





    Veto override passes the house
    http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20090407/NEWS02/90407017/0/NEWS03

    Vermont Senate votes to override veto
    http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20090407/NEWS03/90407015/0/NEWS03