Caslon's Forum Fail Law #3

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    Apr 08, 2009 2:54 AM GMT
    Whereas repeatedly quoting a posting simply repeats the material over and over, and...

    Whereas repeating the same material over and over results in vastly enlongated indented posts, and...

    Whereas it is almost impossible to match up the statements with the indented author after a while.

    It is an automatic FAIL to just keep repeatedly quoting posting over and over without editing out the old material and only leaving the last response to go with your reply.

    WTF? ... You're just lazy losers... icon_rolleyes.gif

    For example:

    Blackguy4you said
    NNJfitandbi said
    Blackguy4you said
    NNJfitandbi said
    Blackguy4you said
    NNJfitandbi said
    Blackguy4you said
    NNJfitandbi said
    Blackguy4you said
    NNJfitandbi said
    phemt saidOne reason cheating is wrong is because is it unfair. By cheating you are allowing yourself to have sex with other people while the other person thinks he/she is playing by the orignal monogamist agreement. I can unstand an one time "accident", but to repeatively cheat and to know you will do so in future is out right WRONG! It Dosn't matter if you are bi, str8 or gay.Not only are you lying to your partner but you are playing double standards. Maybe your partner also has desires to have sex with other people, but has not acted on it because he/she is playing by the rules you orginally agreed on (i.e., monogamist relationship).


    This is exactly true. It is clear-headed and not hysterical. It doesn't make the claim that cheating is something that no sane person would do, or that to do so makes someone beneath the scum of the earth. Cheating is wrong, unfair, hurtful, all of those things. It risks emotional pain and is a breach of trust.

    So are many, many, many other things that people do in relationships. (Arguably, a spouse who cheats safely is endangering his spouse less than if he drinks and drives with her, or talks on a cell phone or texts while driving.) They are all wrong, terrible, hurtful. And yet people stay together despite them.

    My gripe with some of the posters here (and it's only some) is that they create this bogeyman and know nothing whatsoever of his circumstances. Marriage has barely existed in the gay world. As more and more gay people have married families with children, gay people will better understand what is wrong about cheating on a lawful spouse, just what a private violation it is, just how hurtful, just how awful. And just how human.

    But you can't -- you shouldn't -- just walk out on a marriage. So you have to deal with these things. And I'm just not prepared to say that anyone who commits adultery is beneath contempt. If true, then beneath contempt are a bunch of my friends, coworkers, relatives, etc. And me, too. And I'm telling you now, it means a bunch of everyone's friends, coworkers, relatives.

    What I think we have here, more than anything, is anger at bisexual men because for some people, they bring up issues, just like gay people bring up issues for homophobic men. For some reason, the sexuality of others can elicit very emotional responses in people, and turn ordinarily good people into self-righteous prigs.

    My contention: the reaction to bisexuality among some gays is of a piece with homophobia. Both are emotional, and not based on reason. They come from a primitive, self-defensive, fearful place within us.


    This is such a bunch of bull that I don't even know where to beginicon_exclaim.gif
    Let me say this - There is no excuse for cheatingicon_exclaim.gif None!


    Give me a break. Who is excusing cheating?


    You are! Read your posts!



    Not too carefully.


    Perhaps I wasn't clear enuff on my earlier post. So let me rephrase

    You are! Read your own posts and you will clearly see what I'm talking about about when I said you are attempting to justify cheating


    See, you miss the point again and again and again. Things are black and white to you. I'm not justifying anything. I'm trying to point out that there are contexts for things, and that it's really not anyone's business to judge a man based on imperfect behavior. I read a book once by a rabbi to who told a woman to have an extramarrital affair. I'm sure you would say she was "scum." She certainly was deceiving her husband. But guess what, if you looked at her situation compassionately, you could see why she did what she did, and with the rabbi's blessing.

    If he was cheating on you, I guess I could understand your anger. But he's not. And you sound like a fool to me.
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    Apr 08, 2009 5:44 AM GMT
    I Second Caslon's 3rd! icon_cool.gif

    Caslon be praised!
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    Apr 08, 2009 5:52 AM GMT
    Thank god someone brought this up, my eyes were bleeding.
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    Apr 08, 2009 5:55 AM GMT
    I automatically stop reading when I see posts like that. I'm glad someone brought this up.
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    Apr 08, 2009 6:39 AM GMT
    Caslon10000 saidWhereas repeatedly quoting a posting simply repeats the material over and over, and...

    Whereas repeating the same material over and over results in vastly enlongated indented posts, and...

    Whereas it is almost impossible to match up the statements with the indented author after a while.

    It is an automatic FAIL to just keep repeatedly quoting posting over and over without editing out the old material and only leaving the last response to go with your reply.

    WTF? ... You're just lazy losers... icon_rolleyes.gif

    For example:

    Blackguy4you said
    NNJfitandbi said
    Blackguy4you said
    NNJfitandbi said
    Blackguy4you said
    NNJfitandbi said
    Blackguy4you said
    NNJfitandbi said
    Blackguy4you said
    NNJfitandbi said
    phemt saidOne reason cheating is wrong is because is it unfair. By cheating you are allowing yourself to have sex with other people while the other person thinks he/she is playing by the orignal monogamist agreement. I can unstand an one time "accident", but to repeatively cheat and to know you will do so in future is out right WRONG! It Dosn't matter if you are bi, str8 or gay.Not only are you lying to your partner but you are playing double standards. Maybe your partner also has desires to have sex with other people, but has not acted on it because he/she is playing by the rules you orginally agreed on (i.e., monogamist relationship).


    This is exactly true. It is clear-headed and not hysterical. It doesn't make the claim that cheating is something that no sane person would do, or that to do so makes someone beneath the scum of the earth. Cheating is wrong, unfair, hurtful, all of those things. It risks emotional pain and is a breach of trust.

    So are many, many, many other things that people do in relationships. (Arguably, a spouse who cheats safely is endangering his spouse less than if he drinks and drives with her, or talks on a cell phone or texts while driving.) They are all wrong, terrible, hurtful. And yet people stay together despite them.

    My gripe with some of the posters here (and it's only some) is that they create this bogeyman and know nothing whatsoever of his circumstances. Marriage has barely existed in the gay world. As more and more gay people have married families with children, gay people will better understand what is wrong about cheating on a lawful spouse, just what a private violation it is, just how hurtful, just how awful. And just how human.

    But you can't -- you shouldn't -- just walk out on a marriage. So you have to deal with these things. And I'm just not prepared to say that anyone who commits adultery is beneath contempt. If true, then beneath contempt are a bunch of my friends, coworkers, relatives, etc. And me, too. And I'm telling you now, it means a bunch of everyone's friends, coworkers, relatives.

    What I think we have here, more than anything, is anger at bisexual men because for some people, they bring up issues, just like gay people bring up issues for homophobic men. For some reason, the sexuality of others can elicit very emotional responses in people, and turn ordinarily good people into self-righteous prigs.

    My contention: the reaction to bisexuality among some gays is of a piece with homophobia. Both are emotional, and not based on reason. They come from a primitive, self-defensive, fearful place within us.


    This is such a bunch of bull that I don't even know where to beginicon_exclaim.gif
    Let me say this - There is no excuse for cheatingicon_exclaim.gif None!


    Give me a break. Who is excusing cheating?


    You are! Read your posts!



    Not too carefully.


    Perhaps I wasn't clear enuff on my earlier post. So let me rephrase

    You are! Read your own posts and you will clearly see what I'm talking about about when I said you are attempting to justify cheating


    See, you miss the point again and again and again. Things are black and white to you. I'm not justifying anything. I'm trying to point out that there are contexts for things, and that it's really not anyone's business to judge a man based on imperfect behavior. I read a book once by a rabbi to who told a woman to have an extramarrital affair. I'm sure you would say she was "scum." She certainly was deceiving her husband. But guess what, if you looked at her situation compassionately, you could see why she did what she did, and with the rabbi's blessing.

    If he was cheating on you, I guess I could understand your anger. But he's not. And you sound like a fool to me.
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    Apr 08, 2009 6:55 AM GMT
    Yes.