Any tips for building a nice chest without supplements!

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    Apr 14, 2009 1:12 AM GMT
    So here is the thing guys.. I'm a skinny dude who really wants to build a nice hot chest.. However, my genetics and fast metabolism really work against me here, and I've tried all the creatine and protein shakes but they REALLY just make me sick dude (not to get into that).. So, aside from consuming 3000+ calories a day, do you guys have any tips on which exercises, besides just bench pressing, I should focus on to really target those muscles?

    Appreciate it
  • TexanMan82

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    Apr 14, 2009 2:02 AM GMT
    Seriously? Not to be rude, but that is a HUGE topic on here. Do a search of the forums and read some articles on this site.
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    Apr 14, 2009 2:13 AM GMT
    if you think 3000 calories a day is a lot...start looking at how much your body needs *before* you start working out.

    if you have a high metabolism, you'll need to eat a LOT. And do a search...there are a lot of things to do to build a chest.
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    Apr 14, 2009 2:16 AM GMT
    In-clines,,,,,,,,,,works for me...
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    Apr 14, 2009 2:51 AM GMT
    TexanMan82 saidSeriously? Not to be rude, but that is a HUGE topic on here. Do a search of the forums and read some articles on this site.


    Hey "TexanMan82"...I asked for tips tailored to a skinny guy, I didn't ask for your sarcasm man. Thanks
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    Apr 14, 2009 3:03 AM GMT
    GymNewbie23 said
    TexanMan82 saidSeriously? Not to be rude, but that is a HUGE topic on here. Do a search of the forums and read some articles on this site.


    Hey "TexanMan82"...I asked for tips tailored to a skinny guy, I didn't ask for your sarcasm man. Thanks


    There was no sarcasm present. It was matter of fact. You can find multiple threads dealing with chest workouts. T

    And no, thank you.
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    Apr 14, 2009 4:14 AM GMT
    GymNewbie23 saidSo here is the thing guys.. I'm a skinny dude who really wants to build a nice hot chest.. However, my genetics and fast metabolism really work against me here, and I've tried all the creatine and protein shakes but they REALLY just make me sick dude (not to get into that).. So, aside from consuming 3000+ calories a day, do you guys have any tips on which exercises, besides just bench pressing, I should focus on to really target those muscles?

    Appreciate it

    WOW a dip shit who doesn't want to eat but wants the body... yeah.. thats totally doable in some other dream..
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    Apr 14, 2009 4:43 AM GMT
    Alright.. some hunky.. all be it OLD member.. pointed out that maybe I was a bit cuntylicious..

    But my point stands

    You need to eat to gain muscle mass, any sort of muscle mass, lifting weights only stimulates the muscle fiber, but they wont grow when they have nothing available to build muscle with..

    You want a chest, hammer it hard and eat properly, your chest will grow..
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    Apr 14, 2009 4:53 AM GMT
    lilTanker saidAlright.. some hunky.. all be it OLD member.. pointed out that maybe I was a bit cuntylicious..

    But my point stands

    You need to eat to gain muscle mass, any sort of muscle mass, lifting weights only stimulates the muscle fiber, but they wont grow when they have nothing available to build muscle with..

    You want a chest, hammer it hard and eat properly, your chest will grow..


    What words of wisdom !

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    Apr 14, 2009 4:53 AM GMT
    he said he is consuming more than 3000 calories a day....did you not read that part lilTanker???


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    Apr 14, 2009 4:57 AM GMT
    sundayswim saidhe said he is consuming more than 3000 calories a day....did you not read that part lilTanker???


    GymNewbie23 saidSo, aside from consuming 3000+ calories a day, do you guys have any tips on which exercises

    it doesn't sound like hes consuming 3000 calories a day
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    Apr 14, 2009 5:04 AM GMT
    Make sure you're lifting legs hard at least once per week. Some muscle gain is due to microtrauma repair, but for the most part, weight gain is hormonal ... and your legs are your largest muscle group.

    Muscles + weight lifting = Growth Hormone

    Then eat carbs afterwards so the growth hormone gets converted into IGF-1 (Insulin-like Growth Factor) and you should gain mass, even in your chest. icon_twisted.gif

    Also, if protein messed up your stomach, see if it was Whey Protein CONCENTRATE. That seems to bug people more than Whey Protein Isolate, and Soy Protein Isolate seems to be the least troublesome (albeit the least effective).

    Hope that helps. icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 14, 2009 5:21 AM GMT
    Regarding which exercises are effective, I find the chest is fairly straight-forward to work. Keep it simple. I get good results with a flat bench press for mass (I prefer a smith press). I also include a dumbbell press, and a flat bench db fly. I finish up with dips. Just keep increasing your weight; there is no magic.

    Agree with FEyes that higher quality protein is easier to digest; you typically get what you pay for. Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold is a good choice. Just my opinion.
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    Apr 14, 2009 5:49 AM GMT
    All the guy had to do was look at the parent forum for a few more seconds, and he would have seen this thread called "Chest Workout"..

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/488713/

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    Apr 14, 2009 1:33 PM GMT
    xrichx saidAll the guy had to do was look at the parent forum for a few more seconds, and he would have seen this thread called "Chest Workout"..

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/488713/

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    Exactly....
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    Apr 14, 2009 1:38 PM GMT
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    USMmmm saidRegarding which exercises are effective, I find the chest is fairly straight-forward to work. Keep it simple. I get good results with a flat bench press for mass (I prefer a smith press). I also include a dumbbell press, and a flat bench db fly. I finish up with dips. Just keep increasing your weight; there is no magic.

    Agree with FEyes that higher quality protein is easier to digest; you typically get what you pay for. Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold is a good choice. Just my opinion.


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    Apr 14, 2009 1:51 PM GMT
    Alright, thanks to you guys that actually posted something constructive- I really appreciate it..

    As for the other ones, like "liltanker"....When someone posts a question, it is just that - simply a question. Meaning, if you have no intention of actually reading the post and answering constructively, then DONT. I have no interest in the "I'm trying to be a smart ass" comments.

    Thanks guys!
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    Apr 14, 2009 2:21 PM GMT
    Liltanker is right, though. Part of the problem with your question is that there is no single program that any of us can give you that will work for you. There are too many factors:

    How long have you been working out?
    Do you train at home or at a gym? What equipment do you have available?
    What chest exercises do you do now?
    Are you increasing weights every workout?
    How tall are you?
    Do you have problems performing any exercises?
    What is your basal metabolic rate? (this references something ncsucarjock and liltanker said upthread)
    How many calories are you taking in every day?
    How much protein, carbs, and fat?
    Are you taking any supplements?
    etc, etc...

    A good trainer will get this information before prescribing a program. Without it, all you can get here is whatever works for the poster, or whatever they think works, or what they overheard at the gym, or what they read online. All pretty generic, and generic information is available in a matter of milliseconds from your favorite search engine.

    For me, I do a full body workout three times per week - which means for chest, all I have time for are big compound movements. My chest routine consists of two sets of incline press on the bench or Hammer machine, and one to two sets of flat press on either the Hammer or Nautilus machines. Google hypertrophy-specific training. I take creatine every day, and a good post-workout protein/carb shake immediately after training. Sometimes during. I also get extra protein from liquid egg whites. Drink it straight out of the carton. When I get up in the middle of the night to pee, I'll chug some down. With this I have added about two inches to my chest in three months.