1/3 of American football players have had "sexual relations" with other men

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    Oct 31, 2007 5:14 PM GMT
    This came in through one of our writers. Thought people might be interested in this study out of the University of Bath:

    http://www.physorg.com/news112885096.html

    "A study of former high-school American Football players has found that more than a third said they had had sexual relations with other men. In his study of homosexuality among sportsmen in the US, sociologist Dr Eric Anderson found that 19 in a sample of 47 had taken part in acts intended to sexually arouse other men, ranging from kissing to mutual masturbation and
    oral sex.

    The 47 men, aged 18-23, were all American Football players who previously played at the high school (secondary school) level but had failed to be
    picked for their university’s team and were now cheerleaders instead. They were at various universities from the American south, Mid-West, west and north west..."
  • jc_online

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    Oct 31, 2007 5:25 PM GMT
    Good information - and good to know this decrease in homophobia is happening. Too bad I went to college about 20 years too early to be a part of it!
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    Oct 31, 2007 6:20 PM GMT
    19 out of 47? Sounds reliable.
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    Oct 31, 2007 7:11 PM GMT
    Didn't surprise me very much in this day and age, but in my own day and age in the early 80s, it would have probably killed me...icon_neutral.gif
  • asupas

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    Oct 31, 2007 7:13 PM GMT
    Sample size is kind of small. Plus, they are surveying male cheer leaders. Finding gay guys in a group of male cheerleaders is like shooting fish in a barrel.

    but still interesting.
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    Oct 31, 2007 7:15 PM GMT
    Chuckle - what that article failed to mention was that coach gumbys sample wasn't just ex football players - specifically it was ex HS football players who weren't good enough to be picked up by their college squad and had switched to cheerleading.

    So you have basically '1/3 of male college cheerleaders who used to play HS football' who admitted to having same sex relations.

    icon_lol.gif A slightly different group.

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    Oct 31, 2007 7:33 PM GMT
    And there is nothing to say about homophobia. These people have 'admitted' to a researcher in a manner that makes them unidentifiable.

    I think the culture does not seem to have changed. That gay footballers exist should surprise noone.
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    Oct 31, 2007 7:48 PM GMT
    Hey, don't diss the cheerleaders!
  • asupas

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    Oct 31, 2007 7:53 PM GMT
    redhead - I wouldn't dare! Actually, I think the uniforms are hot. icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 31, 2007 10:53 PM GMT
    though it's a good point. Too many variables not covered by this study to give it any credibility for anything.

    Plus it's not like they haven't been having sex with dudes on the side since the beginning of the game. It's just few people every admitted it because of the silent code bs.
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    Oct 31, 2007 11:05 PM GMT
    What this tells me is that our recruiting efforts are on the decline. We should not rest until all men are having sex with other men. 1/3 is hardly something of which we can be proud. Somebody's not pulling his weight.
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    Nov 01, 2007 12:35 AM GMT
    The sample size is way too small.
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    Nov 01, 2007 12:46 AM GMT
    47 guys who went out for collegiate football, but ended up as cheerleaders instead? That's got to be pretty much all of them.
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    Nov 01, 2007 1:30 AM GMT
    where were they when i was in college
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    Nov 01, 2007 2:16 AM GMT
    I have to question why the sample was only taken from ex-football players who didn't make the college team and became cheerleaders instead? That doesn't really say much about homosexuality among sportsman in the US. The study with that sort of criteria, unless there is some explanation for it I am missing, seems to indulge in stereotyping and homophobia.
  • dfrourke

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    Nov 01, 2007 2:33 AM GMT
    This is CRAP!...oh wait...I have an incriminating picture of me in a football uniform from high school on my profile...

    ...guess I should remove that first before responding!...

    - David
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    Nov 01, 2007 3:34 AM GMT
    Coach Gumby was working with male cheerleaders.

    He found that many of them had played football in HS, but were not good enough for their college squads.

    He surveyed the subset of kids he was already working with.

    No, it wasn't great methodology if you were looking to prove a larger relationship. But I'm not sure proving a larger relationship was what he wanted to do anyway.

    I think it has been blown way out of proportion by the media for the sensationalism.

    No, I don't yet know why Eric did it that way; I haven't had time to more than glance at the study.
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    Nov 01, 2007 6:11 AM GMT
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    Nov 01, 2007 6:40 AM GMT
    As much as I believe that there are a number of football players who have engaged in "male to male contact" I find this study a bit suspcious for the following:

    a) like a number of guys have mentioned, the sample size is too small.

    b) And sorry to be narrow minded but most guys I know who didn't get picked for college football did not do cheerleading. They either picked up another sport such as baseball or did something else. And really though, what potential footballer is gonna end up doing cheerleading? And why was the sample of only guys who only ended up doing cheerleading?

    Just like what nudewoody said, it indirectly implies a stereotype that guys who do cheerleading are more likely gay.

    And lol@nudewoody...I've seen that before
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    Nov 01, 2007 9:13 AM GMT
    Save the cheerleader, save the world.
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    Nov 01, 2007 9:48 AM GMT
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  • Salubrious

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    Nov 01, 2007 9:53 AM GMT
    I agree with McGay; we definitely need to step up the recruiting. Perhaps if we offer them gamecube and natty ice we could get some more...
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    Nov 01, 2007 11:23 AM GMT
    somehow i don't think i would have become a cheerleader if i wasn't good enough for the team.

    there was an documentary on brit tv about a small town rugby team recently which showed the team socialising after the match. every weekend they dress up in the team blazer and tie and go on a pub crawl. as they get drunker and drunker they strip naked, snog eachother and play with eachothers' genitals, all lead by their captain who had a particularly long penis (i'm sure it's on youtube somewhere). their intense bond can not be broken by the female attention they encounter on the rampage. they are simply not interested. they all consider themselves straight but think there is nothing wrong with a bit of quote 'boy on boy' action.

    interestingly, the team were shown the video at a later date and they all had a good laugh at it and weren't all that embarrassed by their antics.

    my straight colleagues tell me rugby teams are famous for this type of behaviour.
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    Nov 01, 2007 1:10 PM GMT
    I nearly made my conversion quota for October. Damn, I want that toaster! Anybody make their goal (get it? footbal thread - goal HAHA).
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    Nov 01, 2007 2:14 PM GMT
    icon_twisted.gif Damn it McGay,

    Its getting harder and harder to recruit out there.

    Seems like all of a sudden other recruiters are grabbing all the easy republicans and evangelicals.

    I was so desperate I almost made a play for a liberal democrat last month but Barney Frank beat me to it.

    I'm worried about making quota for next year - it is an election year after all - any advice?

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