Why do we do this?

  • HotCoach

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    Apr 16, 2009 12:59 AM GMT
    It's is a recognized fact in the fashion industry that women "dress" for other women.
    So for whom do guys, str8 and gay, try to make their bodies more appealing, intimidating, impressive, etc.?
    Think hard about this one. It's not as self evident as it seems.

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    Apr 16, 2009 1:06 AM GMT
    personally, I dress for me, but, I know that I'm really weird like that, I wear clothing that makes me happy, I've an orange tshirt thats got a little cow on it that I love wearing cause it makes me happy.. my mates have banned me wearing it around them because they can't stand seeing me in orange and in that mood hahaha

    Fashion be damned.. besides.. that hair style, ya know japanese animay stuff.. guys look like they are wearing freaking wigs unless they have the face for it and most guys.. DON"T have the face for it and OMG Don't get me started on this low cut tshirt shit guys are wearing.. we don't have cleavage as much as some men are trying.. and ya know I'd be more then happy for people to wear it if thats what they watned.. but they are just being sheep.......

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  • HotCoach

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    Apr 16, 2009 1:46 AM GMT
    I wear what I want for myself also. But I work out to show myself off both to men, primarily, and women too.

    How about you?
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    Apr 16, 2009 2:08 AM GMT
    I dress for moi! Most people that know me would say I dress much more conservatively than I am in personality. I like more conservative clothes - end of story. I don't dress to appeal to other guys...I want somebody that wants me, not a look!
  • HotCoach

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    Apr 16, 2009 2:47 AM GMT
    not asking about fucking clothes but why you "build your body!
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    Apr 16, 2009 2:52 AM GMT
    EXCUSSSSEEE US!
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    Apr 16, 2009 3:04 AM GMT
    HotCoach saidnot asking about fucking clothes but why you "build your body!

    WOW Someones PMSing..

    When I first started at the gym.. I wanted the body.. now I dont care about that, I thought getting a hot body would make me happy and maybe help me handle my depression better.. but I got a rude shock

    It helped me handle my depression better ie, I rarely am depressed anymore and now that I'm almost perpetually happy I don't care about the body.. I'm just happy, if some guy doesn't like me cause I don't fit some profile of his hot.. I honestly don't care..

    OOOH yeah, I suffer from depression heh, not just depressed.. well.. I was but not anymore icon_biggrin.gif
  • DrobUA

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    Apr 16, 2009 3:12 AM GMT
    I do it for self esteem in general. I think that is the reason most people do it. I'm not trying to impress anyone but I wanna feel good about myself.
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    Apr 16, 2009 2:09 PM GMT
    DrobUA saidI do it for self esteem in general. I think that is the reason most people do it. I'm not trying to impress anyone but I wanna feel good about myself.


    Ah, but.....there's the key. What makes you feel good about yourself? The knowledge that you're physically healthy? The validation from others that you look good? And what sort of validation? The envy of guys with 'lesser' bodies, or the recognition (respect, even) of those with 'better' ones? The sexual admiration of men (or of women)?


    Hmmm.....sorry....I'm thinking too hard lately. I need to stop that before I pontificate us all to death.
  • TexanMan82

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    Apr 16, 2009 2:15 PM GMT
    I like to look good. We all do. When it comes to clothes, sure, I dress for myself. But, all of us still like to impress other people. It's just the way we are. It's great to not care what other people think, but we still do to a point.
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    Apr 16, 2009 2:18 PM GMT
    If I am being honest, I workout for two reasons:

    1. To keep myself health. Insurance costs are ridiculous even with companies ponying up.

    2. To maybe, possible get a date? Who am I really kidding if I think that the shape I was in 3 months ago would get me a date with the type of guy that I like physically? Really, lets just be honest.

    I am sure there are guys who do it for themselves and are reward with the looks, catcalls, bodybuilding awards and trophies. Deep down, if we are honest, yea, we do it for the accolades(sp) too.
  • CAtoFL

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    Apr 16, 2009 2:19 PM GMT
    I'm a bad fag. I have no fashion sense. The other night, I went out to pick up a part for my bike and friends called me on my cell so I met them for dinner. A guy there (who works for Ralph Lauren) thought I was making a trendy fashion statement by wearing Wranglers with Sperry Topsiders. In fact, I'd given zero thought to what I threw on - I was going to pick up my bike seat!

    Fashion is too random and fleeting for me to pay attention to.
  • DiverScience

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    Apr 16, 2009 2:20 PM GMT
    I workout because I feel like crap if I don't, physically. It moderates my mood and keeps my joints and spine functioning and my nerves from being pinched. I workout because i like to be able to do stuff, and move stuff when I want it moved.
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    Apr 16, 2009 2:23 PM GMT
    In more formal settings I dress for both men & women. I'm trying to impress men foremost, but also women, because their opinion also counts. When I go into most social functions, both men & women are present. I don't want a bad review from either.

    For that reason, when I shop for clothes I prefer a female salesperson. I provide the male input myself, while she provides the female. Plus women tend to have a better color sense than men, including gay yours-truly.

    When it come to casual daily crap, of course, I dress for the gay hangouts, but that's neither fashion nor style. I just try to look like everyone else, and to hell with fashion & style.
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    Apr 16, 2009 2:30 PM GMT
    I have always been lucky - tall, healthy, happy, with a lot of friends - and I try to pack some fun into every single day - along with all kinds of productivity. I try to stay healthy - work out - eat right - look good - because all these things help me feel great. I'm not really seeking any sort of validation from others - I know when I look and feel my best. I am egocentric and I admit it.
  • Timbales

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    Apr 16, 2009 2:32 PM GMT
    I dress in a way that I think is flattering to me and how I feel comfortable. I do dress for the situation/occasion when it's expected - like work. I am boring dresser and freely admit it.
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    Apr 16, 2009 3:16 PM GMT
    I'm making a guy who will let me perv on his muscles. When that motivation falters, I keep going because of the anti-depressant value. Working out makes me feel good.
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    Apr 16, 2009 3:21 PM GMT
    I started working out to make myself look better, but it had the side effect of making me feel better, perform better at roller derby...oh yeah, and it's killed the urge to smoke icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 16, 2009 3:21 PM GMT
    I don't think alot of women behave that way nowdays. Maybe in L.A. I think I dress for other men because guys can really rag on your outfits too. I just try to dress as if I'm gonna bump into my worst enemy. Well sometimes I know that enemy is out of town lol
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    Apr 16, 2009 3:24 PM GMT
    I personally work out for myself and my partner. I am not out to attract other people. Also I work out for health purposes. I have a family history of heart attacks and strokes. So it is also to prevent future problems.
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    Apr 16, 2009 3:29 PM GMT
    I dress for me. You get lots of confidence and power when you know you look like all of that........and a simple fashion tip for the uninitiated....take some chances and break out of your regular look. Its boring. Ask a few friends and try something different. Get out of your comfort zone.

    Dressing confidently and creatively is not the exclusive domain of fashion divas. Anybody has the potential to enjoy this freedom without the trappings of being a fashion victim.
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    Apr 16, 2009 3:33 PM GMT
    I thought woman dressed to impress and to be noticed in general. I didn't think they dressed for other women specifically. How is it a fact?

    In any case I dress what for me, what I feel good in and what I can afford. It's practical and very coinveinent for me.
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    Apr 19, 2009 5:38 PM GMT
    HotCoach saidnot asking about fucking clothes but why you "build your body!


    Well, my answer still fits: I don't think of who I will appeal to when working out. I know the body I want, and will damned if I don't get it. I want a nice slender shape, with just enough definition to show that I put myself into a healthy lifestyle daily. I don't want bulging muscles, even if that's what other guys want to see. I just want what I haven't had my entire life and any guy that would presume I'd be doing it for him should just walk away, very slowly, and should not turn is back to me...icon_evil.gif
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    Apr 19, 2009 6:05 PM GMT
    I was looking forward to this topic.

    And as expected not disappointed. Quite a bunch of liars icon_biggrin.gif

    Admit it guysicon_exclaim.gif We work out to be healthy?!?!? Hell not!!!!! That's what we tell ourselves!!!!!!!! Perchance if we repeat that lie enough, we would come to believe it!

    It is pure vanity that we do it! We think we look good, we think people think we look good, we feel good about our look, so we work out. And in a circle it goes.
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  • Rookz

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    Apr 19, 2009 6:21 PM GMT
    Here's a link of the same topic:

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/16090/

    Without the attitude from the original poster, of course.