Oral sex question

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    Nov 01, 2007 1:09 AM GMT
    Hey all,
    just wondering how many of you use protection for oral sex? I know it has it's risk, but just kinda weird to use condom for oral sex. what's your take?
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    Nov 01, 2007 7:49 PM GMT
    It's entirely un-American.
  • jc_online

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    Nov 01, 2007 8:30 PM GMT
    I used to do HIV prevention education, and I can tell you most people (men and women) don't use condoms when giving a blowjob. And you're right - there is an associated risk - not just HIV (very small risk here) but other STD/STIs.

    I always thought (as I said in another thread that I killed) I think the problem is the flavors they come up with - banana, chocolate, mint, etc...

    If condoms came in manly flavors, I think I would be more tempted to use them for oral sex. Flavors like "just showered penis" "just worked out sweaty penis" "leaking precum sweetness flavor" etc. Watcha think?
  • Squarejaw

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    Nov 02, 2007 12:20 AM GMT
    No.
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    Nov 02, 2007 6:42 PM GMT
    jc_onlineIf condoms came in manly flavors, I think I would be more tempted to use them for oral sex. Flavors like "just showered penis" "just worked out sweaty penis" "leaking precum sweetness flavor" etc. Watcha think?


    Now that's a condom I could definitely wrap my lips around.
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    Nov 03, 2007 6:16 AM GMT
    i just cant understand the pleasure in suckin a dick that has been wraped in plastic, i just feel that if you are putting yourself in that position with another person, hopefully you know that person well enough that you wont have to worry about it, and i know many ppl hook up, but i my opinion if you want real good sex find someone you care about and just have a bunch of really good sex with them and not worry about stds instead of have ok sex with a random guy and find out 2 weeks later that your ass is oozing with nazty discharge.
  • zakariahzol

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    Nov 03, 2007 10:02 PM GMT
    I will refrain myself from the high risk condomless anal sex. But for the less risky oral sex, I guess I just gonna take that risk. I prefer skin to skin oral sex, rimming and etc. I reduce my risk but not willing to reduce the pleasure.
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    Nov 04, 2007 1:31 AM GMT
    ya, maybe one day we'll have to kiss with plastic wrap in between!!...
    I wonder is there a way to tell if someone has STD?
  • liftordie

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    Nov 06, 2007 6:02 AM GMT
    oral sex with a condom is like eating a steak with a balloon over your tongue....yeah u know u have meat in your mouth but if you cant taste it then why bother?!?!
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    Nov 06, 2007 6:54 AM GMT
    an odd--and yet descriptive--analogy
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    Nov 06, 2007 9:25 PM GMT
    I wish I had because that is probably how I got HIV (I did not engage much in anal sex and never without a condom). You have to decide how much risk you want to take and how important the sex is to you. Is it in a relationship, a one night stand, a bathhouse? If you are in a relationship and you are both negative and are willing to be monogamous then the risk is much less. Picking up a guy in a bar is more risky, and bathhouses are probably the riskiest due to the laws of probability (a lot of people in bathhouses go there frequently and have had many sexual partners).

    There are certain precautions you can take to reduce the risk. Do not brush your teeth within 1 hour of having oral sex, you could open up tiny cuts in your gums which will allow the virus to enter. Rinse your mouth out with salt water or listerine, if you feel a strong stinging sensation you could have cuts you did not know about (e.g. on your tongue or in your throat). Remember pre-cum has just as much if not more HIV than cum, so not allowing the guy to cum in your mouth is no guarantee of protection.

    If the guy says he is HIV- don't believe him, he may have been tested 3 months ago was negative then, but been infected two weeks ago. A significant number of people who are HIV+ do not know it.

    I have learned one important lesson in life, it is easier to live without sex then it is to live with HIV!
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    Nov 08, 2007 1:28 AM GMT
    I always thought maybe oral sex without cum is safer then any other act of sex. Now i feel anal with condom seem better idea then oral sex...
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    Nov 08, 2007 5:07 PM GMT
    You may be right if you have cuts in your mouth. Go to websites that deal with HIV and it is amazing the number of people that suspect they got HIV from unprotected oral sex, a bit of a dirty secret in the gay world.
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    Nov 10, 2007 6:26 AM GMT
    Geez, jbedwards....way to scare a guy. And i thought i was safe all this time.

    I think if you are seeing a guy you can become reasonably sure you won't get AIDS from sucking his dick if you simply ask him to test for you. Now he may come back and lie about it , but most guys won't do that. I've gone and gotten tested a couple times on request. I have no issue with it. As far as trusting the results...well, if you engage in the same kinds of sex with the same kinds of people and never switch it up...you can probably trust that if you go several times testing negative if you test once every six months, that you can probably trust your results three months in.

    Then again, you can only be sure about this if you ask a guy lots of questions and can trust the answers.Which means you need to get to know them. So naturally, if you are gonna suck a stranger in their car on PRIDE night....i'd suggest you wrap it up. You ain't never gonna see him again anyway. And you've got sure clean dick waiting in your address book, lol
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    Nov 10, 2007 4:51 PM GMT
    well, u r assuming your friends in the book are as careful as u r since last time u saw him.
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    Nov 10, 2007 6:35 PM GMT
    I've known them a while. I've participated with them for a while and keep testing negative so yes, there are guys in my address book that i KNOW are as safe as i am just based on my past interactions with them.When dealing with people in a sexual context, you can minimize your risk to very very small even, but you can NEVER eliminate your risk entirely.Unless you want to give up sex all together.
    You're gonna suck cock...you just are, but honey, don't be a nervous wreck all the time. You are most likely fine and as long as you follow some of the advice you've gotten from this thread.....some of it is good advice.
    Mine in particular, build a circle of friends...your friends WILL not lie to you about getting tested or even being POS. All the names in my address book are names of friends.
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    Nov 10, 2007 7:14 PM GMT
    boy I hear taht friendhsip with benefit all the time. but never know how to make it work. i think its a fine art in itself to find such friend.
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    Dec 11, 2007 1:33 AM GMT
    The risk of contracting HIV through oral sex is almost zero. (Source: eMedicine and Emergency Physician Consultation) Provided there was no blood contact.

    You would have to aspirate the HIV+ ejacuate into your lungs for it to come into direct contact with your blood stream.

    Most people feel the risk is minuscule to use protection during oral sex. That's up to you to decide.

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    Dec 11, 2007 11:39 AM GMT
    Not according to safer sex guides provided by HIV prevention websites it isn't. Pre-cum entering a cut in the mouth or throat is a good way to get it. I certainly never aspirated cum into the lungs! I never even let somebody cum in my mouth.

    For several years now articles have been appearing suggesting that what used to be very low risk is now considered riskier then initially thought. Reading "The Body" website you will come across people like myself who are pretty confident they got infected from unprotected oral sex.
  • Tyinstl

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    Dec 16, 2007 9:00 AM GMT
    Well that's demoralizing. How am I going to live without unprotected oral sex with hot dudes i don't really know?

    I'm not getting out of bed tomorrow morning.
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    Dec 17, 2007 10:15 PM GMT
    Do your research and minimize your risks. You can still have unprotected oral sex, just don't think it is zero risk because it is not. The most important thing to remember is sores and cuts in the mouth (including tongue and throat) are potentially bad news. Also "deep-throating" can be potentially more dangerous.

    If you meet a great guy and you both test HIV-, then you can have all the unprotected oral you want (as long as you are both monogamous).
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    Dec 18, 2007 2:06 AM GMT
    jbedwards thank you for putting it out like it is. people should be aware that giving/receiving oral sex is a risk factor for HIV. sure oral sex with condoms is not as good nobody wants that, but would you rather minimize some enjoyment and be safe, or live a difficult life with HIV or other diseases?
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    Dec 18, 2007 4:02 AM GMT
    Xpreso saidi just cant understand the pleasure in suckin a dick that has been wraped in plastic, i just feel that if you are putting yourself in that position with another person, hopefully you know that person well enough that you wont have to worry about it, and i know many ppl hook up, but i my opinion if you want real good sex find someone you care about and just have a bunch of really good sex with them and not worry about stds instead of have ok sex with a random guy and find out 2 weeks later that your ass is oozing with nazty discharge.


    i agree with you 100% that is how i live my life
  • zakariahzol

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    Dec 18, 2007 3:08 PM GMT
    I think there another thread about this topic . Anyway after that thread I have refrain myself (with so much difficulty and self control) to perform condomless oral sex. However , what I do now is to bring in my wallet a piece of condom that I will insist on any sexual partner to put on . Then I start sucking dick. Really now with the risk of getting infected pretty much nearly to zero. I find performing oral so much pleasurable, fun and exciting. I can go on for hour without worry of catching anything . Lately I been mastubating with condom on , to familiarize myself with it (the last time my ideas of safe sex is not doing anal at all). It just a matter of a liitle adjustment guys. I prefer to have sex with a lot of guys , stranger , and multiple partner. So safe sex is vital for me to protect myself. Sex is only good when you are not nervous so you can really let go of your self. I promise him a good bj, but he have to put the rubber on.
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    Dec 18, 2007 3:22 PM GMT
    Believe it or not I prefer being given a blowjob with a condom on. After too much attention my "friend" becomes too sensitive and starts to hurt! I think I am unusual though.