Gay A-List Actors "To be or not to be..."

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    Apr 17, 2009 4:48 PM GMT
    Most of us have fantasized about a hot actor, and even fancied the idea he may be gay or at least bi icon_lol.gif. My question geared specifically regarding A-List actors is: Do you think they would’ve had success if they were openly gay? I don’t want this to turn into a form of who you think is “gay”, but basically questions whether someone such as Brad Pitt or Al Pacino would be equally successful if they were BOTH gay and open about iticon_rolleyes.gificon_question.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 17, 2009 9:19 PM GMT
    I find it amusing the left wing Hollywood is still extremely homophobic!

    But in most things it's diffrent for a women to come out and be accepted,than a male is. Yet for a women to come out and be accepted does not transfer over to men.

    So I would have to say no. Hollywood and America are not ready for this yet.
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    Apr 17, 2009 9:31 PM GMT
    A str8 actor portraying a gay man is genius.

    A gay actor playing a str8 man...not so much.

    OTOH there's Eric McCormick.
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    Apr 17, 2009 9:32 PM GMT
    don't forget the critical acclaim Neil Patrick Harris (gay gay gay) has received for the character, Barney Stinson (str8 str8 str8 he plays on CBS's "How I Met Your Mother."
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    Apr 17, 2009 9:42 PM GMT
    COJock1974 saiddon't forget the critical acclaim Neil Patrick Harris (gay gay gay) has received for the character, Barney Stinson (str8 str8 stricon_cool.gif he plays on CBS's "How I Met Your Mother."


    But don't forget he came out after the acclaim and probably deserves the accolades. Had he been openly gay when the series started would he have received it? Would he been given the role as an openly gay actor? I would like to think so but given the industry I doubt it. Hopefully that will change very soon.
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    Apr 17, 2009 9:46 PM GMT
    I totally hear you on that .. maybe I'm hoping that the "industry" will see that a gay dude can totally play a convincing straight dude, led by Harris' example ... and then it just won't be that big of a deal. Cast the right actor for the right character.
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    Apr 17, 2009 9:52 PM GMT
    Given that we have been playing straight characters for years one would think it would be a no brainer but there is still the impression that being gay will be the kiss of death at the box office. Still hope for the change to come. If more of the A listers would actually come out it might help. Good thing is, it will change eventually.

  • Apr 17, 2009 10:02 PM GMT
    It is sad that most actors can not come out even though I am sure a lot of them are gay. It would be a bad career move because of typecasting. If the public knows they are gay they have a specific mindset and would never think they could play a strait character. So, this unfortunate circumstance is not the actors fault or Hollywood's but the audience's fault all over the world.
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    Apr 17, 2009 10:04 PM GMT
    It seems once an actor comes out.....that is it as far as any chance of playing a major straight role. It is sad but in some ways I can certainly see why actors would try to stay in the closet.

    For a straight guy to play a gay guy, well.....that is fashionable. Kind of sucks.
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    Apr 17, 2009 10:06 PM GMT
    I don't think A-list male actors would be as successful in their careers if they were openly gay. It's unfortunate, but looking at it from a business marketing point of view they would not be as easily assessable as fantasies for either straight or gay audiences.

    Actors are not just talent....they are products. Look at the way they're seen in the media...fashion magazines, paparazzi news....whatever Tigerbeat is... Why else have PR reps and spin doctors? Why else would they have to do press junkets? They are not just the characters in their movies..they are an image. They are the frontmen for their machine.

    As products they have to be marketed to the right people using the right allure. It's a matter of making money.

    Celebrity actors lose their lives to the public and must generally appease them to keep their popularity, to keep their flow of income. Sometimes it means selling out....especially if they're niche market is playing romantic leads. It's one thing to play the charming sidekick/ best friend/ character actor, but quite another to fake the hetero-funk seducing women when everyone knows they wouldn't do that otherwise. (Romantic Powerhouse movies...I'm not talking about Barney from How I Met Your Mother....who does a superb job)

    If they were gay and "out", actors like Brad Pitt would lose their boyish/ jock-ish charm their fans fell in love with and actors like Al Pacino would lose that respect they garnered from playing such powerful and sometimes menacing characters. Would straight men worship Tony Montana as much as they do if they found out that he liked sucking dick and taking it up the butt? Seriously?
    The illusion would be broken and their fans would look elsewhere to complete their fantasies.

    It sucks

    Until society changes its mind about how people are viewed and judged....these A-list actors will have to remain produced dreams for their fans. They will have to continue living up to unrealistic expectations and cuckoo desires.

    It makes me sad.

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    Apr 17, 2009 10:09 PM GMT
    Sadly I don't think it would work either. The "industry" isn't so much homophobic (though some exists) as it is profit-conscious, and a lot of films make more overseas than in the US. A lot of the world is truly homophobic.
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    Apr 17, 2009 10:29 PM GMT
    not until he reaches the status of hmmm, let's say ryan reynolds, at that stage they can produce their own stuff and not worry about typecasting hopefully. but, that will come with the cut in sallary, and that's what's stopping these "actors" from coming out, which just means that they are not actors but "companies", and what they do is not acting but making sure that their agent gets paid.
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    Apr 17, 2009 10:30 PM GMT
    BrianE88 saidquestions whether someone such as Brad Pitt or Al Pacino would be equally successful if they were BOTH gay and open about iticon_rolleyes.gificon_question.gificon_rolleyes.gif

    No. icon_sad.gif
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    Apr 19, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
    antelope saidSadly I don't think it would work either. The "industry" isn't so much homophobic (though some exists) as it is profit-conscious, and a lot of films make more overseas than in the US. A lot of the world is truly homophobic.


    This is a great point. Although I still think it has a lot to do with American audiences as well.
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    Apr 19, 2009 3:58 AM GMT
    Tangtastic saidI don't think A-list male actors would be as successful in their careers if they were openly gay. It's unfortunate, but looking at it from a business marketing point of view they would not be as easily assessable as fantasies for either straight or gay audiences.

    Actors are not just talent....they are products. Look at the way they're seen in the media...fashion magazines, paparazzi news....whatever Tigerbeat is... Why else have PR reps and spin doctors? Why else would they have to do press junkets? They are not just the characters in their movies..they are an image. They are the frontmen for their machine.

    As products they have to be marketed to the right people using the right allure. It's a matter of making money.

    Celebrity actors lose their lives to the public and must generally appease them to keep their popularity, to keep their flow of income. Sometimes it means selling out....especially if they're niche market is playing romantic leads. It's one thing to play the charming sidekick/ best friend/ character actor, but quite another to fake the hetero-funk seducing women when everyone knows they wouldn't do that otherwise. (Romantic Powerhouse movies...I'm not talking about Barney from How I Met Your Mother....who does a superb job)

    If they were gay and "out", actors like Brad Pitt would lose their boyish/ jock-ish charm their fans fell in love with and actors like Al Pacino would lose that respect they garnered from playing such powerful and sometimes menacing characters. Would straight men worship Tony Montana as much as they do if they found out that he liked sucking dick and taking it up the butt? Seriously?
    The illusion would be broken and their fans would look elsewhere to complete their fantasies.

    It sucks

    Until society changes its mind about how people are viewed and judged....these A-list actors will have to remain produced dreams for their fans. They will have to continue living up to unrealistic expectations and cuckoo desires.

    It makes me sad.

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    You put alot of thought into your answer (Thanks). I think you hit the root cause an actor in the acting business = product. Plus our country (USA) being based on Christian values and with a decent amount of homophobic individuals it wouldn't be the best marketing decision for an actor to be openly gay. This is sad, but true.