Moving without a job - losing your head or sometimes the right move?

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    Apr 18, 2009 3:35 PM GMT
    So I'm in a quandry and wondering if the thoughts I'm thinking are similar (or possible actions) to what anyone has gone through.

    Been out of full-time work for about a year - laid off in '08, been getting unemployment, working part-time jobs here and there, but not extremely happy with the work I've been getting or the situation I'm in. Got into a couple grad schools, but after having a TA position dangled at one school, had it pulled (budgetary) and the cost is, well, fairly high; I can get loans, but I'm not sure if the job I'd get coming out would justify what I have in debt.

    I'm not content in the city I currently live in. A number of people (and businesses) tell me just to move to another city, to where I want to live - that most businesses now aren't looking to move people from other places, and being in a town makes it easier, etc.

    Yes, getting out and trying on a different city would be exhilarating, and I'm debt-free (finally) and somewhat financially stable, but I know it is risky - if you don't find work soon it can be financially draining, and even if business contacts talk to you before you move it's no guarantee you'll get a position. But has anyone ever done this, or has thoughts on it? I'm 31, and this seems like something someone would do in their mid 20's, but I'm stagnating in the city/position I'm currently in.
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    Apr 18, 2009 4:19 PM GMT
    That's a worry I have - there's a difference between doing it at 31 and 22.
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    Apr 18, 2009 4:28 PM GMT
    No it is not easy by no means. It can be very nerve wracking even at a young age because you don't know what is going to happen to you once you arrive in the desired city or state. I did it once when I got out of the US Army in Fort Polk, Louisiana and then moved to Austin, Texas. I should have stuck to my guns and moved to Houston like I originally desired but many people in my Army unit talked me into going to Austin instead. I like Buffalo but at the same token, I am considering relocating to another city preferably out of the State of New York. I have a full time job but it is dead end and low wage and I am getting sick and tired of living from paycheck to paycheck. I am also sick and damned tired of the high taxes and nothing getting done in this state. I feel that I could be doing a lot better than working at a $8.30 an hour fulltime job but the economic situation is not that great right now. So here I am struggling away but getting by in Buffalo.
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    Apr 18, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
    I've done it. I moved to Houston after finishing law school. Not only was there no job waiting for me, but I had loads of student debt. The motive wasn't to better my career but to be with someone. Of course the relationship crashed almost immediately. So the whole venture in hindsight seems suicidal.
    But it was the best move I've ever made. My career took off. I've been happy and successful in ways that would not have been possible in Boston.
    Trust your instincts. If you feel your life has gone stagnant, it probably has. Try the move or spend the rest of your life regretting the opportunity you didn't take.
  • Webster666

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    Apr 18, 2009 7:38 PM GMT
    What you're talking about, I DID do in my 20s. And, it worked out for me. But, in today's employment market, I wouldn't recommend it for anyone.

    Figure out what city you might like to live in. Do some research. Could you stand to live in their weather (hot in Phoenix, long, snowbound Winters in Minneapolis, tons of rain in Seattle) ? Do they have a gay community ?

    Then, go on Craigslist (for instance) for that city, and see what jobs are available. If you get an interview and it looks like you'll get the job, then tell them that you'll need a little time for moving. At the same time you're job hunting, check out the apartment/real estate situation in that city.

    In this economy, landing the job is paramount. To move there first, and not be able to find a job, could be devastating.
  • Webster666

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    Apr 18, 2009 7:43 PM GMT
    BTW, when I made my big move, when I was in my 20s, I had just bought a brand new car (with car payments). I was young, and dumb and full of.................................... optimism. LOL.

    But, as an earlier poster said, it was one of the best moves I ever made in my life. It got me where I was supposed to be. So, don't be afraid of making the move. Just do the research and make your plans ahead of time. Don't just move there, and hope for the best.
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    Apr 18, 2009 7:54 PM GMT
    turtlesarecool saidThat's a worry I have - there's a difference between doing it at 31 and 22.


    When it comes to doing things that might make you happy, age should not matter. It seems you're in need of some fresh air, a new start. So go for it. Don't waste time contemplating, just do it, i'm sure it will be worth it. I know it's easier said than done but...yeah, just do it.

    So is the master's program totally out of the question now?
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    Apr 18, 2009 8:03 PM GMT
    Ah Turtles.... Am about to do the same. Sometimes you reach a point where "sensible, cautious advice" is irrelevant, because you cannot stay where you are. Such is life, and even being sensible doesn´t always work.

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    Apr 18, 2009 8:06 PM GMT
    It worked for those thousands of Oakies who migrated to California.

    Similar situation, why not?

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    Apr 18, 2009 8:31 PM GMT
    boilerup_82 said
    turtlesarecool saidThat's a worry I have - there's a difference between doing it at 31 and 22.


    When it comes to doing things that might make you happy, age should not matter. It seems you're in need of some fresh air, a new start. So go for it. Don't waste time contemplating, just do it, i'm sure it will be worth it. I know it's easier said than done but...yeah, just do it.

    So is the master's program totally out of the question now?


    Aww, Boiler, you remembered! For a Purdue kid, you're all right.

    I'm not sure, but it's looking like it. My graduate counselor either isn't answering my emails and calls or not telling me enough when she does, and the more I think about it the tougher it will be to use this master's degree to make a solid living (and I was just turned down for further funding). So, for now, it's less than 50/50.
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    Apr 18, 2009 8:33 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidAh Turtles.... Am about to do the same. Sometimes you reach a point where "sensible, cautious advice" is irrelevant, because you cannot stay where you are. Such is life, and even being sensible doesn´t always work.


    If I move, does this mean our wedding is off? Hehe.
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    Apr 18, 2009 8:39 PM GMT
    i agree that age shouldn't matter. i have picked up and moved several time without a job in place. i did it at the ages of 22, 26, 28, 29, and 31. you already don't have anything but part time work - that means you will know how to live on part time work somewhere else.

    you have to be happy now. it's not something that can wait.

    yes, it'd be "safer" and "more mature" to have a job first. it makes it easier. but you also said people aren't hiring where you are now, so why stay?? you can get part time work somewhere else, and then at least you'll be in a place you like.

    you have to decide whether the place you are in offers you the opportunities you want. but you have to weigh this against the risk that you will go to a place you "like" that isn't any better work-wise (even though it's better soul-wise).

    you can do this in your 30's. i did it with mountains of debt dragging behind me. if you're debt-free, you're in a better position than most people right from the get go.

    i say move. do it. be happy. maturity can wait - it comes with age. you're only 31! be mature when you're 40.
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    Apr 18, 2009 8:44 PM GMT
    dancerjack said

    ...i say move. do it. be happy. maturity can wait - it comes with age. you're only 31! be mature when you're 40.


    I refuse to be mature dancerjack (damn it... I'm in denial)

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    Apr 18, 2009 8:46 PM GMT
    I kind of did that when I picked up and move to Philly on my lonesome. I'm still getting myself situated 6 months later, and I'm flat broke, and I've been on more job interviews the past week alone than i can count on my fingers but I'm having the time of my life. I'm exploring something new, on my own, and proving to myself and others that I can do it. I'm making tons of new friends, and seeing things fall into place for down the road...

    you say it's different being 31 and 22, but either way you look at; at 50, do you want to say you were too scared to go for it?
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    Apr 18, 2009 8:46 PM GMT
    good, justinono! perhaps maturity can wait til we die... LOL
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    Apr 18, 2009 8:47 PM GMT
    Mostly just repeating what everyone else said here, but I would move. It sounds like a perfect opportunity to go somewhere you want to right now, if you had a full time job the prospect might not even be there.

    I guess I fit the "someone would do in their mid 20's" thing, I just up and moved to NY and it's stressful but at least I'm somewhere happy!

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    Apr 18, 2009 8:49 PM GMT
    Nah, age has got nothing to do with anything. Just run with it, especially if you are debt free.
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    Apr 18, 2009 8:50 PM GMT
    I agree with the thought about not caring so much about age when you're about to make a city change. What is there holding you to your current city? If you had a mortgage on a house that wouldn't sell; a good career; or family ties - then you'd find it much harder to uproot yourself and go where you'll be happier. This is a good time in your life - you're pretty much free to go wherever you like. There may not be another - better time to go. Why not do it before you're encumbered? I don't think it matters if you're in your 20s or 30s to do this. I uprooted myself and moved here to Arizona from California at age 39........and I think there are lots of good things about making a change - even if you loved the city you were from. Good luck!
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    Apr 18, 2009 8:55 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidgood, justinono! perhaps maturity can wait til we die... LOL


    A friend of mine once told me I'll have plenty of time to rest when I am dead - and it still applies. I wonder at what point my penchant for behavior that may not quite match my age will catch up to me.

    But to the OP, fear not. Just have some extra cash for an emergency, otherwise, go for it and move. I have been a road warrior for a long time, and sure settling down somewhere sounds nice... but having no particular roots except in my hometown, which I am fond of, is kind of nice!
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    Apr 18, 2009 9:09 PM GMT
    I did this in 2005/2006. I had a good severance package fixed my house up and put up for sale. I was able to land a job before my unemployment ran out. I moved in with someone for a really low rent (basically shared expenses) and ended up making lots of money on my house (took 8 months to sell) and reducing my bills.

    I Have no debt now, but may invest in a house with my savings since property is low now. Anyway it was kinda a leap of faith but it felt good to be bold, let go of everything, and just do it.
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    Apr 18, 2009 9:30 PM GMT
    portrowr17 said you say it's different being 31 and 22, but either way you look at; at 50, do you want to say you were too scared to go for it?


    That's the impetus for doing this. I do worry about the cost, but in a few months i should have the cushion I need financially (at least for a year. Beyond that, well, ya know). So we'll see. But I'm nervous as heck about all of it.
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    Apr 18, 2009 9:31 PM GMT
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    portrowr17 said you say it's different being 31 and 22, but either way you look at; at 50, do you want to say you were too scared to go for it?


    That's the impetus for doing this. I do worry about the cost, but in a few months i should have the cushion I need financially (at least for a year. Beyond that, well, ya know). So we'll see. But I'm nervous as heck about all of it.


    bah. I´m moving country (and I´m not even sure to which one yet) .
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    Apr 18, 2009 9:32 PM GMT
    After many months of being out of work and fighting the "overqualified" stigma, a non-compete agreement, and lousy economy, I'm about ready to pack up the car, make like horse shit and hit the trail. I can't stand the weather in Portland anyway, and since I'm in transition, why not? Unfortunately, I can't sell my condo because of construction defect litigation that has been dragging on for almost two years so I'd be flat broke. Guess I could sell my car and every stick of furniture, then pick a place with good public transportation. If nothing else, it would be a BIG adventure.
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    Apr 18, 2009 9:48 PM GMT
    I'm in the exact same boat. Jobs here are non exisitant and living in the bible belt with no gay life at all is killing me! UGH!!
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    Apr 18, 2009 9:56 PM GMT
    d4orce saidI'm in the exact same boat. Jobs here are non exisitant and living in the bible belt with no gay life at all is killing me! UGH!!


    At least you have the beach to relax you! Best we have is this crappy waterpark ... although it's probably filled with as many rednecks as your beaches have!

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