Computer Gurus? IP Masking?

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    Apr 22, 2009 1:43 AM GMT
    Hey guys. I'm not sure if anyone on here can help me with this, but I'd really appreciate it if you could.

    Currently I'm living in the Caribbean (Turks & Caicos Islands) and access to mainstream media is limited to the internet and the pretty unreliable cable/satellite TV feed we have. So, on my last trip to the States, I picked myself up a "Roku" which connects to Netflix and Amazon through the internet. Basically it lets me stream movies and TV shows in HD to my television here on the island. It's been working flawlessly for a month or so until tonight.

    It now gives me an error message that says I am only allowed to use the service within the 50 States. I'm assuming it knows I'm not in the US because of my IP address. YouTube has also been blocking a ton of videos recently giving the same error.

    My question to the tech gurus out there is can I somehow mask or trick the Roku into thinking I'm really in the US? Can I somehow do something to my router in order to get this to work? I'm dying without my movies at the moment.

    If it helps, I'm using an Apple Airport Extreme (the new square draft N version) as my router and connecting to it via wireless on the Roku.

    Help!!

    Many thanks in advance!
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    Apr 22, 2009 2:01 AM GMT
    I suppose this roku jiggers doesn't have anything fancy like VPN settings does it?
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    Apr 22, 2009 2:21 AM GMT
    It doesn't have any type of configurable settings as far as I can tell except wired vs wireless internet. I can view the MAC addresses for each protocol, but that's about it.

    I wasn't sure if I could reserve an IP address through the router and somehow trick it masking the external IP. I've searched lots of masking programs, but they all seem to run through IE or Firefox, not a router.
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    Apr 22, 2009 2:37 AM GMT
    Masking the IP on your own router won't help. The content providers are detecting the IP of your internet provider.

    You have to use a proxy server in the US. But some content providers are getting smart and blocking proxy access.

    Only thing that kinda sucks about proxy access is security. Because the internet traffic is flowing through someone else's server before it goes to you. For watching random youtube videos, it's fine. But I wouldn't use it for any paid service like Amazon or Netflix. Your account can be compromised.

    There are also paid proxy service providers, so I think those might be a little safer than the free ones. I have no experience with this company, but the name came up frequently when I was googling around..

    http://www.witopia.net/

    If you feel like taking a chance, it's about US$40 per year.
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    Apr 22, 2009 5:45 AM GMT
    unfortunately the airport extreme is not VPN client its self and can only pass through a VPN connection, short of setting up this roku thingy through another computer which has a VPN setup you wont have much luck..

    do to the computer thing, you'd have to connect the roku box upto the computer, connect the computer to a VPN server which will then hide everything, but, you'd need a computer to do that with.. you should also note that it can slow the connection down considerably doing all that mostly the VPN fault..
  • swimbikerun

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    Apr 22, 2009 5:51 AM GMT
    Can you have a friend set up a box here in the US that you can use as a host?
    If he sets up a server here with a company based in the US, can he then use that IP address?
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    Apr 22, 2009 7:03 AM GMT
    swimbikerun saidCan you have a friend set up a box here in the US that you can use as a host?
    If he sets up a server here with a company based in the US, can he then use that IP address?

    IP addresses don't move, a certain range of IP addresses are allocated to which ever company brought them up (ISP's, Hosts, Government and so on) which remain with that company..

    Hence why, using your ip address I can find out what ISP.

    Not only that, but for you to access this site, you will have gone through other computers which many have known IP address and geographical locations, thus, using the route the data takes, your ISP and using the IP address can work out your approximate geographical location..

    So, Halltd's IP address would be a partially known location ie, not within the united states.

    This is actually becoming more and more of a problem now, so much media is being restricted to USA only.. very frustrating
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    Apr 22, 2009 1:37 PM GMT
    I don't mind replacing my router with something else that's more configurable. I know some D-link and Linksys routers can have custom software installed, etc... I honestly think my only option would be to mask my external IP address to the internet. But, then I'm guessing my internet would stop working. ha ha!!

    I guess in the end the Roku was only $99. It's a good thing I didn't buy the $350 Netflix Bluray player or then I would've been really pissed.

    It seems like all of these "media location shifting" devices mostly help out people in my situation, but then don't work.
  • swimbikerun

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    Apr 22, 2009 1:52 PM GMT
    lilTanker said
    swimbikerun saidCan you have a friend set up a box here in the US that you can use as a host?
    If he sets up a server here with a company based in the US, can he then use that IP address?

    IP addresses don't move, a certain range of IP addresses are allocated to which ever company brought them up (ISP's, Hosts, Government and so on) which remain with that company..

    Hence why, using your ip address I can find out what ISP.

    Not only that, but for you to access this site, you will have gone through other computers which many have known IP address and geographical locations, thus, using the route the data takes, your ISP and using the IP address can work out your approximate geographical location..

    So, Halltd's IP address would be a partially known location ie, not within the united states.

    This is actually becoming more and more of a problem now, so much media is being restricted to USA only.. very frustrating
    Hmmm...
    Doesn't seem to be an easy way around IP banning...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_blocking
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    Apr 22, 2009 10:15 PM GMT
    the only way I can think of doing it is the way I suggested above.. hardware that handles the vnc side of things isn't cheap, at least the stuff I know about which would also require a very strong understanding of networking

    if you did my suggestion I'm pretty sure that would get you around it, but, I couldn't be a 100% sure
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    Apr 22, 2009 10:38 PM GMT
    Maybe this can help: Anonymizer.com
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    Apr 22, 2009 10:40 PM GMT
    McGay saidMaybe this can help: Anonymizer.com


    Not sure if Anonymizer or Tor would work, since it doesn't sound like he can configure a proxy server on the device.
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    Apr 22, 2009 10:40 PM GMT
    The easiest solution is to ditch the Roku box and grab content off BitTorrent, Usenet binaries newsgroups, etc.
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    Apr 22, 2009 10:47 PM GMT
    Anonymizer proxies, at least in the past, were configured into the web browser with one link, where rotating proxies are assigned so as not to keep 1 IP too long. I believe that in addition to the IPs of their proxies, they own tons of other IPs that they assign at will as part of their "cloaking" technology.
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    Apr 22, 2009 11:49 PM GMT
    To stream? No.
  • swimbikerun

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    Apr 22, 2009 11:54 PM GMT
    paradox saidThe easiest solution is to ditch the Roku box and grab content off BitTorrent, Usenet binaries newsgroups, etc.

    Yeah I was thinking of that too.

    Vuze rocks!

    http://www.vuze.com/app
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    Apr 23, 2009 12:19 AM GMT
    Even at $150 a month, our internet here isn't nearly as fast as say Comcast or RoadRunner in the States. So, downloading a Torrent of a full-length movie of good quality could take me a good two days (since I can't do it at work). Also, when I use Torrents, my browsing is so slow, it's not even worth using. So, I only download movies at night. I have Vonage as well (to save on the $3 a minute calls off the island), which is unusable when downloading Torrents. So, while I can do it, it's not convenient at all.

    I called the guy in charge of our cable company (he's a friend) and told him what's up. Apparently they just gained direct access to the US through the ARCOS cable (submarine fiber cable that connects the Caribbean to Miami) and therefore had to register their subnet of IPs as Turks and Caicos. Before this, they were renting bandwidth from the single telephone company on the island which apparently was using US IPs.

    He said he could give me a static US address, but it'd cost me $25 a month. I'm not sure it's worth that since I already pay $150 for internet alone. But, that's looking like my only option at this point.

    At least my Slingbox and Slingcatcher are still working for the time being. So, I can at least still use my DVR at home and watch US television.

    Thanks for all the help guys. I really appreciate it. I'm still going to keep searching for another option too.
  • swimbikerun

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    Apr 23, 2009 1:55 AM GMT
    halltd said

    At least my Slingbox and Slingcatcher are still working for the time being. So, I can at least still use my DVR at home and watch US television.

    Thanks for all the help guys. I really appreciate it. I'm still going to keep searching for another option too.
    Oh I'd completely forgotten about the Slingbox.
    Hmmm... Maybe just have someone burn everything for you and mail it...?
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    Apr 23, 2009 2:00 AM GMT
    paradox saidThe easiest solution is to ditch the Roku box and grab content off BitTorrent, Usenet binaries newsgroups, etc.


    ya, if they won't let you pay for it....fuck 'em...download it for free.
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    Apr 23, 2009 2:14 AM GMT
    mate I gave you an option.. connect the roku box up to a computer and share the internet through the computer, use the computer the establish an VNC connection over the internet to a US VNC server..

    after thinking about it a fair bit.. it'll work.. you just need to be willing to fiddle.. wont require any more investing in hardware either.
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    Apr 23, 2009 2:32 AM GMT
    Yeah, I'm going to try that this weekend. I'm not sure the interface will work on a PC, but I'll give it a whirl. I just want more than a couple of hours to fiddle around with it.
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    Apr 23, 2009 2:40 AM GMT
    wow, I just learned a few things here, thanks!
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    Apr 24, 2009 12:51 AM GMT
    Crisis averted!! My friend at the cable company assigned me a static IP address which is still within the US subnet. One of the good things about living on an island is being able to know the man in charge of the cable company for the entire country. icon_smile.gif

    Thanks again for everyone's help. I'm going to watch March of the Penguins now on my Roku!!
  • swimbikerun

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    May 05, 2009 6:10 AM GMT
    Interesting...
    "How to Watch Hulu Around the World

    http://newteevee.com/2009/05/04/how-to-watch-hulu-around-the-world/#more-24056
    http://hotspotshield.com/