Top ten "greenest" US states are....

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    Apr 22, 2009 1:15 PM GMT
    http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=BW&date=20090420&id=9800215

    Anyone find some of the states in the top ten to be a surprise?

    America’s Greenest States—According to the Earthsense Eco-Insights Survey, residents living in the top ten green states are 9 percent more likely to exhibit green behavior. Their top eco-behaviors include turning off the lights when they leave a room, buying products made of recycled materials, recycling cans, bottles and newspapers regularly, turning down the thermostat and limiting their use of water in the home. Based on the Earthsense Eco-Insights Survey, the top ten green U.S. states rank as follows:

    1. Vermont
    2. Alaska
    3. New Mexico
    4. Oregon
    5. Massachusetts
    6. Wyoming
    7. Delaware
    8. Minnesota
    9. District of Columbia
    10. Idaho

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    Apr 22, 2009 2:08 PM GMT
    only real suprise is new mexico, but i think thats just bc i think its an ugly state...
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    Apr 22, 2009 3:08 PM GMT
    Looking at whole states is a bad way to go about this. Many of those states have crap green policy (in terms of building standards, emissions, energy initiatives) but they have low populations, little industry, and not much agriculture. California has a ton of absolutely great, cutting edge green policy but as the most populous state with a lot of industry and a lot of agriculture it looks like a shameless polluter next to the barren wastes of Wyoming.

    Oregon, however, is fucking sweet.
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    Apr 22, 2009 3:15 PM GMT
    Washington State is by far the most beautiful state...TRUST ME, HANDS DOWNicon_wink.gif
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    Apr 22, 2009 3:21 PM GMT
    They realize DC isn't a state? Just sayin' ...
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    Apr 22, 2009 3:23 PM GMT
    turtlesarecool saidThey realize DC isn't a state? Just sayin' ...


    and Massachusetts is actually a "Commonwealth".
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    Apr 22, 2009 3:27 PM GMT
    I know that in Kansas, the town that was mashed by a monster tornado 2 years ago is building back as a "green city"

    Greensburg, KS

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    Apr 22, 2009 3:29 PM GMT
    Yea it makes sense, none of the states listed feature the most populated cities in the USA...


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    Apr 22, 2009 4:09 PM GMT
    turtlesarecool saidThey realize DC isn't a state? Just sayin' ...


    i was thinking the same thing . . .
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    Apr 22, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidLooking at whole states is a bad way to go about this. Many of those states have crap green policy (in terms of building standards, emissions, energy initiatives) but they have low populations, little industry, and not much agriculture. California has a ton of absolutely great, cutting edge green policy but as the most populous state with a lot of industry and a lot of agriculture it looks like a shameless polluter next to the barren wastes of Wyoming.


    That's true. Even within states you can find regions that are extremely "green" and others that aren't. California probably comes to most people's minds, but even in NY, people in the Hudson Valley and other parts of upstate are very environmentally conscious (read: hippies) while areas like Westchester, NYC and Long Island aren't necessarily so.
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    Apr 22, 2009 5:05 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidLooking at whole states is a bad way to go about this...


    Which is why they didn't do it that way...

    "According to the Earthsense Eco-Insights Survey, residents living in the top ten green states are 9 percent more likely to exhibit green behavior."


    The data is based on percent of population, thus normalizing for size.

    The list of states makes perfect sense... residents in sparsely populated states usually live in those states because they are attracted to the "unspoiled" natural beauty and are thus more likely to want to protect it than someone in a large city

    MunchingZombie said...the barren wastes of Wyoming


    Would those barren wastes be in Yellowstone perhaps?
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    Apr 22, 2009 5:11 PM GMT
    juishe saidYea it makes sense, none of the states listed feature the most populated cities in the USA...




    oh my god...who's this guy? I think everyone should move to Florida, regardless of greenness, just to bask in the heat coming off of juishe's body.

    umm, what was the question?

    oh ya, I was surprised North and South Dakota weren't on there...does anyone even live there?
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    Apr 22, 2009 5:20 PM GMT
    masculine31 saidWashington State is by far the most beautiful state...TRUST ME, HANDS DOWNicon_wink.gif


    Yeah, I really do miss it sometimes, that's Western not Eastern Washington...lol I'm surprised it didn't make the list. Western Washington is damned near psychotic about recycling compared to most places. The other half of the state is so Republican I'm sure some cities have laws against recycling.icon_lol.gif

    Alaska, Idaho and Wyoming on the list are something of a surprise to me. Traditionally red states take great pride in being opposed to any eco-friendly behavior or legislation.
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    Apr 22, 2009 5:21 PM GMT
    OutdoorMutt said
    turtlesarecool saidThey realize DC isn't a state? Just sayin' ...


    and Massachusetts is actually a "Commonwealth".


    Smartasses

    Good for D.C. We're trying
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    Apr 22, 2009 5:33 PM GMT
    hmmmm
    Colorado isn't up there??
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    Apr 22, 2009 5:51 PM GMT
    daystroom said
    MunchingZombie saidLooking at whole states is a bad way to go about this...


    Which is why they didn't do it that way...

    "According to the Earthsense Eco-Insights Survey, residents living in the top ten green states are 9 percent more likely to exhibit green behavior."


    The data is based on percent of population, thus normalizing for size.

    The list of states makes perfect sense... residents in sparsely populated states usually live in those states because they are attracted to the "unspoiled" natural beauty and are thus more likely to want to protect it than someone in a large city

    MunchingZombie said...the barren wastes of Wyoming


    Would those barren wastes be in Yellowstone perhaps?


    Individual actions do not help with larger issues though. A very large percentage of pollution comes out of building construction and generating energy. States and municipalities need to make strong policy decisions to curb that pollution including LEED building standards (of which cities like Chicago, Portland, and Austin are really leading the country on) and alternative forms of energy.

    This isn't an urban V Rural issue, though. Looking at the results and looking at where effective policy is implemented tells you something about this study and why a state-wide view isn't very useful. Though, I was joking around when I called Wyoming a wasteland. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 22, 2009 5:58 PM GMT
    I have been to Hawaii, and it is the most beautiful US State I have ever visited. Vermont and New Hampshire are also very nice. I have never been to Oregon and Washington.
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    Apr 22, 2009 6:22 PM GMT
    Regardless of how low I'm sure Florida and Miami would be on the list, Miami and Miami Beach have a huge awareness of Green and Organic Life. Being "green" is "in".
    There are tons of Organic and vegan restaurants down here as well as farmer's markets and places like Whole Foods Market that specialize is Organic food.
    And there are plenty of green architects beginning work on new buildings down here.
    There are also tons os organizations devoted to environmental awareness and beach clean ups. You also see handfuls of those little European electrical cars.

    We're def Green here.
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    Apr 22, 2009 6:56 PM GMT
    Where's Connecticut on this list?? icon_rolleyes.gif Naw, we have a lot of work to do yet...
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    Apr 22, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
    I'm so incredibly disappointed Washington isn't on the list... Woah, I'm nearly heartbroken. This is one of the most beautiful places on the planet, and to not make a list of green...I mean, wow, I thought our residents knew what was up. Means I'll have to get back out there and do more volunteering!
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    Apr 22, 2009 7:21 PM GMT
    There's some odd stuff that might have contributed to Alaska, the way this study was calculated.

    For one, we have three cities and only 600k pple. Two of the cities are connected by some 300-mile highways. Half of them live in Anchorage, a fairly green city with Natural Gas for heating, and a limited recycling program.

    Most houses and buildings here have some heavy duty foundation work and insulation due to the permafrost and cold temperatures in the winter. That cold also drives up the heating cost nevertheless-our house cost about $1500 a month to heat this winter.

    In terms of general infrastructure and human impact on the state, it's very limited compared to other states. Even if you tried to take into consideration the north slope oil fields, they use some pretty badass methods to avoid environmental impact. I have relatives who design and make ice roads for the oil companies, and in summertime there's these huge crawlers that put about 1lb per square inch of pressure on the tundra.
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    Apr 22, 2009 7:58 PM GMT
    TheIStrat said
    OutdoorMutt said
    turtlesarecool saidThey realize DC isn't a state? Just sayin' ...


    and Massachusetts is actually a "Commonwealth".


    Smartasses

    Good for D.C. We're trying


    My arse be brilliant! Hehe.
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    Apr 22, 2009 8:03 PM GMT
    waxon saidonly real suprise is new mexico, but i think thats just bc i think its an ugly state...

    You must never have been to northern NM. Drive the high road between Santa Fe and Taos and the mountains are as beautiful as Eden on the day of creation.
    The area is also a New Agey mecca and hence it's obsessively green.
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    Apr 22, 2009 8:50 PM GMT
    The best is a foreign country, and thats Hawai'i
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    Apr 22, 2009 8:58 PM GMT
    I would have thought Montana would show up here...