DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE ARE LESS POLITE THAN BEFORE? You hear it from so many people, "Its not like it used to be"

  • HndsmKansan

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    Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM GMT
    Ah the good old days, when everything was simplier.. and people were polite... supposidly.

    I hear it from older family members from other people.. "people are so rude", "drivers are not courteous", "people don't care"......

    So I'm curious. What do you really think. Do you think in general society is less "polite" than before?

    My take... society is less "formal" than before.. in every way.. dressing, structure of the family, ways of doing things... and perhaps that means behavior perceived as "less polite". I always try and be polite, from holding a door open for the person behind me, to thanking cashiers for their help, to phone manners and even on the road ... getting over for the driver trying to get on the road at an intersection.

    Your thoughts?

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    Apr 25, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
    They are fucking wrong.

    Jerks.
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    Apr 25, 2009 7:14 PM GMT
    Yup. I've said it before in other threads. Courtesy and common sense are dying. They're slowly be replaced with self-entitlement and aggro rudeness.

    But I'm not losing hope yet. I try to kill em with kindness whenever possible. Some are able to figure it out, and others just continue to behave like big babies.

    Maybe high schools need to implement some sort of social skills training into the curriculum. Along with personal finance.

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    Apr 25, 2009 7:41 PM GMT
    Yeah, society is a lot less formal than it was in the days of old. In American culture we've had these feelings of looking out for your fellow man/woman, but they all dissipate with the arrival of new technologies and social mores that cater to the needs of the individual. iPods, cell phones, and internet are just a few examples of how we cut ourselves off from people. I think there will be a point where it will get really bad before we all make the committment to getting back to the days when young kids could walk down the street of their own neighborhood without much worry. The way our parents screwed us with the job of "Clean the environment or die!" we will screw the next generation with "Learn how to communicate or kill each other!"
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    Apr 25, 2009 7:48 PM GMT
    hndsmkansanAh the good old days, when everything was simplier.. .


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    I'd say things are a lot better now than they were.
  • hoo4u

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    Apr 25, 2009 7:52 PM GMT
    Our culture in America has become very rude. I think the anonymity of communication, email, texting, internet, IM'ing, has allowed people to become much less civilized. They can hide behind the curtain and treat people well worse than they would face to face. Just my humble opinion. And if you disagree you can just go F@#* yourself. Just kidding.

    Can't we all just get along????

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    Apr 25, 2009 7:55 PM GMT
    I think it depends where you live. I used to live in London, which I like a lot, but it's not a friendly place, because everyone is so damn busy and the place is so damn crowded.

    Horses for courses.

  • Webster666

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    Apr 25, 2009 7:56 PM GMT
    Absolutely !!!!
    And, the reason is that too many people are trying to occupy too little space, so everybody is fighting for their share.
    The smaller the city or town, the more congenial people tend to be.

    My biggest complaint, though, is with businesses. They all want your money, but they don't want to give you any service. Businesses never answer the phone anymore. You have to listen to an hour long menu of choices that have nothing to do with what you want. There should be a law that the very first choice on those menus be, 'if you want to talk to a real live person, press "0" !' If it's going to take 6 weeks, don't tell me it'll take 2 weeks. Then, they put a lazy, obnoxious, minimum wage brat at the front desk as the face of their company. Sorry. I guess I wandered into an off-topic rant there...
  • jgymnast733

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    Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM GMT
    Some people are brought up,
    And
    Some people are dragged up.

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    Apr 25, 2009 8:10 PM GMT
    Web, go ahead and rant. We all are in the "ranting mood" when these things come up. Yes, waaaaayyyyyyy less formal for sure. It's effecting our language the way we write and the way we deal w/strangers. I've seen it in dealing w/clients/customers in my work, (I do try to be professional and speak clearly and coherently). I see it in the way the military I work for deals w/their chain of command and have heard many of higher ranking complaining about it. I even see it in the way that businesses deal w/each other. The hot tub here at the hotel I'm staying with, keeps failing. The repairs take FFOORREEVVEERR! The hotel owners finally called the corporate of the company. Got fast reply when they did this butt, the guy that came out to complete the repairs just didn't even give a shit. Servers in restaurants... Don't get me started on that. I respect anyone who has the balls to let the server know ahead of time how much their tip will be if we are pleased w/the service...
    Hndsm, I like the reaction I get when I do something really nice. Like let someone go ahead of me in line somewhere. Holding the doors, saying please and thank you for everything... It's just crazy sometimes...
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    Apr 25, 2009 8:11 PM GMT
    Hmmm, regarding waiting staff, I've never understood why people expect them to do a grinding, low paid job... and pretend that they're having fun.

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    Apr 25, 2009 8:29 PM GMT
    I've thought about this today - and from my perspective people are about the same as many years ago. Wherever I go there are good, considerate, polite people and the occasional inconsiderate idiot. I thought about it going back as far as I can remember and it seems we've always had the mix of good and bad people. I just try to surround myself with the good people.
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    Apr 25, 2009 9:11 PM GMT
    I must agree with Jockbod, there have always been considerate, polite, selfless people, and there have always been the opposite....I think that the reason we seem to notice more of the impoliteness in society is not because more individuals are jerks, it could be that life is so much more fast paced, almost like every man, woman, and child for themselves...people have become more aggressive and there doesnt seem to be enough time in the day to get things done...so therefore it is often mistaken for abrasiveness/rudeness....I am very lucky to be brought up by very loving, caring, selfless, educated, worldly parents who have raised me to be a loving, caring, selfless, classy gentlemanicon_wink.gif
  • coolarmydude

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    Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM GMT
    Lost_And_Found said, "American South
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    I'd say things are a lot better now than they were."



    You obviously missed the news reports that Louisiana residents were openly and unashamedly taking in white only families and children ravaged from the Katrina floods.
  • Sirkit

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    Apr 25, 2009 9:33 PM GMT
    I'm not sure people are more rude now than they were before (that's a value judgment anyway) I think the interactions have changed and so have the expectations for those interactions. I see it a lot in the younger generation (the 'Millenials') of which I am a member. The way we communicate is brief and frequently abrupt. We use text messages, IM (less so), and e-mail (practically not at all) . It's not rude because it's the way we communicate. It's hard to compress all the pleasantries of human interaction into a readable text message.

    When you take that form of communication and mix it with people who are used to the Gen X (or baby boomer, or pre-net, blah blah) manner of communication we Millenials appear pretty rude. We're not rude, we just don't think the same way older people do, we grew up exposed to entirely novel technology and advertising. That's effected how we interact, and we get along with each other really well.

    This is a question that has been asked a lot over the years; if you read any 18th century literature there are plenty of references to the same feelings as 19th century mentalities begin to take hold. As every way of social interaction get's old and fades there are always the people who yearn for the 'good old days/ways'.
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    Apr 25, 2009 9:34 PM GMT
    I dunno, whether on RJ or off, I find a pretty steady stream of really nice guys, polite even.
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    Apr 25, 2009 9:35 PM GMT
    Its da sign of da times...its in the bible lol...just look on websites, people dont post face pics on their page, yet hit people up wit face pics, but get offended when they are turned down, or how about this: u pay them a compliment, but they dont say thank uicon_eek.gif lmao...i can only imagine wut these rude people are like in personicon_lol.gif
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    Apr 25, 2009 10:06 PM GMT
    I don't know if it's more rude, or more clueless and tuned out of their environment.
  • dannyboy1101

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    Apr 25, 2009 10:08 PM GMT
    xrichx said

    Maybe high schools need to implement some sort of social skills training into the curriculum. Along with personal finance.

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    Yeah, well pretty sure high schools have their hands full at this point without adding a standardized test to test whether Joey knows how to help the old lady cross the street. Fix that shite No Child Left Behind and then we'll talk.
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    Apr 25, 2009 10:10 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidLost_And_Found said, "American South
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    I'd say things are a lot better now than they were."



    You obviously missed the news reports that Louisiana residents were openly and unashamedly taking in white only families and children ravaged from the Katrina floods.


    Yikes. I did. Still though, I think it's impressive how far America has come with race relations.
  • dannyboy1101

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    Apr 25, 2009 10:17 PM GMT
    I really think it comes down to parenting. Mom used to always be at home for the majority of kids and breathing down their necks to be polite and responsible. Now with most kids having both parents working, kids are raising themselves and think they're doing a damn good job (what do you know after all?).

    I also think that reality tv is showing that the people who don't censor the worst qualities of their personalities will become famous and looked up to or will be seen as entertaining by the vast majority. What motivation do kids have to be nice? And the worst thing is this: they're becoming unchanged adults slowly but surely.
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    Apr 25, 2009 10:35 PM GMT
    I grew up in a generation 1950s - 1960s, whenever I was rude, or misbehaved, I was smacked, especially at my infants school (from age 5 to 11 yrs). At secondary school, all the teachers were feared by the students, even female teachers. But three male teachers were the source of real terror, especially when one of them had a booming voice when at a normal lesson. During PE lessions, several times I watched boys, tougher than myself, break into tears as they were compelled to bend over and receive the sole of a slipper ( a trainer) applied with full force across their buttocks. (We were all made to watch). Luckily, I escaped such corporal punishments.
    However, society was more polite and courteous to each other, you can walk down a street at night without fear, we were more thankful with our lot than we are today, none of us grumbled about manual labour, and there was a stronger sense of community spirit within the neighbourhood.
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    Apr 25, 2009 10:56 PM GMT
    Golly, I hope not.

    I've seen my share of dickheads and asses, but I'm not a complainer; I can take it.
  • godsfire

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    Apr 25, 2009 10:59 PM GMT
    I don't think people were ever as polite as people seem to remember. Its all just imagined memories from wistful old folk.
    If you want to see politeness and courtesy than you must "be the change you wish to see in the world"
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    Apr 25, 2009 11:06 PM GMT
    naw people smaller then me are generally very polite they do get a little upset though when I walk through them, but, thats just because they didn't get out of my way which I find highly rude..