GOP Stripped Flu Pandemic Preparedness From Stimulus Bill

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    Apr 28, 2009 12:03 AM GMT
    "Famously, Maine Senator Collins, the supposedly moderate Republican who demanded cuts in health care spending in exchange for her support of a watered-down version of the stimulus, fumed about the pandemic funding: "Does it belong in this bill? Should we have $870 million in this bill No, we should not."

    Even now, Collins continues to use her official website to highlight the fact that she led the fight to strip the pandemic preparedness money out of the Senate's version of the stimulus measure."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/27/gop-stripped-flu-pandemic_n_191732.html
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    Apr 28, 2009 1:01 AM GMT
    I just saw the clip from her speech on this during Senate proceedings. I just said, "What a fucking idiot!" The bad thing is that these nuts are like roaches - this won't kill 'em!
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    Apr 28, 2009 1:23 AM GMT
    I am from Maine.

    Susan Collins is indeed a moderate Republican. She more open than most Republicans in Congress.

    The hard-liner conservatives in my state call her a RINO--Republican In Name Only.

    However, I am saddened to hear this news. I voted for her this past Fall. Politicans aren't perfect and sometimes make stupid mistakes. I'd be curious to hear her side though.

    Collins is no Inhofe, Sessions, or Brownback.
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    Apr 28, 2009 1:29 AM GMT
    If you read the article, you would see this little nugget:

    "We did put over $500 million in the omnibus, and HHS/DHS are fairly well-supplied, but it was an opportunity lost for being appropriately prepared."

    Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) was among those who had pushed for the pandemic money after pressing the Bush administration to take bird flu seriously.

    "The Senator was disappointed that the money was taken out of the economic recovery package because that money was to develop the capacity to produce pandemic vaccines quickly in the U.S. in response to any pandemic," said his spokeswoman Kate Cyrul. "This capacity is not there yet and would not be if we had appropriated the money, but the current outbreak reminds us that we need to be prepared."


    There is no doubt the federal government needs to take aims to be prepared for such emergencies, but it does not need to be part of any economic stimulus bill. Appropriations such as this are best left to the omnibus, not economic stimulus, no matter how indirectly such spending may stimulate anything.

    And, for the record, Senator Collins is not one of the Republicans blocking the confirmation of Sebelius.

    "Senator Collins does, however, believe that it is a problem that the Centers for Disease Control and the Department of Health and Human Services still do not have top positions filled. She hopes the Senate will move promptly to confirm Governor Sebelius for HHS Secretary."

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    Apr 28, 2009 1:41 AM GMT
    No Republican, regardless of their views on anything is ever moderate enough for the people who try and spin this drivel.

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    Apr 28, 2009 2:56 AM GMT
    I find the irony of getting pork out of the stimulus and the relation to swine flu amusing icon_lol.gif

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    Apr 28, 2009 3:11 AM GMT
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    ActiveAndFit saidI find the irony of getting pork out of the stimulus and the relation to swine flu amusing icon_lol.gif

    It is hard to find the Republicans amusing these days.

    Oh, except for Michele Bachmann, bless her heart. I hope she is never voted out of office.
    Aww cheer up JP .. here .. cheney being evicted from the white house in a wheel chair .. doesn't that put just a little smile on your face?

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    Apr 28, 2009 3:11 AM GMT
    US Republicans: Party First, People Second. You can always count on them to screw the country.
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    Apr 28, 2009 3:23 AM GMT
    And who worked with those moderate Republicans to strip that and millions of dollars worth of other things out of the stimulus? Oh ya, it was moderate Democrats.

    They didn't do it even though it was obvious to everyone we were on the brink of pandemic.

    They didn't do it because killing people gives Republicans a hard on.

    They did it because they had a wrong-headed idea as to how a stimulus should function and they were in power to force their point of view.

    I don't mind some needed Republican bashing. But make no mistake, Democrats like Bill Nelson and Clair McCaskill are just as to blame. And blame for what exactly? Poor timing? Lack of prescience?
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    Apr 28, 2009 5:24 AM GMT
    Well, what was the point of the stimulus bill though? I think the problem was putting something like that into an economic recovery package instead of something else more directly related to it's purpose.
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    Apr 28, 2009 8:10 AM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidAnd who worked with those moderate Republicans to strip that and millions of dollars worth of other things out of the stimulus? Oh ya, it was moderate Democrats.

    They didn't do it even though it was obvious to everyone we were on the brink of pandemic.

    They didn't do it because killing people gives Republicans a hard on.

    They did it because they had a wrong-headed idea as to how a stimulus should function and they were in power to force their point of view.

    I don't mind some needed Republican bashing. But make no mistake, Democrats like Bill Nelson and Clair McCaskill are just as to blame. And blame for what exactly? Poor timing? Lack of prescience?


    Thank you.


    Collins is not a bad person. I have heard stuff about her in the news for many many years. To my knowledge she has never had a major controversy like this before. Many Democrats and Independents like her as well.

    I tell you: Northern Republicans are different from the Southern, Midwest, and West Coast Republicans. They are more socially liberal and Conservative of national sercurity and fiscal issues.

    Those are the type of Republicans I can admire, look-up to, and at time respectfully disagree with.

    Collins would never sign a Federal Marriage Admendment.Nor would my other Senator, Olympia Snowe... she is also a Republican.. Mind you Maine is a blue state and relatively liberal.

    My point: Collins and Snowe needed the support of moderates and democrats to get into office and hold office since 1997 and 1995 respectively.

    I don't agree with everything she does. But I believe she is of a different caliber than Rush, Bush, Cheney, Coulter, O'Reilly, Sen. Inhofe, For. Sen. Santorum, Sen. Kyl, James Dobson, etc.
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    Apr 28, 2009 7:58 PM GMT
    ActiveAndFit,
    As a long time Benny Hill fan, I laughed through the entire Dick Cheney clip.
    Thanks.
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    Apr 28, 2009 8:02 PM GMT
    I guess we needed some new juice to continue the bash republicans . Now that the SuperDuper spending plan is losing popularity something has to be done to keep peoples eyes off the democrats icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 28, 2009 8:22 PM GMT
    I have to say it is pretty stupid to blame somone for believing that stimulus money ought to be spent to stimulate the economy, not engage in disaster preparedness, no matter how prudent it may be.

    MZ is unfortunately right in that Democrats are just as much to blame for that funding being stripped (rightly so IMO).

    The purpose of the stimulus bill was to improve the economy, not save lives. Thus it was approporiately pulled out.

    I find the hypocritcal of us to hate Republicans not for anything they've acutally done wrong (which is easy enough) but to blame them for being Republicans. In the end, doesn't that make us just as bigoted as they? It is easy enough to find good examples of how Republicans have done a poor job than stupid nit-picking like this.