What's that sound?

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    Apr 29, 2009 8:49 AM GMT
    I can't stop watching this video... I would say it's creative, but I don't really know if it's derivative or not, so I'll just say it's dazzling. It even adds a cute drummer just for bonus points.


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    Apr 29, 2009 7:01 PM GMT


    I love it.


    This post may not get much attention here (who cares), I like the video because it is so abstract, but still says some things clearly, the things you perceive that is. I took it to mean that the model is revolting against, perfection, conformity, and someone elses image of her. The Tomm Gunn esque agent just sees her as an image and her clothes, not her as a woman or individual.

    I think in this video's own abstract way it tackles feminism, conformity, and society's perception of beauty. The model is perfect, and yet the agent can do little but complain and state how he'd like to change her. The model is dressed in a spiny dress and her make up is dark, her expression fixed and rigid and she's defending everything the agent wants to change. Her look is very offputting, with the sharp angles and glossy black color; I took this to represent the real her: still beautiful, but flawed and nothing near perfect. She even keeps doing unattractive things like chewing gum and grimacing at the agent, but he seems oblivious. If you notice, the only way he can touch her is through her clothes or accessories and with a gloved hand; I liked this suggestion, I took it to mean the agent/men/society cannot touch or hope to understand a woman except through articles of clothing, but the model/women revolts from this tradition.

    Even when she threatens to leave, he only cares about the shoes that are taking her away not that she's leaving. His oblivion is apparent when he says "I want to do your nails, before someone gets hurt, don't be such a flirt, I love to do those nails." The model has done nothing to convey that she is anything but peeved and yet he thinks her flirtatious. Her nails, as I said, represent her anger,frustration, and real self. Ofcourse, the agent dislikes and wants to change them and the model objects. She's fed up. The clock in her hair represents the time she's lost being an image and not a person. By the end of the video, the spines of her dress have overgrown throughout the whole room, suggesting it's time for a change before everything is consumed by the overgrowth.

    At a point in the video, you can see that she is overcome with a purple bulb dress that seems to almost consume her. I think when the agent hears her shoes and says he loves them, this angers the model and instead of owning even her own movements, she credits her shoes. Ofcourse, at the end she's still seated. Even if women are treated like objects and their image/accessories are treated as human in their place, what lies out of range for the woman who'd walk away? I take this video to be a temporary objection by the model who in the end, will stay seated.

    The drummer is ofcourse, bare, because men are in society, allowing us to see them, the real them. Women must stay shrouded in fashion and accessory to be noticed.

    I'm impressed with the presentation here. I think it goes overboard at times, threatening to convolute itself, but in the end retains its dignity. I'm glad people aren't afraid to make things like this and we aren't afraid to navigate through such a creation.

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    Apr 29, 2009 8:42 PM GMT
    I really like your analysis, GuiltyGear. It would also explain why the man is so fond of the sound of her shoes – the shoes being a symptom of her situation that you describe – but she’s so un-enthused about it.
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    Apr 29, 2009 8:47 PM GMT
    She's just starving for a cheeseburger, that's all.
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    Apr 29, 2009 8:59 PM GMT
    Yup. worth 3 minutes of my valuable net surfing time ;)

    I'm going to say it's a bit too self-consciously weird, but whatever, I like it.
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    Apr 29, 2009 9:08 PM GMT
    Isn't that already a Target ad?
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    Apr 29, 2009 9:20 PM GMT

    Satyricon331 said– but she’s so un-enthused about it.


    She's numb or just maybe, Brittish. lol.

    I like at the start of the song. He says, "I want to style your hair." and she objects while looking at him, but then turns to face the audience and repeats that she does not like her hair neat. She has an unmistakable look of angst on her face when she says this. She clearly has something to say to all of us, not just him. Maybe it seems robotic because two sides of her (the model) and (the individual) are figthing for dominance which makes her read as nutural, especially since it appears the model wins.
    Ofcourse, everyone in the video is a little robotic: the model, the boy drummer, and the agent. I think because they are all meant to be just models: static symbols of a larger group. The model tries to emote, but the agent and boy drummer seem quite content with the arrangement.

    I keep seeing different things that intrigue me. In latter parts of the video, the war becomes more apparent, I think. Like when the model hands her gum to someone, which is like her way of bringing this tantrum to a close and returning to acting like a model. And when the agent and model have sculptures appear in front of them: the agent having a phalic shaped one, and the model having one with a space in the middle of it. This song is clearly addressing gender.

    We have to discuss the bowl of fruit at some point. I definitely have ideas about its meaning.



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    Apr 29, 2009 9:42 PM GMT
    The bowl of fruit appears in the chair when she stands up. Does it represent her as a piece of artwork?

    And why all the quotation marks?
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    Apr 29, 2009 9:54 PM GMT
    What I want to know is why they paint the drummer green?

    (I love I have someone to dissect these things! icon_biggrin.gif)
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    Apr 29, 2009 10:10 PM GMT

    Chaaxwvn saidThe bowl of fruit appears in the chair when she stands up. Does it represent her as a piece of artwork?

    And why all the quotation marks?


    I think the quotation marks represent a lack of communication between the model and the agent. As for the fruit, humerously, I took it to represent the agent being gay which would be the usual expectation. I like what you say about it representing the women as art or even substenance for a fashion hungry society, I'd add.


    Satyricon331 saidWhat I want to know is why they paint the drummer green?

    (I love I have someone to dissect these things! icon_biggrin.gif)


    I THINK...lol, that the drummer is painted green to give his appeal viscosity and allow a transfer. As I said, I think he represents the appeal of men to the model, which is demonstrated when the model is shown rubbing green stuff on her lips and face. She's attempting to taste, understand, absorb, or even consume male appeal. Ofcourse, if you look at her while she does this, it seems to cause discomfort. Perhaps the green color choice communicates her envy of the male. The agent is also shown briefly, and parts of him are also green.

    LOL, I'm sticking with the female vs male viewpoint on this, anyone else have a different take on it?

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    Apr 29, 2009 10:13 PM GMT
    JEE-ZUS !
    The screaming beat beat music made me dive for the mute button.
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    Apr 29, 2009 10:15 PM GMT
    The background's also a green screen, which adds to the psychedelic effects/affects of body parts fusing to the environment.
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    Apr 29, 2009 10:16 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidJEE-ZUS !
    The screaming beat beat music made me dive for the mute button.


    That's teh sound of her shoes. icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 29, 2009 10:25 PM GMT

    Screaming as in GAY, Webster? I beg to differ...this is not a gay video. icon_lol.gif
    Ooops let me try that again....this is not a gay video. Whoa, talk about abstract, I cannot picture a straight man watching this video all the way through.


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    Apr 29, 2009 10:29 PM GMT
    GuiltyGearI cannot picture a straight man watching this video all the way through.


    Hahaha, you'd be surprised. My old (straight) flatmate had kept a My Little Pony from when he was a kid.
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    Apr 29, 2009 10:30 PM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    Screaming as in GAY, Webster? I beg to differ...this is not a gay video. icon_lol.gif
    Ooops let me try that again....this is not a gay video. Whoa, talk about abstract, I cannot picture a straight man watching this video all the way through.


    Lol, it was on a Williamsburg hipster blog, so you should try the straights in Brooklyn.
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    Apr 29, 2009 10:46 PM GMT
    Satyricon331 saidyou should try the straights in Brooklyn.


    tell me about it.
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    Apr 29, 2009 10:46 PM GMT

    Satyricon331 said
    Lol, it was on a Williamsburg hipster blog, so you should try the straights in Brooklyn.


    Oh well that's different. Shame on me, I was thinking about the straights around here when I said that.
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    Apr 29, 2009 11:04 PM GMT
    NYCguy74 said
    Satyricon331 saidyou should try the straights in Brooklyn.


    tell me about it.


    LOL.
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    Apr 30, 2009 12:22 AM GMT

    I was stuck trying to figure this one out for a time. It's meaning is further complicated by an Engrish issue.
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    Apr 30, 2009 12:36 AM GMT
    See now I don't see him as an agent. I see him as a Mike Douglas type of talk show host. She's a famous type of person...
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    Apr 30, 2009 12:42 AM GMT
    The quotes kinda fit in w/the talk show thing, eh? And whats the deal w/the chewing gum???
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    Apr 30, 2009 12:44 AM GMT

    steltom saidSee now I don't see him as an agent. I see him as a Mike Douglas type of talk show host. She's a famous type of person...


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