Freedom of Choice

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    Apr 30, 2009 5:03 AM GMT
    I had a fascinating conversation with a friend about the importance of freedom of choice within Christian morality. It was really most illuminating. I wonder though, where people (Christian or agnostic or otherwise) in fact *do* believe in freedom of choice, so I would like to hear your thoughts!
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    Apr 30, 2009 10:15 PM GMT
    As a committed Christian myself, I do believe in the freedom of choice.
    When God created us, he blessed us with this facility.
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    Apr 30, 2009 10:19 PM GMT
    I don't think freedom of choice is possible in an absolute sense because that would imply the ability to make decisions without influence or dependency from other processes, which seems impossible to me since we are physical beings subject to the laws of the universe for example.

    Free choice in an absolute sense is like an effect happening without cause in my opinion.

    A lot of the actions we commit to everyday are not always by choice either, although we think they are, but if you really think about it, they are not. Like going to the bathroom for example. You might make such a choice, or you might just go do it, it depends on the situation, but most people would argue that every time you go to the bathroom you are making a choice to do so. I don't see how that is possible.

    That idea applies to a lot things, even sexual activity. Do you really choose to have sex every time you do it? I think the honest answer is no because sometimes we just DO things without actually making a decision to do them or not.

    Some people seem to really have a problem with that. I think it's because we would like to think of ourselves as not being a 'slave' to something and in control of everything. It also brings into question responsibility and accountability. If people don't actually make a conscious decision for everything they do then how can they be held accountable for it, like morally for example, or legally?

    I don't think free choice is actually supported in a biblical sense either though, at least in a Christian context. I think the modern christian idea of it is one that is manufactured in order to place moral responsibility on people that otherwise would not be possible without the idea of free choice. It also doesn't seem fair or just for God to send people to hell that weren't given a choice in the matter, does it?


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    May 01, 2009 9:40 AM GMT
    At one level, I tend to think that we do not have freedom of choice. In this sense I agree with Anto.

    Everything just happens. What and how we think and what we do in action is based on conditioning, biological or otherwise.

    The only choice we have is perhaps the choice not to be personally involved in the thought or the action or the fruits of action. I think this is the view expressed in one chapter of the Bhagavad Gita. Deeds are done and thoughts are thought but there is no doer. I agree it is truly a fascinating topic and something that I do not fully understand.