Good interview with former Brigadier General Janis Karpinski about Torture memos...

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    May 01, 2009 4:17 AM GMT

    "Roberts: What do you think should happen as a result of this, particularly to the soldiers who were convicted and put in jail?

    Karpinski: Well, five years. Give them their lives back. Revoke the accusations. Certainly release the last soldier remaining in prison. Release him.

    Roberts: Do they deserve a presidential pardon?

    Karpinski: They do. And they deserve to have all of the convictions overturned. They deserve certainly to have their discharges dishonorable or bad conduct discharges overturned. ...

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    May 01, 2009 3:48 PM GMT
    I agree that the blame should go to the people who MADE these policies that aren't in line with our treaties, but I still feel the soldiers at Abu Ghraib acted in a manner not befitting an officer. They took it from "helping" in the war on terror to making it a joke and turning it into a twisted joy for them. I say let them go, but no pardon!!!!
  • GQjock

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    May 01, 2009 4:07 PM GMT
    While I dont think that the abu ghraib soldiers should be allowed out of jail

    I DO think that the men who gave them permission and allowed this to take place should be seated right next to them

    At this point ANYONE who believes the last administraion did not perpetrate torture and attempt to whitewash it as legal ie: Bybe and Hu
    Has a major screw loose r
  • olden

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    May 01, 2009 9:05 PM GMT
    I was taught that one result of the Nurnberg Trials was that "I was just following orders" is not a defense. We are still hunting down guards from the Nazi concentration camps and returning them to the World Court for trial for Crimes Against Humanity. By application and extention, all those who participated in the torture at Guantanimo and elsewhere at any level are guilty. This tenet also raises the legal question as to the status of participants in nondeclared wars, such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Desert Storm, Vietnam and Korea. A very strong case can be made that participants in a military operation that was not legally declared a war by Congress were acting illegally and are therefore liable for trial and punishment under Crimes Against Humanity. If we as a country wish to project the image of a nation that truly abides by international law, we can not draw a line and say that those on one side are guilty because they gave the orders and those on the other side are not because they were just following orders. They all must be tried, and if convicted, punished.