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    May 02, 2009 10:00 AM GMT
    is it a total workout?
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    May 02, 2009 7:48 PM GMT
    No - not a total workout - but a part of a good, total workout. (Whatever happened to the old Soloflex machines? Anyone know?
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    May 03, 2009 6:57 AM GMT
    As far as working out goes, I am positive that nothing works as well as moving dead weight, such as free weights, or any machine with a weight stack. I feel that BowFlex, the Thigh Master, and that swinging thing that was supposed to imitate cross country skiing, for example, are gimmicks to make working out easier, when, in reality, the easier it is, the less benefit you'll get out of it. Didn't Soloflex have rubber bands in it ? If it didn't use dead weight, then, I'd add that to my list of faux workout equipment.
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    May 03, 2009 1:57 PM GMT
    soloflex, the thigh master, gimmicks...icon_razz.gif
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    May 03, 2009 8:56 PM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidNo - not a total workout - but a part of a good, total workout. (Whatever happened to the old Soloflex machines? Anyone know?


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    Classic Soloflex is no longer made. The Soloflex company still makes exercise equipment. Free weights could be used with a Soloflex but not Bowflex

    Soloflex VS Bowflex
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Soloflex-Vs-Bowflex---The-Battle-of-the-Home-Gyms&id=1544157
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    May 03, 2009 10:25 PM GMT
    It's as good as any othe machines, and it's compact (and easy to set up and take down and store) and well built. Mine is at least 12 years old and still going strong...

    But it should be part of a larger program. Include some running, some body-weight work, maybe some dumbells. One bit advantage of the Bowflex is that you cdan go for max weight without a spotter - so from that point of view, it's very safe.

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    May 03, 2009 10:29 PM GMT
    Over the years, I've seen thousands pieces of exercise equipment sitting on patios and balconies everywhere. None of it is any good if you don't use it. If you use it, to any degree, it's inadequate, and you need to man up and join a real gym. It's that simple.

    It's not even close to being a total workout. Did you even think about it at all?
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    May 03, 2009 10:50 PM GMT
    not a total workout but can be a great workout. I've had the old soloflex for the past 19 years. Still use it and it still works great.
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    May 03, 2009 10:55 PM GMT
    I used a bowflex to get ready for backpacking trips in the mountains growing up in high school. It worked good for that. But I never got ripped or anything.
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    May 03, 2009 10:57 PM GMT
    It depends on your goals. If you want to look like the guys in the Bowflex infomercials, then avoid it at all costs. You can get a lot of basic toning, but it's pretty much useless for putting on any significant muscle mass.
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    May 03, 2009 11:14 PM GMT
    Started using my Bowflex about 7 years ago because i have arthritis in my elbows and free weights just aggrevated it.Love my Bowflex,very well made machine and made some pretty good gains in muscle mass,it works for me,so i guess to each his own.
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    May 03, 2009 11:38 PM GMT
    i am saying this as a beginner and someone who will not join a gym, not yet, until i loose another 50 pounds. I use my bow-flex 3 times a week for about 20 mins, have i noticed a difference, yes. It is helping shape my batman wings. Please note i am someone who has lost almost 100 pounds in the last 3 years, quit smoking and now knows the difference between good and bad fat.

    Do i have a lot to go, yes, but i was just too intimidated to go to the gym. I have only been here for a few weeks, but everyone is welcoming and helpful with limited attitude, unlike the gyms i know.

    That is the reason i got the Bow-flex, it is anonymous, i could get my neighbor to help me so that i used it right and did not have to worry about someone snickering at me while at the gym.

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    May 04, 2009 12:10 AM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite saidIt depends on your goals. If you want to look like the guys in the Bowflex infomercials, then avoid it at all costs. You can get a lot of basic toning, but it's pretty much useless for putting on any significant muscle mass.


    Well put.

    The guys in the commercial for the latest gizmo are well-trained athletes with great genes, juice, diuretics, insulin, pump and pose, perfect lighting, perfect makeup, and the like. They don't look like they do just from a machine. Almost universally, they've been athletes for years, and have spent 100's, or 1000's, of hours in the gym, and are well schooled on how to peak for a photo shoot. It's a science, and they understand it.
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    May 04, 2009 12:14 AM GMT
    toscuba saidi am saying this as a beginner and someone who will not join a gym, not yet, until i loose another 50 pounds. I use my bow-flex 3 times a week for about 20 mins, have i noticed a difference, yes. It is helping shape my batman wings. Please note i am someone who has lost almost 100 pounds in the last 3 years, quit smoking and now knows the difference between good and bad fat.

    Do i have a lot to go, yes, but i was just too intimidated to go to the gym. I have only been here for a few weeks, but everyone is welcoming and helpful with limited attitude, unlike the gyms i know.

    That is the reason i got the Bow-flex, it is anonymous, i could get my neighbor to help me so that i used it right and did not have to worry about someone snickering at me while at the gym.

    novice beginner



    Here's my suggestion for you, being a grown man of 43.

    Walk into, through, and beyond your comfort zone. You're being a sissy. Anything worth having is worth doing well.

    You'll see much better results if you just jump in and get it done at the gym.

    While your desire to change your behavior is certainly commendable, I think you'll see better results in a different environment. Folks at the gym will be supportive IF they see you're making an effort.

    Every day, the U.S. military shows young men to do things they thought they could never do. In your case, it's a very tiny thing: going to the gym. Understand, your worst enemy is within. Take charge, walk into, through, and beyond to a better place.
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    May 04, 2009 1:10 AM GMT
    The payments on that clothes hanger would buy lot of gym membership.Throw in a few trainer sessions too.

    There be just as many eyeballs on you from that gadget as there will be at the gym. ZERO. Until you look like the model that is. Really. There is no reason to be shy. You are the only one who will even notice that you are there.
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    May 04, 2009 4:01 AM GMT
    I have an original bowflex 2000x. It is over 20 years old and still works perfectly. Despite what others have said on here, it does/did help me put on muscle mass.
    Muscles don't know where the resistance is coming from: be it lifting dumbells, an exercise band, a bowflex or some other machine. All they know is you are asking them to exert force against/and overcome said resistance. If the demand is great enough, they will get damaged, repair, and grow (hypertrophy)--provided you are feeding them.

    The only drawback I have with my bowflex is that I outgrew it and they changed the machine so dramatically from the original, that getting new power rods was not plausible. The newer machines offer a much greater weight capacity and larger variety of exercises. Is it a total workout? Yes. Can you get a total workout without it and just use body weight exercises? Yes. Will you get bodybuilder huge or look like TJ Hoban or Greg Plitt using it? Probably not.
    If spending your money on a device will motivate you to work out then I say go for it--it will be an expensive lesson (clothes rack) to learn if you don't use it.
    BTW, I actually like the new revolution they are offering.
  • shoelessj

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    May 04, 2009 7:09 AM GMT
    have never used either, bow or solo flex, but man, their ads are hot.

    (long ago, before you could find shirtless guys with the click of a mouse or before i knew where to go for gay mags/papers or anything, i loved watching those soloflex ads on TV and in magazines.)
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    May 04, 2009 4:37 PM GMT
    Toscuba:

    What you’ve done is pretty amazing! From my point of view, a guy who can drop that much weight is right in there with someone who’s just set a great PR in a marathon after several years of preparation! Few people have the guts to make as big a life change as you have - or stick with it. My hat is off to you!

    As to gyms - don’t worry. You’ll find in any public gym that most people there are far from magazine models or world-class ripped. No one will notice you - and you’ll get a lot more out of it if you engage a trainer, at least at first (and possibly avoid injury as well: doing weights right is both safer and more effective/efficient). If some moron does snicker or put you down - well, he’s got the problem, not you.

    Let me wish you the very best of luck and success - and the hat stays off!

    Nat
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    May 04, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
    "have never used either, bow or solo flex, but man, their ads are hot. "

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