"They kill people like us," says gay Iraqi

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    May 04, 2009 7:30 PM GMT
    And this is what Bush spent a trillion of our US dollars on. They sure embraced democracy as predicted -- Republican style.

    http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/05/04/1921277.aspx

    From the article: "Moyad said that unfortunately things have actually gotten worse than it was during Saddam’s reign. 'I was imprisoned because I was gay, but there was a court, a trial, and the judge let me loose at the time; now they kill people like us.'"

    A court, a trial, a judge? What are those? Totally superfluous concepts under the Bush/Cheney view of the world. And now that we've taught those lessons to the Iraqis, we may never be able to reverse things at this point. We'll be gone soon, and this is the legacy we'll have left behind for gay Iraqis. Chalk another victory up to the US right-wing.
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    May 04, 2009 10:00 PM GMT
    Did hatreds of homosexuals exist in Iraq pre - invasion?
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    May 05, 2009 12:16 AM GMT
    Trance24 saidDid hatreds of homosexuals exist in Iraq pre - invasion?

    Yes, because homosexuality is forbidden under Islamic law. But not to the extent Iraqi gays are experiencing today, after the overthrow of Saddam, according to this article.
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    May 05, 2009 12:22 AM GMT
    is there anyone they don't hate?
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    May 05, 2009 12:41 AM GMT
    First of all if you're getting your info from MSNBC I feel sorry for you. Because none of the shit they report is EVER accurate when it comes to anything especially what's going on in Iraq. And will tell you that right now, because when I was over there and I saw reports on MSNBC about the war when I was home, or what my family or friend's who've watched reports, tell me what they were saying, I'd be like huh? that's not going on, or why didn't they talk about that, or this, why did they say this or that, when I know for sure its not true. MSNBC has an agenda, and lets their ideology run them, that network is only for wacky liberals who share their views, or mental disorder I should say.

    Second it hasn't gotten anymore worse than it always has been. One of my best friends who left that country in the late 90's who is gay, was always talking about how hard it is for them there. Its a hell of a lot worse in Iran though. The only area in that part of the world that is more tolerant of homosexuals, is Israel.

    Things have calmed down quite a bit, and has even changed in Iraq, and or are the road to change. It aint gonna be anything overnight, and it won't be easy, things are stiff difficult, not as much as they were when Saddam and his goons were in power. However the hatred for homosexuals remains the same, that is an ancient cultural AND religious thing, and will probably be the very last thing to change in the future if at all.

    There are many religious extreme conservatives there, just like we have here,and other parts of the world who see the changes being made, especially for women, and they despise it, and don't want their country to be like any other country that allows women to do this or have that, and most of all allows gays to do as they do.
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    May 05, 2009 12:49 AM GMT
    Rad_d81 saidFirst of all if you're getting your info from MSNBC I feel sorry for you. Because none of the shit they report is EVER accurate when it comes to anything... MSNBC has an agenda, and lets their ideology run them, that network is only for wacky liberals who share their views, or mental disorder I should say.

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    May 05, 2009 12:55 AM GMT
    Rad_d81 said
    Second it hasn't gotten anymore worse than it always has been.


    So which hasn't changed, the gays having trials and being let go or gays being killed by their officials?

    By the way, MSNBC never said that the conditions for gays were worse since after Saddam, that was a quote from someone they interviewed, so I don't believe that you can say they were inaccurate in this instance.