Maine Rep. Opposes Gay Marriage Despite Lesbian Daughter

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    May 06, 2009 10:04 PM GMT
    Wow... this is amazing! Who elected this woman to office?



    Maine Rep. Discloses Wrenching "Choice"

    During the debate over marriage-equality legislation in Maine, Rep. Sheryl Briggs took the floor to express her opposition to same-sex marriage.

    She also revealed that her daughter is a lesbian.

    Briggs said that her daughter has been out to her for 15 years, and that she still regards her daughter’s sexual orientation as a choice. The representative tearfully announced that she made her own difficult choice to oppose marriage equality.

    “Blame it on my upbringing, or the good book, but the deepest part of my soul tells me that this is wrong,” Briggs said. “I can’t change how I feel. These feelings run very deep. I have kept this secret within me for 15 years, but because of who I am, and where I am today, and as a member of this legislative body, ethically, it is my duty, and my responsibility, to publicly say to my daughter, that I do not support her way of life."

    ”I have no choice. I have to hit that button,” Briggs said.


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    May 06, 2009 10:38 PM GMT
    This woman is facing a very difficult situation. She is grieving over her daughter's sexual orientation. Unfortunately, I don't know whether she has other children or if her daughter is her only child, and if that is the case, then her being lesbian would make things much worse for the mother.
    As whether her daughter being gay is a matter of choice, or whether she was born that way, is still debated among the medics, according to the Wikipedia. Some doctors promote the idea that it's down to choice, others say it is a genetical quirk.
    However, this mother obviously had a Christian upbringing, and grew up with the conviction that homosexuality and same sex marriage is wrong, and if she entered the political arena saying that gay marriage is fine, she would not be true to herself, and would be deceiving her voters. Despite the ill feeling among gays this issue would raise, it is much better for everyone to know her stance when she throws her hat into the arena.
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    May 06, 2009 10:40 PM GMT
    well, fuck her.
  • Anto

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    May 06, 2009 11:01 PM GMT
    NotThatOld,
    "..and if she entered the political arena saying that gay marriage is fine, she would not be true to herself, and would be deceiving her voters. Despite the ill feeling among gays this issue would raise, it is much better for everyone to know her stance when she throws her hat into the arena."

    She could have said she disagreed with gay marriage morally and religiously while still voting to pass it as a matter of equal rights despite her disagreement with it. What is she going to do next? Vote down the protection of religions other than her own because they are a choice and go against her own beliefs?

    As a legislative member she should be upholding the principles of the constitution, not injecting her personal beliefs and grievances into public law.

  • Anto

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    May 06, 2009 11:10 PM GMT
    I'm so tired of hearing people use the idea of 'choice' or 'behavior' to invalidate equal rights for homosexuals.

    I don't say it's invalid for a Christian to have his or her religious practice protected because they chose to be a Christian..
    I don't say it's invalid for an interracial couple to be married because they chose to be in such a relationship as opposed to a same-race one..
    If homosexuality is indeed a choice, then wouldn't that make being heterosexual a choice? Better not treat heterosexual relationships as being valid then, after all, it's a choice, and who ever heard of protecting behavior anyway?..

    Honestly, it seems like a lot of people never think about things.
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    May 06, 2009 11:21 PM GMT
    NotThatOld saidThis woman is facing a very difficult situation. She is grieving over her daughter's sexual orientation. Unfortunately, I don't know whether she has other children or if her daughter is her only child, and if that is the case, then her being lesbian would make things much worse for the mother.
    As whether her daughter being gay is a matter of choice, or whether she was born that way, is still debated among the medics, according to the Wikipedia. Some doctors promote the idea that it's down to choice, others say it is a genetical quirk.
    However, this mother obviously had a Christian upbringing, and grew up with the conviction that homosexuality and same sex marriage is wrong, and if she entered the political arena saying that gay marriage is fine, she would not be true to herself, and would be deceiving her voters. Despite the ill feeling among gays this issue would raise, it is much better for everyone to know her stance when she throws her hat into the arena.


    First, Do not use wikipedia to research such an issue as whether or not being gay is a choice; that is not a good source. Start there... but never cite it or believe what Wiki says...

    Second, those doctors you speak of, who say being gay is a choice, are for the most part biased--many are connected with Focus on the Family and other anti-gay religious organizations.

    Would you believe Exxon-Mobil if they said, "Fossil fuels are not causing climate change"? My point is... those with preconcieved notions of right and wrong--or those who are known to already have a bias--tend to manipulate data and studies to make the outcome favorable in their eyes. It is easy to manipulate data, evidence, and conclusions when you are not a part of a well-respected peer-reviewed journal/association.

    Finally, I am more disgusted by this women because of her story about her daughter. She stood up there and used her own daughter to further her viewpoint/cause when her own daughter most likely has a different viewpoint. This women has had 15 years to look at both sides of the issue. I bet she is quite biased. It is sad when you trust a book--written 2000+ years ago by men we don't know... which cannot be proven--rather than trust your own daughter who has probably tried many times to get you to understand.

    That bothered me more than her position--How does her daughter feel right now?
  • KissTheSky

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    May 06, 2009 11:30 PM GMT
    Not That Old:
    The politician from Maine has known about her daughter's orientation for 15 years. The time for her hissyfits, self-pity and "grieving" has long past.
    The American Constitution guarantees equal treatment for all citizens under the law. If that violates someone's religion (or their misreading of the Bible), well, that's too bad. America is not a theocracy. People looking to live in one should look into Iran or Saudi Arabia -- two places where they treat gay people like shit, in addition to women and religious minorities.
    Is being gay a choice? Maybe, maybe not. But bigotry is certainly a choice.
    It's so sad this woman chose her bigotry over her own daughter.
    But the good news about the politician from Maine is, THE BITCH LOST. icon_biggrin.gif
  • handsoffire

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    May 06, 2009 11:32 PM GMT
    COLORED TEXT GOES HERE I deal with this issue every time I go home. My Dad is a Southern Bapt minister, and my mom is both a preachers wife (in a small town) and is also a ministers daughter. Both parents have multiple degrees and both can't seem to get past this program. My parents love me, I know that. That said, my parents have also had this conversation with me. I love my parents back and now offer them the choice of keeping said opinions to themselves when I am home and visiting. It's occasionally awkward. Now that my folks are aware that I'm not their only gay son things have become more complex. So I'm supportive of growth on their part and continue to push their boundaries as they push mine. So here's hoping for growth on their part and that of folks who have gay kids.
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    May 06, 2009 11:58 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]KissTheSky said[/cite]The American Constitution guarantees equal treatment for all citizens under the law. If that violates someone's religion (or their misreading of the Bible), well, that's too bad. America is not a theocracy. People looking to live in one should look into Iran or Saudi Arabia -- two places where they treat gay people like shit, in addition to women and religious minorities.

    This is the point. It´s not relevant what the woman´s religious belief is. She should not be using her position to impose religious morality on a secular state. I fear that the relationship with her daughter may be bust as well. I would probably stop speaking to my mother if she pulled that sort of stunt (which she wouldn´t). I suspect Mom may not be invited to daughter´s wedding now.
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    May 07, 2009 12:12 AM GMT
    Anto Said

    "As a legislative member she should be upholding the principles of the constitution, not injecting her personal beliefs and grievances into public law."


    "I'm so tired of hearing people use the idea of 'choice' or 'behavior' to invalidate equal rights for homosexuals.

    I don't say it's invalid for a Christian to have his or her religious practice protected because they chose to be a Christian..
    I don't say it's invalid for an interracial couple to be married because they chose to be in such a relationship as opposed to a same-race one..
    If homosexuality is indeed a choice, then wouldn't that make being heterosexual a choice? Better not treat heterosexual relationships as being valid then, after all, it's a choice, and who ever heard of protecting behavior anyway?..

    Honestly, it seems like a lot of people never think about things"

    Well said Anto
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    May 07, 2009 5:58 AM GMT
    Hmmm....sounds a bit like Newt Gingrich's situation when he was Speaker of the House when Candace came out.
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    May 07, 2009 6:33 AM GMT
    NotThatOld saidThis woman is facing a very difficult situation. She is grieving over her daughter's sexual orientation. Unfortunately, I don't know whether she has other children or if her daughter is her only child, and if that is the case, then her being lesbian would make things much worse for the mother.
    As whether her daughter being gay is a matter of choice, or whether she was born that way, is still debated among the medics, according to the Wikipedia. Some doctors promote the idea that it's down to choice, others say it is a genetical quirk.
    However, this mother obviously had a Christian upbringing, and grew up with the conviction that homosexuality and same sex marriage is wrong, and if she entered the political arena saying that gay marriage is fine, she would not be true to herself, and would be deceiving her voters. Despite the ill feeling among gays this issue would raise, it is much better for everyone to know her stance when she throws her hat into the arena.


    What kind of parent votes to have their daughter treated like a second class citizen?
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    May 07, 2009 10:14 PM GMT
    There are some good points here.
    A politician who uses her daughter's sexual orientation to further her own cause is wrong.
    I never thought of that when I wrote my post above.
    Kiss the Sky says that she has lost the vote.
    Serves her right.
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    May 07, 2009 10:34 PM GMT
    "She is grieving over her daughter's sexual orientation. "

    She ought to get a sexual orientation of her own and let her grown daughter deal with hers. I agree that she is grieving, but there is something fundamentally dysfunctional with such a myopic focus on the sex lives of others, including those of your grown children, to the point that you'd seek revenge at the sacrifice of fairness.
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    May 07, 2009 10:38 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidwell, fuck her.


    Not even with your dick!