Lunesta?

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    Nov 07, 2007 3:46 AM GMT
    I'm a slave to sleep aids when I travel. Can't sleep more than three hours a night without a PAM med to send me off to dreamland. Now, Lunesta. Anyone else have some strategies for getting rest when on the road?
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    Nov 07, 2007 4:41 AM GMT
    I just broke my addiction to Lunesta as I finish my cancer therapy.

    5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan) which supports the production of serotonin is what I use now. It got me off of the Lunesta in just a few nights.

    I also use GABA (gamma-amino butyric acid) to promote calm and relaxtation. It inhibits the firing of neurons and calms the stressed out mind. This I use anytime of the day to calm me ...it has a surprising effect of making me feel more energetic and happy.
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    Nov 07, 2007 4:46 AM GMT
    i'm surprise u dont' get that bitter taste from Lunesta? i had ambient over 1 yr and had depression from it. took a leave just ot quit it! so my 2cent is take whateverr to sleep for travel only, but don't ever get use to any one pill too long.
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    Nov 07, 2007 6:34 AM GMT
    Lunesta did some crazy things to my aldosterone/vasopressin levels . I'll never take the stuff again. I still have issues with frequent urinations. I'd have to get up 2 or 3 times a night to pee. It kinda defeated the point of taking the damn pill if you can't even sleep through the night. I use melatonin now. In fact, I just popped two about 30 min. ago, and now I feel my bed a-callin'

    nite...
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    Nov 07, 2007 3:50 PM GMT
    used to take xanax, then ambien, tried lunesta - now, I go to Costco and buy Melatonin, works well for me, and as you can see, I tried Rx drugs, so I'm happy to not need them, give it a try.
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    Nov 07, 2007 4:54 PM GMT
    Traveling usually means going to a city. That means I usually just work for two or three days without sleep, until exhaustion overcomes the effects of the noise. I've tried messing around with melatonin, but it does nothing for me. Teleconference or videoconference seems so much more efficient than travel anyway.
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    Nov 08, 2007 1:00 AM GMT
    Melatonin doesn't work for me at all, unfortunately. And Lunesta does leave that sort of bitter taste, but it's better than four hours of sleep a night. icon_smile.gif

    I think the best cure is not to travel, when possible, and thanks for your feedback!
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    Nov 13, 2007 4:54 AM GMT
    5-HTP is awesome as a sleep aid. Being natural, non-addictive, and effective in a lot of people. They also sell serotonin as a supplement that is fairly inexpensive, though the research on that is mixed.

    Phosphatidylserine is an amino acid which works well with people who are stressed and anxious about sleep, which sounds like your situation.

    Wash it all down with Chamomile or mint tea and you should be on your way.

    I personally try to not take medication though so I am biased.
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    Nov 21, 2007 6:07 AM GMT
    May I recommend the small purple pill: Poobalax?
    Picture yourself arms spread wide on a wind swept hill.
    Now, don't you feel better? Ask your doctor.
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    Nov 21, 2007 12:23 PM GMT
    HEY MR. needsacureforsomething-


    What you really have is more of a circadian rythym problem than classic insomnia. You don't have a regular bed time and you don't have a regular 24 hour solar day when you bounce across time zones. Your hypothalamus probably has no idea what time it is anymore.

    Lunesta may not be your drug. Ramelteon (Rozerem) is a pharmacologically novel prescription sleep aid hot from Japan. It is a melatoninergic agent. It makes OTC melatonin look like kool aid. It is more specifically suited to circadian disruptions than a sedative. It resets your "clock".

    A lot of people from northern latitudes (and people with Seasonal Affective Disorder) use blue light phototherapy to maintain sleep patterns. It is also recommended for jet lag.

    As far as general insomnia goes the usual drugs that the asshole doctors throw around are sedative hypnotics, which are usually just benzodiazepines or (very rarely) barbiturates (GABA-ergic drugs). There is a littany of other unrelated drugs that cause sedation as well: every antipsychotic, anxiolytic, beta blocking antihypertensive, anticonvulsant, narcotic, and antihistamine. Lunesta is just another sedative/hypnotic, just like Ambien.

    Try the blue light- the worst it can do to you is cost you money. I was skeptical, but it helps me a lot when the seasons change and my bipolar disorder starts cycling. It will JOLT your brain awake in the morning. You just sit there for 10-15 minutes and let it shine on you indirectly as you check your email on your laptop and drink your coffee. I have never experienced anything like it before. It's just a light but it is a very narrow frequency of light. Animals seem to be weirdly attracted to the light as well. My cat loves it. Mine is a "go-lite" from Apollo Health. It's travel sized and comes with a case.

    Siete Azaharres is a traditional Mexican herb tea blend that I have tried. It has a modest kick and its tasty. It has passionflower, valerian, linden, manzanilla (chamomile) and some other stuff in it. I can always find it at the yerberias and Mexican markets.

    I've also tried supplemental GABA and 5-HTP and it really does nothing for me. Just gimme my damn dirty drugs!

    Nietzsche recommends: "No small art is it to sleep: it is necessary for that purpose to be awake all day. Ten times a day must thou overcome thyself; that causeth wholesome weariness, and is poppy to the soul".