Obama sends handwritten letter to Ousted Gay Soldier.

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    May 10, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/08/obama-dont-ask-dont-tell/

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    May 10, 2009 4:46 PM GMT
    Well, that puts Congress and the Dems on notice....and they better deliver. I dont think there will be a problem. Anti-gay bias is on the slippery slope in America and will only pick up momentum! ... icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 10, 2009 4:52 PM GMT


    That letter will be worth a lot one day. Your Prez is truly remarkable.


    How different our two countries are, though...


    http://www.samesexmarriage.ca/advocacy/mil190105.htm



    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/print/CTVNews/20060630/rcmp_wedding_060630/20060630/?hub=Canada&subhub=PrintStory


    ....both of us have worn ourselves out trying to figure out WHY there is this difference.....
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    May 10, 2009 5:09 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    That letter will be worth a lot one day. Your Prez is truly remarkable.


    How different our two countries are, though...


    http://www.samesexmarriage.ca/advocacy/mil190105.htm



    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/print/CTVNews/20060630/rcmp_wedding_060630/20060630/?hub=Canada&subhub=PrintStory


    ....both of us have worn ourselves out trying to figure out WHY there is this difference.....


    It´s religion, surely. The UK, which is largely atheist or liberal christian, has full equality between same sex partnerships and "Opposite marriage" (with different names, but I don´t care about that: I care about the substance not the spin). We have gay adoption, equal age of consent, anti-discrimination laws, the freedom to serve equally in the military, the right to change gender legally and more. In the UK there is no point in appealing to "what the bible says". Practially no-one cares.

    Contrast the USA where even some people on RJ are against gay marriage because "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve".

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    May 10, 2009 5:09 PM GMT
    I'll give Obama credit for doing something right when I see a bill start moving its way through Congress with Obama's voiced support behind it.

    I'm admittedly becoming jaded with Obama already. It's still early in his term, I realize that, but many of the things he's done or not done have really put me on edge about him. I am certainly not satisfied yet with our president.
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    May 10, 2009 5:21 PM GMT


    Lostboy said, "It´s religion, surely"

    I hear what you're saying about atheists and liberal christians, so in that respect, I'd venture it's not religion but the followers that are the problem and their combined influence on government.
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    May 10, 2009 7:51 PM GMT
    from where I sit the USA debate is about conservative christians of various stripes trying to enshrine their personal religious beliefs about marriage in law whilst pretending that they are not doing so.
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    May 10, 2009 7:57 PM GMT
    That is very cool. Does it pay her bills and provide her the security of a job? I still have faith in him though...
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    May 10, 2009 10:32 PM GMT
    I'm pretty sure it is because of the religious people here. Religious people moved here to avoid persecution. Those would have been the people hard-core enough not to convert to save their lives. So when the come over here, well, that is a lot of work. Then there were the two great awakenings...

    Now we are here, don't think there will be another great awakening.
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    May 10, 2009 11:37 PM GMT
    Wow....And I still say D.O.M.A.'s repeal won't be too far behind this as well. icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 10, 2009 11:49 PM GMT
    I think President Obama is on the right track.

    Bush panderd on the fears, ignorance, bigotry, and votes, of the Religious Right, which many Americans have had quite enough of.

    Next, we should remove the tax exempt statuses for churches / cults / false belief systems.
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    May 11, 2009 12:15 AM GMT
    I hope that after the repeal of DADT, that some day, there will be a change of discharge status from Other than Honorable, Less than Honorable, or Dishonorable to Honorable for anyone who has ever been discharged for homosexuality, pre- and post DADT.
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    May 11, 2009 12:28 AM GMT
    armydude- An outstanding idea!!! Time to right some obvious wrongs. Good job!icon_wink.gif
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    May 12, 2009 1:26 AM GMT
    I didn't know about this until i saw it on the posts...

    DADT is stupid on so many levels. i've had one friend dishonorably discharged after being 'accused (not proven)' of being gay in the marines and they tried saying they could do it simply because the Marines is a different world.

    at the same time, i have a friend VERY high up in the Air Force that a few years back got sent back into active duty overseas. he's been waiting for 3 years now to be with his partner again, but now that DADT has the chance to be repealed he's reconsidered his retirement. eventhough he loves his partner VERY much, if DADT was repealed, to have an openly gay member so high up with such an amazing record would be amazing; and he is considering not retiring to help set a good positive example.

    Im speechless of the sacrifice gay military personnel make on a daily basis, and truly Thankful.
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    May 12, 2009 1:34 AM GMT
    doesn't he have better things to do?

    like "CHANGE"
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    May 12, 2009 1:39 AM GMT
    AF24 saiddoesn't he have better things to do?

    like "CHANGE"


    If this doesn't qualify as 'change', I sure as hell don't know what does...
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    May 12, 2009 1:46 AM GMT
    He has the authority to end all investigations based on DADT with a stroke of his pen, but he has yet to do so. It does not require any Congressional action. Obviously, its not to his political advantage to do it right now. So be it. He will spend his significant political captial as he wants to. But don't expect me to hand him a ringing endorsement.
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    May 12, 2009 2:12 AM GMT
    Damn. That just...

    I'm basking.
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    May 12, 2009 2:24 AM GMT
    I'm glad to see that Obama is taking some steps toward meeting his goals for our community.