How Fox News is rediculous...and more of my ranting :-)

  • jdsnipaz

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    May 11, 2009 2:30 AM GMT
    So someone in the house turned the TV to Fox News and a commercial was aired regarding gay marriages. The speaker suggested that legalizing gay marriages was somehow going to lead to other alternative forms of marriage, such as triad marriages, which to me is another unjustified claim based on more Republican induced, bible-thumping fear (not all Reps but a vast majority).

    Is it wrong for two adults who love each other to get married? I refuse to tell any couple that they can't get married solely based on how I feel about their relationship. That's absurd and frankly none of my business anyway. And I'm sure that American families won't crash and burn, and that a huge influx of staight individuals will of a sudden turn gay, and that society's teens won't become "brain-washed" into becoming gay.

    And one more point, a more of a "separation of Church and State" issue. I was debating the issue yesterday. The opposition claimed that the moral framework of our society was based on Judeo-Christian ideals. The Declaration of Independence mentions that "...that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator...unalienable Rights...Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness...etc.." The far-Right appears to be correct in saying that the fore fathers adopted a moral code based on the temperal religious attitudes of their time, but is it indeed based on the Judeo-Christain ideals of today's far-Right? In the document, it never fully defines what those morals are, nor does it explicitly state that our sense of morality is based on Christian doctrine. They left the specifics of these morals up to interpretation. If I'm not mistaken, Franklin wasn't a proclaimed Christian. He was more a deist, where God is a kind of distant, apathetic Creator of the universe. I'm confident that other contemporaries of his time believed in other religions and some may have been agnostic or atheist.

    Here's a hypothetical for you...What if the founders of this country uniformly possessed the same moral fabric that the far-Right claims. Does that necessarily mean that their "sense of morality" is always correct or always beneficial for our society? Consider issues dealing with slavery and women's right to vote. I'm not confident that when Jefferson wrote "all Men are created equal" that he was thinking about the rights of enslaved Africans or perhaps even cared for the political will of women. As society progresses, it seems that our moral codes and social norms occasionally evolve so that they accomodate the needs of the up and rising social class of people. It's like history is repeating itself, only the group that is targeted varies. If this is true, then why not recognize this and instead of stand in the way of progess, help it to become realized across the nation-so we can all relish the God given Rights of "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness?"
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    May 12, 2009 10:31 PM GMT
    Until the dinosaurs are out of congress, good luck getting anything passed that doesnt meet their "Leave it to Beaver" views. I think money talks on a lot of points. The biggest monetary contributors makes the way. Look at the Christian Coaliton. They have tons of pull. Lots of congressmen are just puppets for their financial supporters and roll with the majority so they are not ostracized. Its just like Microsoft in small, third world countries. Microsoft controls the government cause they basically support them and make more money than the whole country. I think it is medieval for our government to say some people can get married and others cant. We are always getting on countries about democracy and yet we lack it in a lot of ways.
  • Webster666

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    May 13, 2009 2:24 AM GMT
    Things are not always what they seem to be.
    Just because it's called "Fox News," doesn't mean that it contains actual news.

    Is there any cheese in "Cheez Whiz ?"
    Is there any whipped cream in "Cool Whip ?"
    How much chicken is there in a can of Campbell's chicken soup ?

    It isn't news.
    It's an entertainment show, filled with radical right wing republican religious nut propoganda..........................................................and lies.
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    May 13, 2009 2:29 AM GMT
    Likewise all the bs that Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddyke spew over at MSNBC is over the top propaganda.
  • Tiller66

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    May 13, 2009 2:38 AM GMT
    Well not that I like to agree with anything that opponets say but it is a valid point.But the way to solve it is write a new civil marriage law.That civil marriage is only between two people that are of the age of concent for the state they marry in but this would have to be a federal law to work.The reason I say civil marriage it shows that thier is no change in what religous marriage is but in the eyes of the law it still gives the same rights.
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    May 13, 2009 2:43 AM GMT
    The same ad was shown on CNN earlier. What does any of this have to do with Fox News?
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    May 13, 2009 5:18 AM GMT
    Fear
    Uncertainty
    Doubt

    Take a weak mind. Expose that weak mind to false belief systems. Keep doing it for years. Feed that weak mind propaganda (FUD). What comes out? A Right Wing Republican God-Fearing (or pick your false belief system) Christian.

    What makes believers of false belief systems so dangerous is that they believe in their false belief systems and they believe they can do know wrong as long as they embrace the doctrine of their false belief system.
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    May 13, 2009 5:43 AM GMT
    dnth8dask8rs saidLikewise all the bs that Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddyke spew over at MSNBC is over the top propaganda.

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    May 13, 2009 6:42 AM GMT
    Pinny said66381d1194987405-searching-salvage-title

    Well, for that you need fuel and someone with the brains to rub two sticks together. I see we've got the fuel.
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    May 13, 2009 6:54 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    Pinny said66381d1194987405-searching-salvage-title

    Well, for that you need fuel and someone with the brains to rub two sticks together. I see we've got the fuel.



    LMAO....Touche'....
  • GQjock

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    May 13, 2009 10:47 AM GMT
    dnth8dask8rs saidLikewise all the bs that Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddyke spew over at MSNBC is over the top propaganda.


    Oh Really......
    Let me ask you then
    There was a whole movie about the "unbalanced" and biased journalism over there at FOX
    Why don't you go wand watch Keith and Rachel and bring me back ONE thing that was journalistically incorrect

    I won't be holdin' my breath
  • jdsnipaz

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    May 13, 2009 11:38 AM GMT
    StoneColdChad84 saidThe same ad was shown on CNN earlier. What does any of this have to do with Fox News?


    My bad, didn't know that. Either way it seems like a rediculous question to ask. icon_wink.gif
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    May 13, 2009 1:06 PM GMT
    dnth8dask8rs saidLikewise all the bs that Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddyke spew over at MSNBC is over the top propaganda.


    and you *look* so normal and nice.

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    May 13, 2009 2:31 PM GMT
    dnth8dask8rs saidLikewise all the bs that Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddyke spew over at MSNBC is over the top propaganda.


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    Oh, and fuck you, homophobe.
  • jdsnipaz

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    May 18, 2009 10:37 AM GMT
    dnth8dask8rs saidLikewise all the bs that Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddyke spew over at MSNBC is over the top propaganda.


    I slightly agree with you, however- "Maddyke?" A little harsh eh?

    What network has the least amount of bias? Whichever it is I'll try to watch more of that icon_smile.gif
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    May 19, 2009 2:42 AM GMT
    Maddyke?!

    WTF is wrong with you people. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 19, 2009 2:45 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    GQjock said I won't be holdin' my breath

    Don't waste your time. They all follow the dictum of their (late) Dear Leader, Ronald Reagan, who said "Facts are stupid things."

    Of course they think so, because facts have a way of always contradicting their horseshit.



    no!! ronald reagan said that???? when?
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    May 19, 2009 2:48 AM GMT
    i have an idea... since the troll has unleashed a potential zero value phenomenon, and since i'd rather not see it, i'll leave a manamana here for whomever to hand out officially once the time is right (since i don't plan on looking at obvious troll's toxic b.s. anymore on this thread).

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    May 19, 2009 2:55 AM GMT
    i suggest a thread title change:

    how this random marriage commercial (which has nothing to do with fox news) is rediculous..and more of my somewhat-coherant ranting and mis-spellings...

    my 2 cents, nothing personal.
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    May 19, 2009 3:00 AM GMT
    lol...funny how when someone disagrees with you, they MUST be a troll.
  • jdsnipaz

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    May 20, 2009 12:29 PM GMT
    AF24 saidi suggest a thread title change:

    how this random marriage commercial (which has nothing to do with fox news) is rediculous..and more of my somewhat-coherant ranting and mis-spellings...

    my 2 cents, nothing personal.


    LOL I'm sure you got the gist of what I was saying.
  • jdsnipaz

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    May 20, 2009 12:31 PM GMT
    AF24 saidi suggest a thread title change:

    how this random marriage commercial (which has nothing to do with fox news) is rediculous..and more of my somewhat-coherant ranting and mis-spellings...

    my 2 cents, nothing personal.


    LOL "coherant" - I'm glad I'm not the only one who misspells things..