iran before islamic revolution

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    May 11, 2009 9:40 AM GMT
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    May 11, 2009 11:52 AM GMT
    Yep. It was going somewhere... then boom, ratatatata, the shah is dead, all women must now not show their faces in public so they will not tempt the menfolk into raping them.
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    May 11, 2009 12:02 PM GMT
    I've heard warnings that Pakistan is heading down the same road...as Iran prior to the fall of the Shaw...... and I've heard that assertion refuted.

    There is a big difference... thats nuclear weapons.
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    May 11, 2009 2:50 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan> I've heard warnings that Pakistan is heading down the same road...as Iran prior to the fall of the Shaw...... and I've heard that assertion refuted. There is a big difference... thats nuclear weapons.

    In that case, each might be moving in the other's direction (in the bad way) and in a few years there will be no difference.
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    May 11, 2009 3:09 PM GMT
    Persepolis
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    May 11, 2009 4:59 PM GMT
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    i watched that cartoon film. icon_cry.gif
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    May 11, 2009 5:55 PM GMT
    Uh, or how about how Khatami was getting things back on track, and America had the support of the progressives, and then we declared them evil, and the conservatives got control and now we have Ahmedetceteraijad. Thanks Georgy!
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    May 11, 2009 5:57 PM GMT
    Wait a minute, I don't remember the shah being killed. I thought he was in exile.

    And, the U.S. had a role in ousting the Prime Minister in 1953--who had disagreements with the Shah--creating a more autocratic political environment and increasing anti-U.S. sentiment.
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    May 11, 2009 5:58 PM GMT
    It's frightening what havoc a few fools can cause.
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    May 11, 2009 6:06 PM GMT
    I presume you're talking about the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company.
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    May 11, 2009 6:13 PM GMT
    sickothesame> how about how Khatami was getting things back on track, and America had the support of the progressives, and then we declared them evil, and the conservatives got control and now we have Ahmedetceteraijad.

    Keep in mind that the President is sub-servient to the Supreme Commander... which is now Ayatollah Khamenei.
    Khatami was President for 8 years. Did anything change during that time?
    He actually presided over much of the 18 years of illegal nuclear enrichment by Iran.
    But we are to believe he lost re-election because the Bush administration included Iran in the "axis of evil"?

    Let's root for Mir-Hossein Mousavi in next month's election.
    But will anything really change or is it just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic?

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    May 11, 2009 7:27 PM GMT
    sickothesame saidUh, or how about how Khatami was getting things back on track, and America had the support of the progressives, and then we declared them evil, and the conservatives got control and now we have Ahmedetceteraijad. Thanks Georgy!


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    May 11, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
    you say you want a revolution?
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    May 11, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidWait a minute, I don't remember the shah being killed. I thought he was in exile.

    And, the U.S. had a role in ousting the Prime Minister in 1953--who had disagreements with the Shah--creating a more autocratic political environment and increasing anti-U.S. sentiment.


    Shush it was a figure of speech. ;)

    Shah mat - The Shah/King is dead, the arabic origin (Persian actually) of the English 'Checkmate'.
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    May 11, 2009 8:44 PM GMT
    Might be Arabic (since Hebrew has "maht" for dead, too, and isn't related to Farsi).
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    May 11, 2009 9:12 PM GMT
    Caesarea4 saidsickothesame> how about how Khatami was getting things back on track, and America had the support of the progressives, and then we declared them evil, and the conservatives got control and now we have Ahmedetceteraijad.

    Keep in mind that the President is sub-servient to the Supreme Commander... which is now Ayatollah Khamenei.
    Khatami was President for 8 years. Did anything change during that time?
    He actually presided over much of the 18 years of illegal nuclear enrichment by Iran.
    But we are to believe he lost re-election because the Bush administration included Iran in the "axis of evil"?

    Let's root for Mir-Hossein Mousavi in next month's election.
    But will anything really change or is it just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic?



    Cool. Nice to see someone with a nice understanding of Iranian politics icon_smile.gif

    I hear Rafsanjani won re-election as chairman of the Assembly of Experts. I have to wonder if he is eyeing becomming Rahbar someday. While he is a hardcore conservative he certainly seems more pragmatic than the current Rahbar and more likely to tolerate moderate social and perhaps political reforms, though due to his corrupt relationship with the Iranian business community I'm not sure he'd be interested in much in the way of economic reforms, which will be necessary for any true lasting positive change in Iran and the entire region for that matter.
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    May 11, 2009 10:09 PM GMT
    HeyJude saidyou say you want a revolution?


    Well you know
    We all want to change the world
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    May 12, 2009 3:05 AM GMT
    Rafsanjani's election and re-election (in March) as chairman was a blow to Ahmadinejad.
    Let's hope that is an indicator for the forthcoming election.
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    May 12, 2009 3:07 AM GMT
    turk saidi watched that cartoon film. icon_cry.gif

    Why sad? That movie was amazing.
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    May 12, 2009 7:06 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidI've heard warnings that Pakistan is heading down the same road...as Iran prior to the fall of the Shaw...... and I've heard that assertion refuted.

    There is a big difference... thats nuclear weapons.



    Yes Hndsm, you heard WRONG, Pakistan will NEVER be fundamentalist, anal, theocracy like Iran....btw the religous party gets only 5-10% votes/approval(dont believe the bs media, things are WAY blown out of proportion)(yes there are extremists in the nwfp bordering/infiltrating through Afghanistan but are too small in #s to be of any major threat)......I have been there MANY times(Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad....fabulous citiesicon_wink.gif ) and I can assure everyone that it is headed towards being a more progressive/liberal/modern society as far as the youth is concerned( wich make up the majority)......I hope there is another(non violent) revolution in Iran and it goes back to the glory daysicon_biggrin.gif
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    May 12, 2009 8:07 AM GMT
    DCEric said
    HeyJude saidyou say you want a revolution?


    Well you know
    We all want to change the world






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