transphobia on realjock: something in denmark smells of fish...

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    May 12, 2009 9:36 PM GMT
    today there have been a few threads that have asked us our preferences on scents, clothing, and disney princesses.

    no one is presuming that you're transgender just because you're gay. the questions are asked in a spirit of GAY fun (one of the many perks of being gay, n'est-ce pas?), and many of the responses betray transphobia.

    whether you like it or not, the T in lgbt has a place in our community (probably the biggest place, since "those people" are the ones on the front lines fighting for YOUR rights these past 40 years), and i personally feel that gay men unleashing transphobia is a hypocritical mess, given our hope of acceptance as the G in lgbt within the larger heteronormative culture.

    if someone asks you which disney princess you want to be, rather than acting like a royal bitch, why not simply play along or stay away?
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    May 12, 2009 9:38 PM GMT
    Wait, hold up now...

    You can choose not to be a totally bitch??

    Since when??

    I think your lying *nodds* icon_razz.gif
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    May 12, 2009 9:40 PM GMT
    I smell waffles.
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    May 12, 2009 9:41 PM GMT
    Sweetie, it's "you're", as in "you are lying".

    tsk tsk.

    Totally agree DJ. It's getting like Mean Girls round here.
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    May 12, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
    i never played barbie, but loves the thought of playing one. That's one reason why I'm gay.
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    May 12, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
    redheadguy saidSweetie, it's "you're", as in "you are lying".

    tsk tsk.

    Totally agree DJ. It's getting like Mean Girls round here.

    bitch come here.. I want to slap your freckled, plaster white, pommy arse around! icon_twisted.gif
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    May 12, 2009 9:48 PM GMT
    redheadguy saidSweetie, it's "you're", as in "you are lying".

    tsk tsk.

    Totally agree DJ. It's getting like Mean Girls round here.


    i don't understand why you're correcting me. where did i misspell you're? but yes, it is.

    and look here tanker, i embrace my inner bitch (well, not always so inner), and i would still be maleficent... so mnah! icon_biggrin.gif xoxo
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    May 12, 2009 9:50 PM GMT
    I was correcting lilgirltanker.

    fetch.
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    May 12, 2009 9:50 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidi don't understand why you're correcting me. where did i misspell you're? but yes, it is.

    and look here tanker, i embrace my inner bitch (well, not always so inner), and i would still be maleficent... so mnah! icon_biggrin.gif xoxo

    that pom, was correcting me sweety... I mean.. gawd sweety wake up and smell the error correction fluid now.. mmmkay

    eh.. kisses and stuff
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    May 12, 2009 9:51 PM GMT
    muah
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    May 12, 2009 9:52 PM GMT
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  • calibro

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    May 12, 2009 10:33 PM GMT
    I totally agree with Jack. I am not sure when the idea that being a "jock" became synonymous with all things "masculine." I think being a man means feeling comfortable in your skin regardless of who you are, and that knowing sports or how to fix a car doesn't make you a guy. This website is about gay fitness health & life, or at least that's what the banner claims. Nowhere does it advocate this site being a forum for "straight-acting" guys who won't discuss anything even remotely "feminine." No one is asking you to comment on a forum post if you don't agree with the topic of conversation, and I seriously question those who feel compelled to respond abusively as having something in them that is threatened by another guy able to emote his thoughts and feelings without concern for stereotypes.
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    May 12, 2009 11:21 PM GMT
    On a related point

    I visited the LGBT center last Friday, something I don't approve of and would never choose to spend my time for many reason.

    But I was with my friend who was doing in interview thing where he had to answer 3 questions. I was waiting in the lobby. On the wall was a big array of posters with a title Womyn of color or something similar. I remarked to my friend

    "Oh that's the new PC version of women, I didn't realize they had embodied it officially, do you think it's really necessary"

    I got from one lesbian, a slight pursing of her lips in disapproval and from another a blatant look of complete disgust and disregard for anything I might think. I promptly left.

    I think that if I want I can just be Gay, and judge everyone else on a person by person basis. I mean if you are gay does not mean you're required or even obliged to align yourself with others of alternative sexuality or even mainstream gay culture if you choose not to.

    I'm all for unity but I'm not going to embody something I don't feel represents me just because a bunch of people in a similar position say I should. I'll respect it along with there opinions as long as they respect mine, which in my experience is not all that common


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    May 12, 2009 11:24 PM GMT
    had you truly respected it, you wouldn't have felt the need to voice your comment and you wouldn't be unapproved of going to the GLBT center.
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    May 12, 2009 11:26 PM GMT
    So respecting something means unequivocal acceptance and never ever questioning it....

    I didn't even have to directly express an opinion of my own to invite harsh criticism......The mere proposition of an alternative viewpoint is enough to make some people assume I'm part of the problem and not the solution
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    May 12, 2009 11:29 PM GMT
    luisluz saidi never played barbie, but loves the thought of playing one. That's one reason why I'm gay.


    Flase. The only reason your gay is because you like men. That is the only thing GAY about you. Everything else is just your personality.

    Thats what many people are confused about when it comes to being GAY. icon_evil.gif

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    May 12, 2009 11:34 PM GMT
    AMT87 saidSo respecting something means unequivocal acceptance and never ever questioning it....

    I didn't even have to directly express an opinion of my own to invite harsh criticism......The mere proposition of an alternative viewpoint is enough to make some people assume I'm part of the problem and not the solution

    No, but sometimes being respectful is about keeping your mouth shut.

    Your allowed your opinion, but it doesn't mean you have to make sure everyone knows about it.
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    May 12, 2009 11:34 PM GMT
    I wonder how the site theme of "Real Jock" got lost in the noise.
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    May 12, 2009 11:38 PM GMT
    Please tell one how the Ts have been fighting for my rights as a pure homosexual, and male over the past 40 years?

    Sorry but as a pure homosexual, and male. I was born both, just as I was born a true blue Aussie, and an Aristocrat. I don't see how a T. belongs in the GBL? We were born they are created by medication and medical science.

    Homosexuality does not come under the mental health act anymore.

    Sure if you have a women who has had herself made up to look like a male, and she dates women, she is still in a lesbian relationship, and not a heterosexual one. But many lesbians take on a male female role. I have 2 husbands and none of them are my wife, nor am I theirs.

    Sorry just because medical science can make you look like a male, dose not make you one. How can you spend 20 / 30 years as a female, then one day you are a male?
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    May 12, 2009 11:38 PM GMT
    "Theme"...LOL...there's more than one way to be a wanker.


    Miao, Chucky, miao.
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    May 12, 2009 11:39 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidI wonder how the site theme of "Real Jock" got lost in the noise.

    *puts on a baseball uniform*

    OMG I'm Fabulously Jockish (I almost wrote jockitch)
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    May 12, 2009 11:41 PM GMT
    Well first of all I am by the constitution both allowed to have an opinion and express it, hence freedom of speech

    and secondly I didn't address either of those people, I addressed and sought the opinion of a friend, they were eavesdropping on what was essentially a closed discussion between me and him .
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    May 12, 2009 11:41 PM GMT
    lilTanker said
    chuckystud saidI wonder how the site theme of "Real Jock" got lost in the noise.

    *puts on a baseball uniform*

    OMG I'm Fabulously Jockish (I almost wrote jockitch)

    OMG! I so like knew all along that we were one and the same. Jockitch..OMG!
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    May 12, 2009 11:43 PM GMT
    Oxus said
    OMG I so like knew all along that we were one and the same. Jockitch..OMG!
    Who the hell are you?
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    May 12, 2009 11:43 PM GMT
    ah..

    Picture 1

    Disney_Heroes___Prince_Phillip_by_davidk

    or

    Picture 2.

    disney-princess.gif

    I have no problem with transvestites/transgendered (I don´t "get" it, but other people don´t "get" being gay, so I´m feel honoured to extend the same understanding towards the T of LGBT as I expect others to extend towards the G).

    But seriously: picture 1 or 2? Just cos I don´t buy into a particular "sub culture" doesn´t mean I have "problems" with my identity. Srsly.