L-Glutamine With Protein vs. Creatine? Which is better?

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    May 16, 2009 3:49 AM GMT
    Any ideas on what is the healthiest way to get larger muscles? I have been working out for over 3 years drinking a protein drink after every workout and have not noticed results that I would have expected by now. Which is a better way to go? L-Glutamine or Creatine. I know they work in two totally different ways, but which is most effective? Also, is one quite dangerous and not typically recommended? If there are any other options, please let me know!
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    May 16, 2009 5:10 AM GMT
    It takes more than protein powder and supplements to gain mass.

    How's your diet? Are you eating enough food? What's your workout routine like?
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    May 16, 2009 5:14 AM GMT
    Check out the two links below: part one and two on the topic of glutamine.

    http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_supplements/glutamine_destroying_the_dogma_part_1&cr=

    http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_supplements/glutamine_destroying_the_dogma_part_2&cr=

    Funny, I just met an 18 year old man at the gym this week who is 6 ft, 175 lbs and consumes (in his estimation) 4,000 calories a day (and he's very lean). His plan is to be 190 by the end of the year and I believe he'll do it. He's cleaned up his act regarding junk food, sticking with the top 6 best foods. And he works really hard in the gym. In my mind, and I told him this, he gets it. But he's also starved for information on what us old guys have already figured out.

    Thomas, you're coming up to that age where your body will kick into gear everything it needs to grow if you give it reason to.
  • Webster666

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    May 16, 2009 6:26 AM GMT
    I've never tried Glutamine, but I'm a strong advocate of Creatine. I don't think that it gives me stronger muscles, but it does give me a bigger pump. I started out using only dumbbells and cable exercises.

    The real answer to your question is:
    1) Learn proper form for each muscle building exercise.
    2) Set a schedule for working out, and stick to it.
    3) Exercise half your body parts on Monday and again on Thursday, and the other half on Tuesday and again on Friday.
    4) For each exercise, do a medium weight warm-up set, then do 2 additional sets with as much weight as you can control (and lift) for 8 reps. You have to keep pushing yourself to lift heavier and heavier weights.
    5) Push yourself. I started out being skinny.
    6) You've got to want it badly enough to do the hard work.
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    May 16, 2009 6:36 AM GMT
    Try food.

    Creatine will help to volumize and carb-load, but, if you research it a bit more, you'll find there are much better methods to glycogen load. (CPK synthesis aside.)

    The single most important thing you can do to make gains is to EAT.

    Moderate carbs, moderate fats, moderate to high protein along with HIIT to maintain and improve your cardiac threshold along with resistance training, and rest.

    Calories, are by far, and way above, the way to get bigger.

    As the son of a cattle rancher in North Central Nebraska, I grew up eating meat, potatoes, vegetables, and NON-fried, NON-sugary foods, and plenty of it. I weighed 175 at 12% at 5'5" at 17, and had the fifth highest strength index in my high school.

    EAT.
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    May 16, 2009 11:04 AM GMT
    Creatine is far more effective than glutamine for building muscle. Creatine has been shown in multiple scientific studies that it builds muscle. In fact the National Institute of Health agrees that it will aid in muscle development...
    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/patient-creatine.html

    Glutamine may be depleted in endurance athletes ( ultra-marathon runners ) and maybe be of benefit for these individuals. It is doubtful that you would get glutamine deficient going to the gym. In spite of this recommendation, most people that use glutamine are like you and meicon_lol.gif

    I found out that when I take glutamine and creatine together, I get an upset stomach so I stopped the glutamine

    Creatine may cause problems in individuals with kidney disease. If you read the article from the NIH there are a few other potential problems mentioned that you need to be aware of when taking creatine.

    Exercise, Diet and Adequate Rest are far more important in building muscle than are supplements.
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    May 16, 2009 11:07 AM GMT
    knee can explain CPK for those who want to know......
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    May 16, 2009 11:36 AM GMT
    Before you even begin to worry about which supplement is going to work better for you, get your diet down first. Find your BMR, and then go from there.

    Like chuckystud said, "Calories, are by far, and way above, the way to get bigger."

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    May 16, 2009 10:37 PM GMT
    Thanks everyone!!! So, during my 3 years of working out, I have been on an ultra healthy diet with lots of meats, greens, water and basically no junk food or drink at all. I think that I am going to give L-Glutamine a try first with my protein shake after workouts and if that does not have faster results, I'll switch to creatine. Or, would you recommend trying these in the reverse order? In other words, try creatine, then L-Glutamine?
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    May 16, 2009 11:32 PM GMT
    If you believe that a supplement is needed, go with creatine first. Creatine has at least two benefits. First it increases the amount of energy available for anaerobic activities like weight lifting. Creatine also has anabolic properties. There is less evidence for the efficacy of glutamine...before taking any supplements make sure you are familiar with side effects and drug interactions.
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    May 17, 2009 6:11 PM GMT
    thomaswalto saidThanks everyone!!! So, during my 3 years of working out, I have been on an ultra healthy diet with lots of meats, greens, water and basically no junk food or drink at all. I think that I am going to give L-Glutamine a try first with my protein shake after workouts and if that does not have faster results, I'll switch to creatine. Or, would you recommend trying these in the reverse order? In other words, try creatine, then L-Glutamine?


    Dude...3 years of doing what you thought was right; still, 165#. EAT more. Creatine, and L-glutamine isn't going to make much difference at all.... EAT.

    It's not in the supplements. It's in the calories. You have to eat to make gains. That's the truth.

    You want results? Get yourself some meat and potatoes and some fruit and veggies. A post workout protein drink is a joke. EAT.

    You wanna' get that protein from poultry, or fish, fine, or even whey...great...but, you need carbs (fast ones post workout and slow ones the rest of the time) and you need to eat more than some fairy who dreams of being a supermodel. EAT.