Gay Communal Living

  • TamarackJock

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    May 19, 2009 11:25 PM GMT
    Thinking about moving to or starting a gay commune. Does anybody know of one or have any advice? Thanks

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    May 20, 2009 1:01 AM GMT
    You mean like a kibbutz?
  • metta

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    May 20, 2009 1:03 AM GMT
    Would that be like a gay co-op?

    or is that a religious thing?



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  • Timbales

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    May 20, 2009 1:04 AM GMT
    that could be really interesting
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    May 20, 2009 1:05 AM GMT
    Wasn't sure what that is so I Googled.
    One of the first hits is this guy also looking for nothing too specific in communal arrangements.


    "I'm looking for something along these lines:

    1. A lot of hot gay guys 18-40.

    2. No fatties! No ex-prisoners! No pedophiles! No drama! No bitchy femmes (who want everything to be handed & done for them).

    3. A lot of fag hags to worship us, and compliment how hot we are everyday.
    (just kidding)

    4. A lot of sex. Safe sex only. Testing that's done regularly.

    5. No kids. No females."


    I know this isn't very helpful, but maybe it'll bump the thread to the main page.

    Seriously though, the concept is interesting and I hope it generates some discussion...I'd wager Red Vespa even has a related story or two.
  • Timbales

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    May 20, 2009 1:09 AM GMT
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  • GQjock

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    May 20, 2009 11:00 AM GMT
    Didn't know they had such a thing
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    May 20, 2009 11:19 AM GMT
    Google the Radical Faeries.
  • zakariahzol

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    May 20, 2009 11:49 AM GMT
    Gay version of the film "The Beach" with Leonardo De Carpio. Well, I been to Koh Phi Phi. There thousand of island , in South East Asia, where we can start one. Hopefully , it dont turn into a tragedy like in the film.
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    May 20, 2009 11:52 AM GMT
    i wanna join icon_smile.gif
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    May 20, 2009 11:59 AM GMT
    Interesting concept. I've thought of this possibility once and awhile but can't seem to get past the thought of it turning into some gay polygamist orgy. I realize this might just be a weakness on my part so I'm open to other possibilities. What do you have in mind??
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    May 20, 2009 12:02 PM GMT
    There's also the Intentional Communities website:

    http://www.ic.org/
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    May 20, 2009 1:35 PM GMT
    I've often thought about living in a totally gay community, and I nearly do already, here in Wilton Manors, Florida. But, and I hate to be negative, I've always rejected the idea in the end as being impractical & unworkable.

    My assumption is that anything involving nothing but gays would soon devolve into chaos. It's the "herding cats" syndrome, everyone with a private agenda, everyone putting themselves before community, no sense of common goals & objectives, no concept of personal sacrifice for the greater good, which is mandatory in any communal living arrangement. Everyone a prima donna, no one a worker bee.

    Sad to say, we gays need collars on us, also like cats, and a straight world to keep us in line (though not oppress us). Left to our own devices we always fail miserably, and when we do succeed it's within a greater framework of order and structure, created by straights.

    Admit it: we need each other, gays & straights. A commune of nothing but gays would be doomed to failure.
  • zakariahzol

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    May 20, 2009 2:13 PM GMT
    Straight need gays. That new to me. Most straight people dont want anything to do with gays
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    May 20, 2009 2:30 PM GMT
    zakariahzol saidStraight need gays. That new to me. Most straight people dont want anything to do with gays

    You are correct. Many, if not most straights do not want to admit any dependence or reliance upon gays, any need for us at all.

    But we do in fact provide blessings of culture & art, that help to define us all as humans. And more, we have given gifts of every kind, perhaps because we are not burdened with the mundane, free to create & invent, our children the products of our own hands.

    A man once said to me: "I'm not gay, I'm enchanted." And his silly, flippant remark has affected me as much as all the writings of all the philosophers I have ever read, of all the brilliant people I have met in my long life.

    We are indeed enchanted, and that is our place in life. Whether we are fully recognized & appreciated at this moment in history is open to debate, but such is our role. Nature has placed us here; our fellow humans will accept or reject us as they will.
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    May 20, 2009 2:53 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa said, we gays need collars on us


    Ohhh.... That kind of commune... Structure. Discipline.

    Red_Vespa said
    A commune of nothing but gays would be doomed to failure.


    Seriously though, there were lots and lots of communes started in the 60's and 70's. I know some people who grew up in them. But I don't know of any that really lasted for very long. Maybe an all-gay one would be slightly more doomed or at least have a higher turnover rate than the rest.


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    May 20, 2009 2:59 PM GMT
    mindgarden said
    Red_Vespa said, we gays need collars on us


    Ohhh.... That kind of commune... Structure. Discipline.

    Perhaps not as rigid as you imply, and "collars" is of course metaphorical. But certainly some kind of structure is always necessary within human communities.

    I personally prefer a rather lax structure, but that's dependent upon individuals who are themselves self-disciplined and orderly. The more people tend toward anarchy, the more structure is required, or chaos ensues, yes?