Global Elite Meet in Secret

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    May 23, 2009 1:40 AM GMT
    This last weekend (May 14-17), the highly secretive Bilderberg Group met in secret in Greece for a three day conference on world affairs.

    The Bilderberg Group was founded in 1954 by Joseph Retinger, a European politician and leading advocate of European unification, who persuaded Belgian Prime Minister Paul Van Zeeland and Dutch Prince Bernhard to form an international conference. The guest list consisted of European royalty, CEOs, politicians, high level civil servants, academics and bankers from Western Europe and North America: "The idea was to create an informal network of influential people who could consult each other privately and confidentially." Further: "The group decided that it would invite 100 of the most powerful people in Europe and North America every year to meet behind closed doors at a different five-star resort. The group stresses secrecy: What's said at a Bilderberg conference stays at a Bilderberg conference."
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/bilderberg-group/

    The Ottawa Citizen referred to the Group as a "secretive global think-tank" of the world's 100 to 140 most powerful people:
    http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=ff614eb8-02cc-41a3-a42d-30642def1421&k=62840

    Regular participants include David Rockefeller, the Queen of the Netherlands (who is the largest shareholder in Royal Dutch Shell), Henry Kissinger, the CEOs of Royal Dutch Shell, Pepsi, and Executives from banks such as Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, Lazard Freres, TD Bank, Royal Bank of Scotland, and many others. Also present are the major central bankers of the world, including the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Chairman of the European Central Bank, etc. Also present are the heads of the major think tanks, primarily those in the United States, such as the Council on Foreign Relations, Brookings Institution, American Enterprise Institute, as well as the heads of the World Bank, IMF and NATO.

    This years meeting in Greece included the regular participants, as well as an assortment of individuals from the Obama administration. Among these were: Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner (former President of the New York Federal Reserve), Lawrence Summers, Director of the White House's National Economic Council, former Treasury Secretary in the Clinton administration, former President of Harvard University, former Chief Economist of the World Bank; Paul Volcker, former Governor of the Federal Reserve System and Chair of Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board; Robert Zoellick, former Chairman of Goldman Sachs and current President of the World Bank; were Keith B. Alexander, a Lieutenant General of U.S. Army and Director of the National Security Agency, the massive spying agency of the United States; Richard Holbrooke, the Obama administration’s special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan; General James Jones, United States National Security Advisor; Dennis Ross, special advisor for the Persian Gulf and Southwest Asia to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton; David Patraeus, Commander of CENTCOM, (U.S. Central Command, in the Middle East); and Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg.
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jep_nbEq1srzJHFQ8fRGNQO3P38QD987H3200
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1085589.html
    http://www.mrt.com.mk/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6112&Itemid=28

    Virtually NO mainstream media covered the conference, which is not unusual. However, it is curious considering that common participants are the CEO of the Washington Post Company, journalists from the Financial Times, the Economist, Wall Street Journal, and other major media company executives.
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    May 23, 2009 1:41 AM GMT
    Independent Bilderberg investigative reporters who track Bilderberg and purportedly have sources inside the meetings who leak information to them have reported on the topics of discussion and agenda as primarily the global financial crisis (considering those that caused it were all present at the meeting, as well as those responsible for solving it, who are, in fact, the same people). Reports stated that Bilderberg was discussing whether or not to have the world plunge into a long, drawn out deep recession lasting decades, or a short and brutal depression. Apparently, they decided on the latter, and discussed how the current stock market upsurge is not long lasting, but that they will continue to promote the idea that the economy is on the upturn before it plunges to levels never reached before. They further discussed the potential destruction of the US dollar, as well as recommendations for creating a Global Treasury Department (or World Central Bank):
    http://www.prweb.com/releases/Bilderberg_Group_Meeting/Daniel_Estulin/prweb2453144.htm
    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bilderberg_2009_179.html
    http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/6807/53/

    Bilderberg DOES wield influence in the world.

    As the Washington Post reported, Bill Clinton was brought to Bilderberg while Governor of Arkansas, where he was groomed for the Presidency.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jordan012798.htm

    It was at the 2004 Bilderberg conference that John Edwards was selected to be John Kerry's presidential running mate after delivering a speech that impressed the Bilderbergers:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/07/us/2004-election-process-aide-selection-running-mate-recalls-we-never-got-short.html?sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

    Tony Blair attended before he became Prime Minister, as did Canadian Prime Ministers Pierre Trudeau, Paul Martin, Jean Chretien, and Stephen Harper.
    http://xiaodongpeople.blogspot.com/2006/06/secretive-powerful-bilderberg-group.html

    One mainstream media publication that discussed this year's meeting was the Guardian newspaper in the UK, who sent a reporter to cover the conference. His first reports were mocking and joking about conspiracy theorists and the mystery surrounding the meetings. After three days of being harassed by Greek police, being arrested three times and being followed and threatened, he finished his reports saying:

    "Publicity is pure poison to the world's global power elite. So we should all turn up to its next annual meeting with a few more tubs of the stuff," and "If the mainstream press refuses to give proper coverage to this massive annual event, then interested citizens will have to: a people's media." Through his coverage of the weekend event and information regarding Bilderberg, he pronounced that, "we must fight, fight, fight, now – right now, this second, with every cubic inch of our souls."
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/series/charlie-skeltons-bilderberg-files

    Regardless if you believe the independent reports of what was discussed at the Bilderberg meeting, which in the past have been oddly and surprisingly accurate, the fact that the world's 130 most powerful people meet in secret every year and discuss the most important issues in the world, without a word being uttered in the mainstream media, is truly a prime example of how truly anti-democratic the world's elite are, and is an assault against any semblance of democratic governance.
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    May 23, 2009 1:52 AM GMT
    Oh how Bond is that!!!!!!! icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 23, 2009 2:18 AM GMT
    Oh no, the Illuminati are surfacing again! Next the OP will warn us of their sinister alliance with the Knights Templar, the Rosicrucians, and the Elders of Zion to achieve World Domination!
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    May 23, 2009 2:36 AM GMT
    oh we went from bond to lame in one post... fab
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    May 23, 2009 7:50 AM GMT
    TexDef07 saidOh no, the Illuminati are surfacing again! Next the OP will warn us of their sinister alliance with the Knights Templar, the Rosicrucians, and the Elders of Zion to achieve World Domination!


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    May 23, 2009 9:46 AM GMT
    I don't know anything about the Knights Templar, the Rosicrucians, or the Elders of Zion, but what I do know is the Global Political Economy, which is my major, with a minor in history.

    The funny thing about studying history, is that no matter what region of the world you study, or what period in time, there are these key players called "elites". They have always existed and they still do, believe it or not.

    In studying Global Political Economy, you learn who these elites are in today's world, as well as through much of recent human history. No one doubts the existence of what is termed "globalization", it seems naive to imagine that with globalization, the world would lack a global elite.

    Perhaps it would be beneficial to read the books they write, pay attention to what they say, and study what they do... and how they do it.

    The Bilderberg Group is very real, their existence is not denied. So why does mentioning a meeting that DID take place, in secret, with the most powerful people in the world, make me a nut?

    I bet if I posted about the World Economic Forum, I would be a crazy person too, right?
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    May 23, 2009 11:02 AM GMT
    MeOhMy said So why does mentioning a meeting that DID take place, in secret, with the most powerful people in the world, make me a nut?


    Perhaps because the very idea of a group of powerful people wielding their influence over much of the world is very unsettling.

    People are cognitive misers; it is much easier to dismiss your theory (despite the fact that you've included citations to back it up) rather than spend time considering it might actually be true.

    However, I think it is very interesting icon_biggrin.gif Thanks for posting
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    May 23, 2009 11:30 AM GMT
    Here's my take based only on the information supplied by MeOhMy. The group is influential but not powerful. The individual members are powerful back home, but the group is like a think tank. They just discuss issues. Any conclusions they reach are recommendations only.

    I'm betting John Edwards hasn't been at any of their recent meetings.

    I'm also betting they would rather stop meeting than let the event turn into a circus like the G20 meetings.
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    May 23, 2009 1:27 PM GMT
    First of all, saying that it would turn into a circus like the G20 if it was public is missing the point. These meetings shouldnt be taking place at all. Where is the voice of the people?

    and "influential" is a synonym for "powerful", and they are, in fact, extremely powerful. any meaningful study of the group, and i honestly did not have the room to post it all, would show and prove that they are, in fact, THE most powerful organization in the world, and have great influence. Not total, but greater than any other organization.

    Mainstream political science academic journals have, in the past few years, begun to acknowledge this, as much more information regarding the group has come to light.
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    May 23, 2009 2:06 PM GMT



    We think you're very very sane, MeOhMy. We're aware of this group and think they are powerful all right. Look how the banks round the world have managed to gobble our taxes and then lend us back our tax money with interest.

    Multinationals, more and more, answer to no one.


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    May 23, 2009 4:37 PM GMT
    MeOhMy saidFirst of all, saying that it would turn into a circus like the G20 if it was public is missing the point. These meetings shouldnt be taking place at all. Where is the voice of the people?

    and "influential" is a synonym for "powerful", and they are, in fact, extremely powerful. any meaningful study of the group, and i honestly did not have the room to post it all, would show and prove that they are, in fact, THE most powerful organization in the world, and have great influence. Not total, but greater than any other organization.

    Mainstream political science academic journals have, in the past few years, begun to acknowledge this, as much more information regarding the group has come to light.


    You can't stop it. :/

    Human populations are like organisms. The larger they are, the more necessary it is for a central nervous system.

    I'm slightly anarchist (as well as an idealist, and horribly horribly utopian), but I'm also for globalization, and I do know that in terms of a global population, anarchy simply won't work. Who's to say that them meeting is actually beneficial to the world community as a whole? It enables them to steer what would have been a jumble of ideals into something that would benefit humanity, and not just a single nation or a single corporation or whatnot.

    But yeah, it depends on what drives them. If it's greed or a lust for power, I'd be VERY worried indeed.
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    May 23, 2009 5:40 PM GMT
    It can't even be compared to a G-20 summit.. I'm sorry but the minute the CEO of Royal Dutch Shell, Xerox and their board members and other corporations were at the meetings it stopped being anything positive for the greater good of man kind. Companies have no right to talk about our freedoms and rights at top secret meetings with our ELECTED officials..

    I mean did anyone see this in the news? Don't you wonder why? It's kind of strange the top 150 most powerful people in the world just met in Athens, Greece last weekend and not one peep. No front page splash across a major newspaper that I know of..

    Oh right because they own and control the media too icon_biggrin.gif

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    May 23, 2009 9:59 PM GMT
    This group and these individuals steer the world to their own selfish desires of money and power. They are literally the people that print the currencies of the world, and thus, control the value of a given currency. Money is not the end goal, it is simply the means to an end, which is, above all else... POWER.

    At the 1973 meeting, as recent documents have revealed, a 400% increase in the price of oil was discussed, and meeting participants were creating a “plan [on] how to manage the about-to-be-created flood of oil dollars." This meeting took place 5 months before the Yom Kippur War, which was the trigger for the oil embargo and resulting oil price hikes of that year.

    Participants at the meeting included the heads of Royal Dutch Shell, British Petroleum, Total S.A., ENI, Exxon, as well as Baron Edmond de Rothschild, Henry Kissinger, and David Rockefeller.

    [See: William Engdahl, A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order]

    Henry Kissinger, who was National Security Adviser and Secretary of State at the time of the war, played a key part. According to John Loftus, former US Justice investigator and Nazi hunter, who gained access to classified intelligence documents and interviewed dozens of former intelligence officials, wrote in his book, The Secret War Against the Jews: "The US intelligence community had advanced warning of the impending attack days ahead of it, yet Kissinger sat on the information and prevented it from reaching the President. He warned Israel hours before the attack, yet said they must not make the first move, and could not even “mobilize until the Arabs invaded” if Israel wanted American support."

    The Saudi OPEC minister at the time later told the Guardian newspaper that, “I am 100 per cent sure that the Americans were behind the increase in the price of oil. The oil companies were in real trouble at that time, they had borrowed a lot of money and they needed a high oil price to save them,” and that when he went to visit the Shah of Iran, he was told that it was Henry Kissinger who wanted “a higher price” for oil.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2001/jan/14/globalrecession.oilandpetrol

    In the 1960s, the developing world underwent a decade of development, with industry in Africa growing rapidly following decolonization. After the oil crisis, growth slowed and declined. The process of petrodollar recycling emerged, where the oil producing states invested their surplus profits into western banks, which in turn lent the money to the developing world, which was now in need of loans to finance industrialization through debt. However, it was American and Western European banks that were partaking in and profiting from this business.

    1973 was the same year that Zbigniew Brzezinski and David Rockefeller created the Trilateral Commission, whose purpose was to coordinate the political economy between North America, Western Europe, and Japan - formed as a sister organization of the Bilderberg Group, which had refused Japan to enter its ranks.

    In 1977, Jimmy Carter became President, and had appointed within his administration over two-dozen members of the Trilateral Commission to his cabinet, including Zbigniew Brzezinski as National Security Adviser, David Rockefeller’s long-time associate Paul Volcker as Chairman of the Federal Reserve System and Jimmy Carter himself.

    When the Iranian Revolution occurred, another spike in oil prices followed, and the reaction of the Fed this time around was different from the previous one. What changed was that as a result of the 1971 ending of the dollar-gold standard, and the 1973 petrodollar recycling, the US dollar became paramount in the world, and held sway over the world economy. This power was exclusively placed in the Fed.

    Paul Volcker, who previously played a pivotal role in 1971 in organizing the end of the Bretton Woods System with dropping the gold standard, and had before then worked as a special assistant to David Rockefeller at Chase Manhattan Bank, to whom he owed his career, decided to drastically raise interest rates. This caused a recession in the US, increased the cost of international money, and sent interest rates on international loans from 2% to 18% in the early 1980s, increasing the charges for developing nations to pay, while not being able to export into the industrialized west which was in recession. Ultimately, this led to the 1980s debt crisis, which precipitated the World Bank and IMF Structural Adjustment Programs (SAPs), which reorganized indebted nations under the neoliberal structure tested in Chile in 1973. The SAPs essentially enslaved the developing nations of the world to the International Financial Institutions (IFIs) and the western corporations and banks that controlled them. The 1980s was thus the lost decade of development.

    This was not an example of steering the world in the direction of the betterment for the whole of society and its people, or even the powerful countries within it, as the world plunged into a recession, and the vast majority of the world's population suffered, while the major banks of Western Europe and North America profited immensely, and they managed to re-take the global south (recently de-colonized countries) in a neo-colonial grip; economic colonialism.
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    May 23, 2009 10:24 PM GMT
    The Bilderberg Group is scary, but like all things human I believe they are destined for faliure. The only place their greed and pride can lead them is to a grave, and beyond that a bath in some hot oil and a turn on the rack.

    Have you seen the film Endgame?
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    May 23, 2009 10:31 PM GMT
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    May 23, 2009 10:31 PM GMT
    Some quotes from elites to show where they are coming from:

    Katherine Graham, former CEO of the Washington Post and longtime Bilderberg member, once said: "We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know, and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows."
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/teach/hiddenlife/hand1.html

    "The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties."
    New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

    "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."
    A letter written by FDR to Colonel House, November 21st, l933

    David Rockefeller wrote in his book, Memoirs (page 404-405):

    "For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
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    May 23, 2009 10:35 PM GMT
    Miasma saidThe Bilderberg Group is scary, but like all things human I believe they are destined for faliure. The only place their greed and pride can lead them is to a grave, and beyond that a bath in some hot oil and a turn on the rack.

    Have you seen the film Endgame?


    I agree, they are doomed to fail.

    In fact, some reports from their meeting last weekend indicated that they are even fearful and worried that they may have over-stepped themselves in creating the financial crisis, and that they fear they may actually lose their grip on power.

    And yes, i have seen that movie.
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    May 23, 2009 10:52 PM GMT
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    Miasma saidThe Bilderberg Group is scary, but like all things human I believe they are destined for faliure. The only place their greed and pride can lead them is to a grave, and beyond that a bath in some hot oil and a turn on the rack.

    Have you seen the film Endgame?


    I agree, they are doomed to fail.

    In fact, some reports from their meeting last weekend indicated that they are even fearful and worried that they may have over-stepped themselves in creating the financial crisis, and that they fear they may actually lose their grip on power.

    And yes, i have seen that movie.


    Awesome movie and Meoh what you said made my day icon_biggrin.gif

    I'd love to see these punks fail.. and go down hard.
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    May 23, 2009 10:54 PM GMT
    Yes, they WILL. I have no doubts. But "when" they fail is another matter.

    Personally, I think an elite frightened of losing their grip on power is like cornering a dangerous animal: it's when they become the most dangerous and the most viscous.
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    May 23, 2009 11:16 PM GMT
    ummmm... if its so secret how do you know so much about it and are able to readily provide links to information?

    I hear Tom Clancy likes conspiracies, check him out at the library.
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    May 23, 2009 11:18 PM GMT
    it's secretive, not undocumented.

    the information is there for those that look and know where to look.

    i call it secret, because that is the intent of the meetings, to be held in secret, and because, considering it is the single most powerful organization in the world, not too many people have heard of it.

    that is quite a feat on their part.
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    May 24, 2009 6:28 AM GMT
    Wow, MeOhMy, kudos to you on posting this topic. I know some stuff about the bilderberg group but not in this much detail.

    Hilliary Clinton and Obama were supposedly at a meeting before the presidential election but as I recall neither were actually caught on film as far as I know. Not sure about the Bush's but as I recall they are mainly skull & crossbones society.

    There is a document that I have from an old coworker that probably will interest you. I'll see if I can get my scanner working and send it to you. It's a two pager taken from a Congressional Record. My coworker brought in the original and allowed me to make a copy. I am hesitant to say what it entails but you will understand once you read it. Actually, my coworker warned me on doing research on it. I haven't thought about what to do with it yet. Apparently her grandfather had been sworn in!

    So sorry guys I'm not posting it here and not freely handing it out.
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    May 24, 2009 6:58 AM GMT
    Yes, Hillary has reportedly been to a few meetings.

    And yes, last year, it was not confirmed, although it is highly likely that Obama and Hilary went to the meeting, as it was in Virginia where the Group was meeting, while they were both campaigning there, and Obama had his entire press corps that was following him on his campaign put onto his plane, and then they werent told that Obama wasnt on the plane until it took off, and he was whisked away to a secret meeting with Hilary, at an undisclosed location, and as his press secretary said, "some people had a desire to hold meetings with him, and thats what he went to do"

    oh, and Bilderberg last year also selected who his running mate was to be, as in, Biden.
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    May 24, 2009 7:08 AM GMT
    I wouldn't be surprised if they picked Palin so McCain would lose. Even though it was a sure thing that the country was not going to have a republican after bush.