You are born rich? It is something to be ashamed of...

  • zakariahzol

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    May 23, 2009 10:50 PM GMT
    Now that somebody brought the issue about the wealthy, let discuss about this topic. Do you born rich? Do you inheritated anything. I was not(excpet for a piece of land ) . My family is just a farmer with large family. My dad use to work at construction site, vegetable farmer and some low paid salary job. Whatever wealth I have now is my own hard work and my careful planning.

    A lot of us are naturally envious of kids who dont have to go thru what we go thru. I once know a friend who married a rich man daughter and become rich very quick due to his father in law background. But fortunately he is responsible and not some ungrateful son in law.

    However , I dont believe we as normal folk should hate or resentful toward people who are happen to be luckier than us. Of course if his a snoob, arrogant and nasty.
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    May 24, 2009 1:51 AM GMT
    I have spent time in Singapore and at one time crossed over the channel into Johor Bahru after visiting the Kranji Industrial Estate. Singapore was rising then. One of my companies sold a Manufacturing Execution System to the electronics industry there.

    Whether someone is born wealthy is open to interpretation. Most Americans see wealth as one's ability to spend money, not one's material worth, which may or may not be producing income.
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    May 24, 2009 1:56 AM GMT
    You were born gay, does that make you something to be ashamed of?

    Shame comes in our failure to do good in the world, not in the circumstance into which we entered the world. Yes, you can take pride in what you were born into - wealth, race, gender, sexuality, nationality - but the most important thing is what you do with what you have and what you make of yourself. Those are the things to be truly proud, or ashamed, of.
  • caliboy

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    May 24, 2009 1:57 AM GMT
    I was born in a good family and had plenty of welth becuase of my family, but because my family made me earn things and work when I was a teen, I appreciate it more than those that just gets things bought and paid for without credit limits or chores. .... I wouldn't have mind tho icon_smile.gif
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    May 24, 2009 2:00 AM GMT
    you should no more be ashamed of being born rich than you should of being born poor. And no prouder either.

    Rich jerks are as much jerks as poor ones.

    NEXT.
  • Medic911

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    May 24, 2009 2:03 AM GMT
    I was born into a family with wealth and success. But I was always the guy that shared everything I had.

    I find happiness in making others happy, and sharing my success and money.


    No biggy. Money comes and money goes... memories and friends are what really matter.

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    May 24, 2009 2:13 AM GMT
    I like what Bill Gates is doing. He's leaving his kids pretty much nothing. But that's after he and his wife pass away. In the meantime, I'm sure they'll live it up as much as possible. icon_lol.gif
  • zakariahzol

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    May 24, 2009 2:14 AM GMT
    Off topic,

    You should have let me know. I cross over the channel to Kranji , (it a strait actually not channel) to see you. BTW, you are the first Westerner in Real Jock who know where Johor Bahru is.
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    May 24, 2009 3:26 AM GMT
    xrichx saidI like what Bill Gates is doing. He's leaving his kids pretty much nothing. But that's after he and his wife pass away. In the meantime, I'm sure they'll live it up as much as possible. icon_lol.gif


    See, I think that's dumb. My parents are doing the opposite. I'm going to be rich as HELL when they pass away, but until then, I've paid for myself through college and in chiro school ... I bought my own car ... they'll help me out OCCASIONALLY, but only if I really need it.

    My dad built his way up from nothing, so he wants to show us the value of hard work.

    (Secretly, I think Bill Gates is doing that because he's afraid of what his kids would do to him to get that much money. icon_rolleyes.gif )
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    May 24, 2009 3:36 AM GMT
    When you think about it, those of us in the United States are rich when you compare to other countries in the world.
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    May 24, 2009 4:35 AM GMT
    My brothers, sister and I were taught to avoid talking about money. I was urged to work hard for most everything I ever got - from the age of nine. That taught me to take care of money and my possessions. I paid for bicycles, cars, student tuition. I got no gravy training job in our family company - instead I had to go knocking on doors elsewhere and learn how to get my own jobs. No spoiled remittance men in our family!
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    May 24, 2009 6:00 AM GMT
    I have found that the less money a family has the closer they are.
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    May 24, 2009 6:13 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidI like what Bill Gates is doing. He's leaving his kids pretty much nothing. But that's after he and his wife pass away. In the meantime, I'm sure they'll live it up as much as possible. icon_lol.gif


    See, I think that's dumb. My parents are doing the opposite. I'm going to be rich as HELL when they pass away, but until then, I've paid for myself through college and in chiro school ... I bought my own car ... they'll help me out OCCASIONALLY, but only if I really need it.

    My dad built his way up from nothing, so he wants to show us the value of hard work.

    (Secretly, I think Bill Gates is doing that because he's afraid of what his kids would do to him to get that much money. icon_rolleyes.gif )


    actually that has nothing to do with it and I highly doubt that Bill Gates is telling the truth. The reason why certain Tycoons say such nonsense is to appease shareholders in the event of his death so that new management or incompetance does not threaten the company's financial health. Just like Paris Hilton's grandfather alledegedly removing Paris from the will... Bill Gates children and the Paris Hilton's of the world will be wealthy for the rest of their lives so long as they don't squander it on drugs, or bad investments.

    whats the point of creating wealth if you don't do it for the ones you love?
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    May 24, 2009 6:23 AM GMT
    does anyone really care about the monetary standing of another person? I mean on the list of things that are important, I think someones bowel movements are more important and I don't wanna know shit about them.
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    May 24, 2009 8:31 AM GMT
    growingbig saidI have found that the less money a family has the closer they are.


    We found out about this the hard way. LOL

    Back when I was a kid, we were quite wealthy. We owned a lot of farmlands, had like an army of workers, etc. That all kinda went slowly down the drain as I was growing up until it came to a point were we literally had nothing to eat, something like a week in which all the money we had left amounted to less than 2 dollars. Imagine that for a family of 8, especially for a family that a mere decade ago had birthday parties that rivaled the town fiestas. That was the first time I saw my mother cry.

    That passed when we had help from relatives, but then came a harder time when we lost our house to the national bank.

    That was the worst time for the family, and the tensest. One of our neighbors was kind enough to bid for our house in the auction in which our house was being sold (former owners were not allowed to bid). And thankfully, no one among the bidders dare outbid him, probably because they understood it was residential property and that if they bid for it they'd be putting a family out on the streets.

    We got back our house, learned who the real friends of the family were, and it brought us all closer together. We've since recovered, and we're doing pretty well now. But yeah, those experiences taught me something - money is not something that factors much into my life.

    But neither do I consider wealth bad. Often, those who say 'money is the root of all evil' have obviously never been really poor a single day of their life, and trust me, if you know what it's like you'd change your mind too. It often puzzles me how rich western men would give up all they own so that they can be a poverty-stricken hare krishna monk. All because they're searching for 'happiness' and 'wisdom'. Lordy, somebody tell them, you can never find contentment in polar extremes. Greed is evil, but not wealth. Poverty in itself will make you examine the more important things in life more closely, but it's not profound.

    If you're rich good, if you're poor so what.
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    May 24, 2009 11:14 AM GMT
    zakariahzol saidNow that somebody brought the issue about the wealthy, let discuss about this topic. Do you born rich? Do you inheritated anything. I was not(excpet for a piece of land ) . My family is just a farmer with large family. My dad use to work at construction site, vegetable farmer and some low paid salary job. Whatever wealth I have now is my own hard work and my careful planning.

    A lot of us are naturally envious of kids who dont have to go thru what we go thru. I once know a friend who married a rich man daughter and become rich very quick due to his father in law background. But fortunately he is responsible and not some ungrateful son in law.

    However , I dont believe we as normal folk should hate or resentful toward people who are happen to be luckier than us. Of course if his a snoob, arrogant and nasty.



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  • GQjock

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    May 24, 2009 11:19 AM GMT
    I dated a guy who came from a very wealthy family for a long time
    and it really isn't something that rich people are ashamed of but it's not something they say to everyone they meet
    Because once people know that they have a lot of money people start acting very differently around them
  • zakariahzol

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    May 24, 2009 11:28 AM GMT
    The ex prime minister of Thailand Taksin Sinatwatra (a fugitive now), who is a telecommunication billionaire in Thaialnd put his daughter to work in McDonald earning minimum wages. So I guess , just because you are rich didnt mean you have an easy life.

    Adnoh,

    Sorry for the so call gramatical mistake. That what you got when English is not your first language. I always better at spoken than written. Anyway, most guys here can understand me , except you. I been here almost two years, this is the first time someone complaining that I must be drinking while writting in the forum
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    May 24, 2009 11:37 AM GMT
    i try to never judge those who are born wealthy because you never know what their life's journey is truly about.
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    May 24, 2009 12:44 PM GMT
    Anyone ever seen "Born Rich".. it's a documantary made by Jamie Johnson ( Johnson & Johnson Heir, his dad is the one in all those new green J&J commercials) about what it's like to be born into money and how different your life is.
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    May 24, 2009 12:54 PM GMT
    im not wealthy my parents are worth quite a lot but im one of 7 children (6 of us are getting nothing), i have friends who are extremely rich (they have yachts- the big ones etc etc but im not the envious type)
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    May 24, 2009 12:55 PM GMT
    GiaMatti saidi try to never judge those who are born wealthy because you never know what their life's journey is truly about.


    WELL SAID!!!!!!
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    May 24, 2009 2:36 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidyou should no more be ashamed of being born rich than you should of being born poor. And no prouder either.

    Rich jerks are as much jerks as poor ones.

    NEXT.


    no rich jerks are much more of jerks than poor ones
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    May 24, 2009 3:15 PM GMT
    I come from a wealthy family. But a lot of hard work went into earning what we have. My parents are very driven and were not always wealthy, but they were fortunate to have a lot of success. But that is all thanks to the hard work that they have put into it and the education that they sought out. As a result, my siblings and I (there's 8 of us) are also very driven and strive to live up to our potential. My parents have set a great example for us, and so yes, this will probably lead us to be successful, too. But I wouldn't say that I was born that way, it's just what I have learned through the years that makes me want to succeed more than the average guy. We also give a lot though, always volunteering, we usually help about 150 families in our community every year around christmas and the holidays. And after having six children of her own, my mom decided to adopt two more (A baby from Korea and a 7 year old orphan from Taiwan). We may have a lot, but we give a lot too. So I am definitely not ashamed, I am PROUD of my family!!!
  • josephmovie

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    May 26, 2009 10:03 PM GMT
    I'm from a family with no money and I have to admit that I do resent rich people, or more specifically, the children of rich people. No matter how useless they are (and alot are) the folks always set them up in the end.

    I went to university and made my way in the world but it was so much harder than it was for many of my wealthy peers. It always seemed to me (and still does) that no matter what decisions a the child of a wealthy person makes, they are still one step away from getting whatever they want, whereas people like me are always one step away from losing everything if I make the wrong decision.