"Hows Dorothy and Toto"??

  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 12, 2007 1:36 AM GMT
    One of the first questions I'm asked when I meet people away from Kansas...... It used to drive me crazy.

    TBS has been running "The Wizard of OZ" this weekend at 7:00 p.m. (CST) and its always interesting to watch it. Many in Kansas feel the same way.

    I cried when the witch almost got Dorothy while in her castle when I was 5 (during that first viewing..and still remember it) and used to mutter about "The witch just doing away with Dorothy" this time around when CBS ran it each year when I was a teenager. I remember thinking how horrible it made Kansas look (in black and white). Kansas doesn't look like I thought.
    It made our state look like something pretty awful.
    The tornado even looked like a fake.

    The reality is that western Kansas is bleak and probably back in 1939 (during the dust bowl), it wasn't that far off. And the tornado was pretty good actually. The black skies really look pretty realistic. I've seen tornadoes and their damage.

    Actually many Kansans have come to embrace "The Wizard of OZ" and know much about its filming. But Kansas is a big state and isn't soley flat and has a lot to offer. Consider this a "welcome" should you ever decide to come visit.

    Just watch out for the witch! LOL

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    Nov 12, 2007 1:41 AM GMT
    Oh right...the land of people who dont believe in evolution....I wanna be caught there.
  • Partclman

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    Nov 12, 2007 1:45 AM GMT
    I'm a friend of Dorothy.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 12, 2007 2:17 AM GMT
    Caslon, that was reversed with the last election.
    The State Board reversed itself..... the right wingers lost out
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    Nov 12, 2007 2:55 AM GMT
    oh good! Glad to hear it. So what did Kansans think about that whole fiasco? Are they embarrassed by the notoriety it gave the state?
  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 12, 2007 2:57 AM GMT
    I would say it ranked about the same level as Phelps... for most of us...
  • PaMedic

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    Nov 12, 2007 2:58 AM GMT
    The Wizard of Oz was one of my favorite movies when I was younger. I can remember sitting on the edge of my seat worried that the witch was going to get Dorothy. It was a wonderful movie and had stood the passage of time.

    I will walk down the yellow brick road with HndsmKansan anytime. His good looks are just the surface for a wonderful, kind, friendly guy with a head in his shoulders. I think he is new "Oz". I know I am going to be looking for him. He stole my Tin man heart, I can always use more brains like the scarecrow, and gives me the courage like the lion. I would hunt for ever to find HndsmKansan Oz.

    Love your form you can tell it came from the heart.

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    Nov 12, 2007 4:18 AM GMT
    I've always hated the Wizard of Oz.

    Forced to watch it with my parents when I was a child. Ranks up there with being forced to watch Gone With the Wind every time it came on as well.

    Reminds me, just a side note...I hated the Planet of the Apes movies as well. Traumatized me as a child to the point that I avoid the monkey/ape pens at the zoos.

    Oh well...let me look at the lions and tigers and bears oh my....arrrgghhhh!icon_eek.gif
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    Nov 12, 2007 5:40 AM GMT
    Actually, the tornado special effect was pretty damn good, and, without knowing it, the effects people captured some of the features we actually see with tornadoes.

    As most of you may know, the tornado was made with a weighted woman's nylon stocking suspended from a fan. The debris was "fuller's earth"...a very light, black dust, easy to make airborne. When I saw that when I was a kid, it was terrifying to me.

    I have seen many tornadoes in real life, including some as violent and as close up as that one...but none has ever stricken me with fear as much as the stylized tornado in the Wizard of Oz.

    It was a great movie. Full of hidden meanings, beyond the obvious American/Judaeo/Christian virtues it obviously purports to extol.

    And it is full of wonderful lines and dialog "I'll get you, my pretty!!" is one of my favorites, along with "These things must be done del-i-cate-ly" (when the witch was deciding how to kill Dorothy.)

    I see the poster before me doesn't think so kindly of the movie. Yes, I realize it has been force-fed on Americans for decades and decades.

  • NickoftheNort...

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    Nov 12, 2007 8:12 AM GMT
    While I think the film is enjoyable, I prefer the book and its descriptions icon_smile.gif

    For all of you who have seen the original film, who among you have seen the 1984 sequel: Return to Oz?

    I enjoyed what it had to say about Kansas' mental health institutions icon_cool.gif
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    Nov 12, 2007 9:26 AM GMT
    I am enjoying the Wizard Of Oz, but The Wiz is more my style. And now there is Wicked on broadway, but HndsmKansan why you always laying on your back? Are you looking at rainbows? (your sexy)icon_wink.gif is there room on that bench for two?
  • RSportsguy

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    Nov 12, 2007 10:25 AM GMT
    HndsmanKansan, I went to a football game at the University of Kansas about 10 years ago. We flew into Kansas City and drove to the game the next day. (a few hour drive if I remember correctly.) The first thing that I noticed is that the area was not as flat and dusty as I thought it was going to be. BTW- the BBQ in Kansas City is awesome too!
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    Nov 12, 2007 10:27 AM GMT
    i didn't like 'the wizard of oz' when i was a kid either but i loved 'planet of the apes'.

    i didn't understand the whole faggy judy garland thing either untill someone played me 'judy at carnegie'. 'we love you judy!'

    (does this mean i have to leave realjock now?)icon_cry.gif
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    Nov 12, 2007 10:53 AM GMT
    Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon syncs with the Wizard of Oz. Very surreal but beautiful.
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    Nov 12, 2007 10:02 PM GMT
    I had a couple of Toto's for many years. Wonderful, loving, mischievous dogs, and full of way too much energy for at least the first four years of their lives. I miss them.
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    Nov 29, 2007 12:53 AM GMT
    What I love about The Wizard of Oz is that the whole movie is just one long vaudeville shtick.

    Scenes like when Miss Gulch first encounters Uncle Henry.

    Miss Gulch: "I'm here to see about Dorothy."
    Uncle Henry: "What's she done?"
    Miss Gulch: "I'm almost lame from the bite on my leg."
    Uncle Henry (scratching his head): "Dorothy bit you?"
    Miss Gulch: "No, her dog."
    Uncle Henry: "Ahh, she bit her dog."
    Miss Gulch (after a moment, glaring, disgusted): "No."

    or the moment Dorothy first approaches Professor Marvel's wagon. It is clearly painted with a sign reading "Performed before all the crowned heads of Europe".

    Dorothy: "Please, may we go with you and see the crowned heads of Europe?"
    Professor Marvel (distractedly): "Why, do you know any?"
    then, after a beat, "Oh, the, uh....hmm".

    Sheer vaudeville.
  • farfle

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    Nov 29, 2007 1:12 AM GMT
    Hello, my name is David and I'm a friend of Dorothy...
  • MarkX

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    Dec 22, 2007 8:31 PM GMT
    Regarding the 1939 movie...

    When I was little, the magic appealed to me. (I would have been a Harry Pooter NUT had he lived in the '70s.)

    When I began studying theatre, and particularly after I ready the Baum book, the movie lost some of its appeal. Then it regained its appeal as I developed a respect for Vaudeville shtick.

    Now, it's HndsmKansan whom I find really appealing.

    But I digress.
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    Dec 22, 2007 8:45 PM GMT
    I wish that somebody would explicitly codify what the link is between "gay culture" and The Wizard of Oz and/or dressing up as Judy Garland as Dorothy. Because I have never had a clue about that.