Canadian Governor-General eating raw seal heart and biting off more than she might have expected in controversy

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    May 28, 2009 2:40 AM GMT
    Seal snack sparks controversy

    Controversy after Canada's governor general samples a piece of raw seal meat.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2009/05/27/bonner.can.seal.snack.cbc


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    May 28, 2009 3:06 AM GMT
    Frankly I´d rather live in a country which gave equal rights to all its citizens regardless of sexual orientation [and had an affordable health care system which did not work just for the rich and connected] than one that spent all its moral indignation on seals and had leading public figures trying to justify torture. But perhaps we just have different definitions of "civilized".

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    May 28, 2009 3:14 AM GMT
    Lostboy saidFrankly I´d rather live in a country which gave equal rights to all its citizens regardless of sexual orientation than one that spent all its moral indignation on seals and had leading public figures trying to justify torture.

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    I don't think you justify one inhumane practice (in my opinion) with another. Wrong is wrong.
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    May 28, 2009 3:33 AM GMT
    Our government is Conservative, the Canadian version of Republican.

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    May 28, 2009 3:37 AM GMT
    calibro said
    Lostboy saidFrankly I´d rather live in a country which gave equal rights to all its citizens regardless of sexual orientation than one that spent all its moral indignation on seals and had leading public figures trying to justify torture.

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    I don't think you justify one inhumane practice (in my opinion) with another. Wrong is wrong.


    i agree, seal clubbing shouldnt be legal, and neither should hunting wolves via air (helicopters, thanks to palin in alaska)

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    May 28, 2009 3:44 AM GMT
    hmmmmmm i wonder if it tastes like chicken
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    May 28, 2009 4:15 AM GMT
    I havn't noticed much contreversy here. The prevelant attitude (ymmv) seems to be "Good for her!".
    I have no problem with this action, in fact I beleive it was the right thing to do.
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    May 28, 2009 4:42 AM GMT
    Blackguy4you saidhmmmmmm i wonder if it tastes like chicken

    Probably like chicken heart
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    May 28, 2009 5:14 AM GMT


    It's difficult to believe that by the 21st century there still, for some obnoxious reason, isn't a way to harvest seals humanely.
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    May 28, 2009 5:24 AM GMT
    After living in the Arctic for several years I've learned a lot about the Inuit people and their culture. I've realized that this is not something that is done for fun, this is something that is part of these peoples cultures and it has been for thousands of years. People are forgetting that this is the Arctic, it's not like you can go out and get shit out of your garden. It's life or death and these people choose life, life in an extreme climate, and an extreme place with nothing.

    If any of you knew how humble these people are, you'd understand. But, because most of the world doesn't, and because people choose to believe what the media has to say, they're going to of course think that they're horrible people.

    This is where Canada stands now. Canada and Norway are showing the world that the Arctic is a place, it's a very different place with very different people. It's another world that very, very few people have ever experienced. These people aren't not murders, they're living the land and the only culture they know.

    The videos and pictures you see look horrible, and I admit that, but the seals are killed instantly with no pain. Look at how cows and other animals are 'harvested', they suffer a lot worse than seals.
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    May 28, 2009 5:52 AM GMT
    seriously? they're just animals...


    yum yum!
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    May 28, 2009 5:55 AM GMT



    Hey catlll , we feel the same way about domestic livestock for food. It's the 21st century. There's got to be a way to do it all humanely.

    The trouble with this is topic is there is a Youtube about seal sport along with a link to the Governor General's support of the Inuit community. The two are very different things and we agree with supporting the Inuit. They can't just go to Safeway and pick up dinner..thanks for pointing this out.

    We don't agree with it as sport though - if you don't need to eat it - don't kill it.

    Conversely, we do agree with the necessity for culls where severe overpopulation causes the misery of mass starvation and depleted fish stocks.

    There are no easy answers.







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    May 28, 2009 6:01 AM GMT
    Your right, sport-wise is bad. But, isn't it just as bad to go deer, moose, duck, bird, whatever else hunting? It's a hypocritical situation, I think, and people are being unfairly targeted.

    Not that I'm condoning it, believe me, I'm not.
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    You're right. Sport hunting is from a bygone era and should stay there.

    Hey, by the way , welcome to RJ!!


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    May 28, 2009 7:15 AM GMT
    Sport hunting isn't a bygone era. Any southerner knows that it is still alive and well. Of course current laws limit the season and the amount of the cull, but it is still quite a popular sport.

    As for animal farming, there is very little in the way of humane treatment of these animals. Electrocution, metal spikes through the brain, cutting the heads off of chickens while they are still alive, and that is only some of the things I've seen, not to mention the ones that die in transit, due to packing the animals on trucks like sardines.

    There is no humane way to kill. In my opinion, we either all become vegitarian, or stop raising nine kinds of hell whenever someone does what most nowadays have the stomach to do themselves. Sorry guys, but I like potatoes, but I also like steak.
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    May 28, 2009 7:51 AM GMT
    So much of this is only controversial because seal pups are seen as "cute". You needn't think the pig from the bacon you had this morning, the chicken you had for lunch or the cow from the burger you ate tonight died in their sleep of natural causes.
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    May 28, 2009 9:39 AM GMT
    I'm all about the cute and fuzzy and I don't eat seal, and I am not Canadian nor am I an Inuit. There food is there food and the gov general wanted a taste, good for her.
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    May 28, 2009 1:20 PM GMT
    yeah, cool. joining in a cultural normality. icon_neutral.gif

    not like she clubbed the thing.
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    May 28, 2009 1:22 PM GMT
    don't they say when in rome....
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    May 28, 2009 1:28 PM GMT
    I want to see Caslon vs. Danny Williams

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    May 28, 2009 1:36 PM GMT
    she was doing it, explicitly at least, in identification with the Inuit. They don´t kill seals for fun you know. It´s not "inhumane" (I am an ex vegan... so I know all the animal rights arguments) There is nothing wrong with eating what you need to survive.

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    May 28, 2009 1:45 PM GMT
    The report criticizes the G-G because her action confuses the issues between Inuit subsistence hunting and the commercial slaughtering of the pups.
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    May 28, 2009 1:47 PM GMT
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    May 28, 2009 1:48 PM GMT
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    It's mean to make fun of slaughtering baby seals
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    May 28, 2009 1:50 PM GMT
    Caslon10901 said
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    It's mean to make fun of slaughtering baby seals


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