Unexpected Cheney

  • calibro

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    Jun 01, 2009 9:59 PM GMT
    Can't say I like the man one bit, but I was surprised to hear this today:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/01/cheney.speech/

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gMy6C2AiBsrQQ-jwPliaZANmi7kQD98I36VO1
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    Jun 01, 2009 10:54 PM GMT
    He's still the anti-christ
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    Jun 01, 2009 11:16 PM GMT
    Even though Cheney may be the anti-christ, he is very protective and supportive of his lesbian daughter. He now openly supports gay marriage.
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    Jun 01, 2009 11:45 PM GMT
    I am pleased as punch Cheney said this, really I am. But what a crock of shit. By making it a state issue it ignores the hundreds of civil rights that are given by the federal government. Legal same sex marriages in Massachusetts and other states still do not have access to any of those rights.

    So, hurrah for support for a fraction of the privileges hets get.
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    Jun 02, 2009 12:19 AM GMT
    I think this is one of the first statements I've ever heard him make, that gives support to state sovereignty and not an expansion of federal authority.
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    Jun 02, 2009 12:31 AM GMT
    The AP article quoted above saysCheney, who has a gay daughter, said marriage has always been a state issue.

    "And I think that's the way it ought to be handled today, that is, on a state-by-state basis. Different states will make different decisions. But I don't have any problem with that. I think people ought to get a shot at that," he said.


    "Always a state issue"...well, that's rich, considering that his boss and his party tried twice to write a ban on gay marriage into the US constitution.

    Let's face it, this new openness is motivated only by the fact that the Republicans won't win another presidential election if they continue to be the party of Leviticus and brimstone.
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    Jun 02, 2009 12:38 AM GMT
    That man is so full of shit his eyes are brown (proverbially).
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    Jun 02, 2009 12:41 AM GMT
    I don't know whether to smile or throw up in my mouth a little bit.
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    Jun 02, 2009 12:43 AM GMT
    RunintheCity saidI don't know whether to smile or throw up in my mouth a little bit.


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    Jun 02, 2009 6:28 AM GMT
    I would be interested in hearing what his daughter has to say about this coming from her father now as opposed to him not doing so earlier.
  • Timbales

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    Jun 02, 2009 1:48 PM GMT
    I think it's pretty easy to say what you want when your political career is over.
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    Jun 02, 2009 1:53 PM GMT
    PLEASE give me a FREAKING BREAK! Where was all this support when he was Vice-President when he could have really made a diffrence. His words mean nothing to me. I see this a smoke and mirrors to try make is party look better.
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    Jun 02, 2009 1:59 PM GMT
    Ducky45 saidPLEASE give me a FREAKING BREAK! Where was all this support when he was Vice-President when he could have really made a diffrence. His words mean nothing to me. I see this a smoke and mirrors to try make is party look better.

    Agreed. Cheney had no love of gays when he was in office and could have had some positive impact. Rather, he endorsed and campaigned on the anti-gay rights Republican platform. Too little, too late, nothing but pathetic PR.
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    Jun 02, 2009 2:00 PM GMT
    Timberoo saidI think it's pretty easy to say what you want when your political career is over.


    Over? It has just begun! He now has the full time job of defending the Bush administration so the two of them don't get investigated. And that is a job with a lot of sleepless nights.
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    Jun 02, 2009 2:05 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidOver? It has just begun! He now has the full time job of defending the Bush administration so the two of them don't get investigated. And that is a job with a lot of sleepless nights.

    Not only investigated here in the US, but the specter of charges from international tribunals for war crimes. I suspect (and hope) that's the real risk that he and Rumsfeld face.
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    Jun 02, 2009 2:32 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie said
    Timberoo saidI think it's pretty easy to say what you want when your political career is over.


    Over? It has just begun! He now has the full time job of defending the Bush administration so the two of them don't get investigated. And that is a job with a lot of sleepless nights.


    He's not running for offices, he's not being elected by anyone.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jun 02, 2009 8:25 PM GMT
    It would have been great if he said this and announced his support for same-sex marriages while he was Vice-President. I think it is too late for Dick Cheney to come out now and support any gay rights causes when he had an 8 year opportunity to do so. I appreciate the support from him but at the same token it is a bit cowardice on his part to wait till after he left office to announce his support.
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    Jun 03, 2009 2:48 AM GMT
    I think what happened there is he basically gave the green light to republicans to be comfortable with being more open minded to the issue. You'll start to see a slow shift in the republican party now on (let's be realistic) civil unions. It will probably begin with New York. I would not be surprised at least 5 or 6 republicans favor gay marriage there.

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    Jun 10, 2009 11:53 AM GMT
    Dick Cheney Does Not Support Gay Marriage. He Supports His Daughter's Gay Marriage

    Andy Ostroy

    So Dick Cheney has come out in support of gay marriage. Big fucking deal. If anyone thinks that, at his core, Cheney actually cares about homosexuals and their civil rights or lack thereof...I have some cabins in the mountain region of Pakistan they might be interested in buying.

    Earlier this week Cheney said he doesn't have "any problems" with same-sex marriages, adding "I think, you know, freedom means freedom for everyone. I think people ought to be free to enter into any kind of union they wish, any kind of arrangement they wish," and said the issue should be handled at the state level.

    Cheney's sudden love and respect for gays is 100% about his daughter Mary, period. Do you honestly think that before she exited the closet, and dating back to his Bush 41 and Nixon days, that he was a passionate proponent of gay rights? If so, I suppose you also think Newt Gingrich and Tom Delay hang out together watching Project Runway while feeding each other fondue?

    To be sure, what we're witnessing here is classic self-serving, hypocritical, double-standard, Republican "do as I say not as I do" rationalizations:

    "I'm against gay marriage until I learn that my kid's gay"

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-ostroy/dick-cheney-does-not-supp_b_210721.html