Gay penquin "fathers" shows homosexual behavior not unique to humans

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    Jun 05, 2009 11:53 PM GMT
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31123391/E
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    Jun 06, 2009 1:37 AM GMT
    Here is something I posted somewhere else that is related

    How about two gay penguins raising adopting a chick??icon_biggrin.gif
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/04/two-gay-penguins-and-a-ch_n_211497.htmlBERLIN — A German zoo says a pair of gay male penguins are raising a chick from an egg abandoned by its parents.

    Homosexual behavior has been documented in many animal species.
    The zoo said in a statement on its Web site Thursday that "sex and coupling in our world don't always have something to do with reproduction."
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    Jun 06, 2009 1:56 AM GMT
    ActiveAndFit saidHere is something I posted somewhere else that is related

    How about two gay penguins raising adopting a chick??icon_biggrin.gif
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/04/two-gay-penguins-and-a-ch_n_211497.htmlBERLIN — A German zoo says a pair of gay male penguins are raising a chick from an egg abandoned by its parents.

    Homosexual behavior has been documented in many animal species.
    The zoo said in a statement on its Web site Thursday that "sex and coupling in our world don't always have something to do with reproduction."

    Same story through MSNBC online, that I posted as this separate thread to give it more direct exposure.
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    Jun 06, 2009 1:59 AM GMT
    In the animal industry, we use homosexual behavior of animals daily. Homosexual behavior in cows is a great way to know when to use artificial insemination. This is just one way of determining when cows are in heat by looking at lordosis behavior. Most animals exhibit some type of homosexual behavior whether it be horses masturbating to cows mounting one another.
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    Red_Vespa saidSame story through MSNBC online, that I posted as this separate thread to give it more direct exposure.
    It is worth noting icon_biggrin.gif with all this talk of animals getting married because gays getting married I have to laugh. Gay animals have been pairing for a LONG time don't you think? icon_lol.gif Probably before human marriage. Maybe it is because we allow opposite sex marriage .. that in turn creates gay babies .. see it is all the work of heterosexuals icon_redface.gif

    And let us not forget Ninio the Gay elephant :

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/10/gay-elephant-draws-fire-f_n_185576.htmlNinio, a male elephant acquired by a Poland's Poznan Zoo who has demonstrated a total lack of interest in the ladies, is now drawing fire from Michal Grzes, a conservative politician angered over what he sees as a wasted investment. Here are Grzes' statements, from the Telegraph:

    "We didn't pay 37 million zlotys (7.6 million pounds) for the largest elephant house in Europe to have a gay elephant live there," said Mr Grzes, who is from the right-wing opposition Law and Justice party.

    "We were supposed to have a herd, but as Ninio prefers male friends over females how will he produce offspring?" said.

    However, the zoo's director is defending Ninio from Grzes' haranguing by arguing that the recalcitrant elephant may be too young to decide his sexual orientation just yet. Ninio, being ten years-old, is four years short of elephant-sexual-maturity, according to the Telegraph.


    Happy Pride Ninio! Happy Pride Z and Vielpunkt!!**
    **the gay penguins
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  • DCEric

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    Jun 06, 2009 3:37 AM GMT
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    Seriously. If this hasn't been found before in several different parts of the animal kingdom.
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    Jun 06, 2009 3:46 AM GMT
    only people with their heads stuck in unsavory places think homosexuality is unique to humans :>
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    Jun 06, 2009 4:06 AM GMT
    get the book and tango makes three. it is a children's book about gay penguins in the central park zoo. true story.
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    Jun 06, 2009 4:30 AM GMT
    Biological exuberance.

    Horribly boring but also quite fun - and with Pictures! icon_razz.gif

    Look at your local library (i found a copy at school's library)
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    Jun 06, 2009 4:32 AM GMT
    Homosexual behavior, if described as male animals who have anal sex with other male animals, is virtually unheard of in nature.

    Just for your information...
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    Jun 06, 2009 4:40 AM GMT



    Ryan, would you like some info regarding the opposite of what you just posted?

    Here:

    http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

    Please read the whole thing.

    "Every male that sniffed a female was reported as sex, while anal intercourse with orgasm between males was only "revolving around" dominance, competition or greetings."


    ...now, you were saying...
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    Jun 06, 2009 4:55 AM GMT
    That was a great post meninlove:

    Someone needs to send this to the NOM lady that says gay parents are not as good as straight parents:icon_redface.gif
    http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspxAnimals that live a completely homosexual life can also be found. This occurs especially among birds that will pair with one partner for life, which is the case with geese and ducks. Four to five percent of the couples are homosexual. Single females will lay eggs in a homosexual pair's nest. It has been observed that the homosexual couple are often better at raising the young than heterosexual couples.
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    Jun 06, 2009 5:01 AM GMT
    This made a realjock cover story!
    http://www.realjock.com/article/1439
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    Jun 06, 2009 11:33 AM GMT
    RyanReBoRn saidHomosexual behavior, if described as male animals who have anal sex with other male animals, is virtually unheard of in nature.

    Just for your information...


    Er... more g0y lies?

    http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/465/is-there-such-a-thing-as-a-gay-animal

    http://www.springerlink.com/content/n424t1985133j770/Abstract One pair of male rhesus monkeys reared in the laboratory with exclusive social access to each other during their second year of life were observed to display reciprocal mounting with anal penetration on several occasions. Their mounts were of comparable duration to those which have been observed in matching heterosexual pairs, by contrast with the brief mounts which are often observed in dominance interactions. The postures exhibited by the mounted male resembled those typical of females during heterosexual coitus, while the mounting male displayed the species-typical male copulatory position. Each male at times assumed either role. Ejaculation was not documented during these male-male interactions, although it may have occurred. Both males performed adequately with familiar and unfamiliar females (including ejaculation), but a preference test demonstrated that these males preferred contact with one another to contact with a sexually receptive unfamiliar female. These males displayed an unusual amount of affectionate behavior (by contrast with other rhesus males) including extended periods of contact with embracing and grooming. It is suggested that the relationship between these males was primarily based on mutual affection, although a sexual component was unmistakably present.


    Not to mention Bison, Bighorn Sheep, Giraffes, other Monkeys, etc.

    As for the penguins, all I can say is... awww!!! icon_biggrin.gif

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    Jun 06, 2009 11:56 AM GMT
    In the City Of Melbourne Australia, there is a Suburb called Port Melbourne. It has a colony of wee penguin's, that were once called: "Fairy Penguin's." Not wanting to upset and offend Port melbourne large homosexual community, they re-named then: Little Penguins! icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Jun 06, 2009 12:47 PM GMT
    I'm aware of other examples of homosexual behavior in the animal world, and the examples that several posters cited. Many are in fact brief episodes of homosexual-LIKE behavior, in conjunction with male dominance displays and for other non-sexual purposes as meninlove notes.

    Even anal penetration (which BTW, Ryan, is not an essential component of the homosexual definition) should not automatically lead to making an identification of a homosexual male animal. These males may mount each other one moment, then go on to impregnate a female the next.

    What I thought more notable was the "fatherhood" aspect of this story with the chick, combined with the fact that penguins, like many other birds, bond as pairs, in this case a gay couple that has no interest in females. I'm also aware of the children's book that chungo44 helpfully reminds us about, a story very similar to this one.

    It reinforces the lesson of this present penguin case, that homosexual bonding among animals is not a rare freakish occurrence or abnormality, but happens more often than most of us realize. I believe it must serve a practical purpose in Nature, or else it would not happen. Nature is a far more cruel & unforgiving enforcer of standards than any Christian or Muslim fundamentalist (well, than most, anyway), and would not permit homosexuality to persist if it was not beneficial to a species in some way.

    That's the principle lesson I think we should draw from this story. And why we should scientifically examine Nature's reasons for homosexuality, in both humans and animals.
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    Jun 06, 2009 1:12 PM GMT
    Um... yeah?

    THey did it with a pair of gay swans a while back too. And 1 in 10 rams is gay. Hell, my parents had a pair of lesbian geese.

    I mean, I'm really happy for the chick who's got parents, but this isn't really "new" in any real sense.
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    Jun 06, 2009 2:36 PM GMT
    This is just more of the endless proven facts that homosexuality exists in nature and that all the old time religious based taboos against homosexuality are baseless nonsense. You would think that after countless years of scientific research and observation, these narrow-minded, bible thumping screwballs would finally accept the true fact that homosexuality is just as pure, natural, and normal as heterosexuality. I guess ancient myths about homosexuality being unnatural are dying a long, slow, and hard death. The overdue death of those myths cannot come soon enough.
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    Jun 06, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
    I am glad to see people thinking about the topic. Nature has so much to teach us other than some animals are tasty icon_mad.gif

    It was said "Homosexual behavior, if described as male animals who have anal sex with other male animals, is virtually unheard of in nature. "

    What is really virtually unheard of is probably that "homosexual" animals loathe themselves and are hated by the heterosexual ones. Homophobia .. the hatred and fear of homosexuality is created by humans and their ideologies and religious ideas of what is "natural". It is a good thing animals don't live by man's idea of "natural'
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    Jun 08, 2009 5:02 AM GMT
    RyanReBoRn saidHomosexual behavior, if described as male animals who have anal sex with other male animals, is virtually unheard of in nature.

    Just for your information...



    I'm sorry but have you even bothered LOOKING? where are you getting your information? PLENTY of mammals have sex as you describe it.
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    Jun 09, 2009 7:01 PM GMT
    I Told You Animals Can Be Gay, Too...

    Nature vs. Nurture: Gay Animals
    By Ramon Johnson, About.com

    Last summer during a West Virginia camping trip, I brought up the topic of gay animals. At the time, my fellow gay hikers looked at me like I was the forest idiot for even suggesting that the two squirrels I saw playing together might be gay. They enthusiastically ganged up on me. "Animals aren't gay!" they protested in sequence. Then the professional attacks came, "I thought you were supposed to be like the king gay or something, with your column and all. Now you've gone too far."

    Outnumbered, I scurried for sources, but couldn't remember any. All I recalled was some TV special I saw, an urban legend that farmers killed their queer non-mating animals, the gay penguins at the Central Park Zoo and the man in New York that sold gay dogs. Of course, the specifics escaped me when I needed them most. "King gay?" Gay friends can be so facetious!

    Well, just over a year after my reputation was tarnished, Geir Soeli, the project leader of the exhibition entitled "Against Nature" at the Oslo Natural History Museum tells Reuters: "Homosexuality has been observed for more than 1,500 animal species, and is well documented for 500 of them."

    Soeli's exhibition about homosexuality and animals shows that homosexuality can't be "unnatural." A statement in the exhibition says, "We may have opinions on a lot of things, but one thing is clear -- homosexuality is found throughout the animal kingdom, it is not against nature."

    Soeli also cites Greek philosopher Aristotle's observations of gay hyenas 2,300 years ago and bisexual Bonobos, a type of chimpanzee.

    Thank you, Geir Soeli! Can I have my crown now, fellas? The Gay-Kingdom

    http://gaylife.about.com/od/naturevsnurture/a/aregayanimals.htm