Miracle of Fasting

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    Jun 07, 2009 3:14 AM GMT
    What is your opinion(s) on Fasting?

    I am currently reading: The Miracle of Fasting by Paul C. Bragg PhD.


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    Jun 07, 2009 5:17 AM GMT
    Several of the reviews of the book on Amazon say it reads like an infomercial with Bragg doing a lot of bragging. But the real killer for me is that there apparently isnt any science to back up Bragg's statements, just his anecdotal stories.
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    Jun 07, 2009 5:22 AM GMT
    Bragg writes "Revolt against fat, be the master of your body". And, he says "Don't let overweight make you a sick, old, ugly person". Haha.

    I like his style of writing. He may sound like he is "bragging" as you put it, but I feel this book is full of relevant, truths.

    Just my personal opinion.


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    Jun 07, 2009 5:24 AM GMT
    I'm highly skeptical of any practice that leaves me lightheaded and homicidal.
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    Jun 07, 2009 5:27 AM GMT
    For me, fasting makes me feel peaceful, introspective, and closer to nature.

    If you are feeling light-headed while fasting...perhaps you have a health condition such as low blood-sugar. And, as for the homicidal rage, That may be an indication of deep, psychological trauma...

    Fasting is not for everyone.


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    Jun 07, 2009 5:28 AM GMT
    I'm taking classes in World Food Issues at my university. One of the books we read is called "Hunger," which explores the phenomenon of not eating, be it for fasting purposes or due to the unavailability of food. It's a tad boring, but I would recommend it for further reading on the subject if you are interested.

    It's by Sharman Apt Russell
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    Jun 07, 2009 5:37 AM GMT
    joecoolnv saidFor me, fasting makes me feel peaceful, introspective, and closer to nature.

    If you are feeling light-headed while fasting...perhaps you have a health condition such as low blood-sugar. And, as for the homicidal rage, That may be an indication of deep, psychological trauma...

    Fasting is not for everyone.


    Joe

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    Jun 07, 2009 5:45 AM GMT
    Caslon11000 said

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    Hmmm, I'm not sure if I understand the reference. Are you saying that my youthfulness is an indication of being an ignorant or naive person?

    I have done much reading on the subject of fasting and have started this thread to discuss the pros and cons, opinions, experiences, scientific references etc.

    Other than reading the Amazon reviews on this one, particular book, have you any personal experience with fasting? Also, do you have any productive information to share regarding this subject?


    Joe
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    Jun 07, 2009 6:04 AM GMT
    Ketosis can make you feel rather euphoric.

    Intentionally invoking the famine response teaches your body how to become a fat-storing machine and is ill-advised. It's one of the main reasons fat asses fail in diet.

    Best to eat small meals often, which keep your stomach small, your metabolism active, and your blood sugar stable.

    Fasting is almost always a very bad idea, for a long list of reasons.

    One of the best ways to slow your metabolism to a crawl is not eating. Sometimes, you have to apply some common sense in your thinking.
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    Jun 07, 2009 9:09 AM GMT
    Hey icon_smile.gif I think the question is more about your objectives. Are you looking to solve a specific problem or just interested in giving your metabolism a rest?

    I've tried juice fasts in the past for 4-5 days at a time. Felt kind of lousy around day 2 (headaches), but after that I found myself to be very clear-headed and full of energy. It's a strange phenomenon.

    I wouldn't recommend it long term or doing it very often. Your body needs food in order to function properly. The main issues to look at in my opinion are what you're eating and the quantity. It's very easy these days to eat junk and portion sizes have become much larger over the years.

    Triggering our body's emergency responses to hunger, stress, etc., should be done in moderation. Once in a while is probably fine, too often and the benefits can turn into problems.
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    Jun 07, 2009 9:54 AM GMT
    I copied this answer from Dr Weil about fasting.

    Q Is Fasting Right for You?
    I started fasting once a week, but I had to give it up because I was getting severe headaches. Could you suggest anything I can do to prevent the headaches and continue fasting?

    Answer (Published 9/29/2003)

    You don't say why you want to fast once a week. I have experimented with fasting one day a week as a useful physical and psychological discipline. Many people experience a clearer mental state and increased energy after a short-term fast. When I did my weekly one-day fasts, I consumed nothing but water or herb tea. The first thing I would ask is how much water you were drinking during your fast. You should be drinking at least eight 8- to 12-ounce glasses of water or unsweetened herbal tea. Drinking less than that might explain your headaches.


    I hope you were not fasting in an effort to lose weight. Fasting isn't an effective diet tool - it alters your metabolism in a way that actually may make it harder for you to lose weight. Most people compensate for the deprivation of the fast by increasing their caloric consumption afterward.


    If you're a coffee drinker or normally consume beverages that contain caffeine, your fasting headaches could be the result of caffeine withdrawal. If that's the case, I would suggest weaning yourself off caffeine before trying to fast again.

    Not everyone does well with fasting - thin people and those who are particularly sensitive to cold have a more difficult time. If that's the case, you probably should reconsider fasting. I would also caution about being overly active during a fast. Not only should you rest your digestive system, but you should also take time to rest your entire body. Too much physical activity during this time may also be a cause of headache.

    Andrew Weil, M.D.

    http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA300783
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    Jun 07, 2009 9:56 AM GMT
    Fasting is unhealthy.
  • eckilegs

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    Jun 07, 2009 12:09 PM GMT
    6 years back my mom got a cyst/tumor (don't remember which one it was), she tried doing the diet thing which didn't do much because she ALREADY eats REALLY healthy. She eventually had surgery and the growth was removed after it had reached the size of a full grown cantaloupe along with the ovary. She was out of commission for about 5-6 weeks to recover....

    The doctor said given the fact that she stays active and eats really well, it was a total fluke it happened to her at all. So you can imagine my everyone's shock when another growth began to form on her remaining ovary.

    K, this doesn't make any sense, but it's totally true. She went to this fasting clinic. She didn't eat for 2 consecutive weeks and on the 3rd week she was restricted to juices. By the time she left, the growth was completely gone. So while it sounds terrible/unhealthy/unsafe, it totally helped my mom out.
  • coolarmydude

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    Jun 07, 2009 12:17 PM GMT
    It sounds as if the author is treating food as the enemy when in reality, it's the behaviors of overeating and overindulging that are the problem.
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    Jun 07, 2009 8:03 PM GMT
    Pinny saidFasting is unhealthy.


    Why do you say this?
  • danisnotstr8

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    Jun 07, 2009 8:06 PM GMT
    kneedraggen said I copied this answer from Dr Weil about fasting.

    Q Is Fasting Right for You?
    I started fasting once a week, but I had to give it up because I was getting severe headaches. Could you suggest anything I can do to prevent the headaches and continue fasting?

    Answer (Published 9/29/2003)

    You don't say why you want to fast once a week. I have experimented with fasting one day a week as a useful physical and psychological discipline. Many people experience a clearer mental state and increased energy after a short-term fast. When I did my weekly one-day fasts, I consumed nothing but water or herb tea. The first thing I would ask is how much water you were drinking during your fast. You should be drinking at least eight 8- to 12-ounce glasses of water or unsweetened herbal tea. Drinking less than that might explain your headaches.



    http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA300783


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  • gr8hands4you

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    Jun 07, 2009 11:43 PM GMT
    Paul C. Bragg PHD. , first what is his PHD in??? How do I know he is credible? Is any of his background medical??? This brings to light a very important lesson. We watch all kind of so call experts in TV ads and on talk shows like Oprah. Look for a new thread in the forums. Sincerely Alan
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    Jun 10, 2009 7:38 PM GMT
    no one would want to see me fast...I become very GRUMPY and ANNOYED when hungry. People have been known to force feed me when I am hungry to avoid my darkside.icon_twisted.gif