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Jun 08, 2009 1:07 AM GMT
What are your thoughts on spirits and mediums? Have any of you had any experiences with them?
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Jun 08, 2009 1:43 AM GMT
I had my palm read once, it was total bullshit. I had my aura photographed, it was really pretty.
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Jun 08, 2009 1:56 AM GMT
Timberoo saidI had my palm read once, it was total bullshit. I had my aura photographed, it was really pretty. Hahaha... They probably went by "You're going to live a long life" and that jazz huh? But I mean mediums in the sense of talking to and seeing the dead. I personally think we all have this ability, just we can't do it at will. Working with psychics for a year... Changed my perspective on it. lol I thought they were bullshit when I started... Came out with a different view point when one of my co-workers started to commune with my grandmother which I told no one about. |
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Jun 08, 2009 2:36 AM GMT
some bottles of home brewed spirits and medium to well-done burgers are great in my opinion
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Jun 08, 2009 2:44 AM GMT
I went to a psychic with my (female) friend Jackie. She told us we would marry and have 4 children. We laughed so hard I tipped her extra.
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Jun 08, 2009 3:00 AM GMT
On Spirits: Whether or not they exist in any objective form, their existence is incidental to ours so it's really not worth the effort bothering with.
On Mediums: Roughly 75% of advertised mediums are hoaxes, 20% are well-meaning but delusional, and 5% genuine. If a person claims to be a medium, demand a demonstration with full knowledge of controls and variables.
Now, if we're talking about spirits in the sense of the vital essence of departed humans - revenants - I couldn't really comment on much other than my belief (or lack thereof) in a personal soul which would imply a form of eternalism at odds with the impermanent nature of reality.
I do think it possible, though unlikely, that some aspect of an individual may remain in static space for a time after the death of an individual, however that essence would be lacking in mental continuum and could be viewed as little more than an etheric recording in space. This "recording" could possibly be picked up by individuals with either natural or trained sensitivity to vibrational frequencies.
Holding a seance for dear Auntie Em and having her appear would be a greater testament to the creativity of human consciousness and shared meaning than anything necessarily supernatural. However, if you get something out of it and become a better person for it - by all means go ahead and experiment.
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Jun 08, 2009 3:17 AM GMT
A few months back one morning I was on my way to my sisters house. I saw a sign that said two mediums for the price of one. Took me a few to realize it was a pizza place. LOL Is it sad that it actually happened? Several years ago I saw a psychic here in Austin. It was actually a birthday present to myself in 2005. I won't get into the why I went but it was very enlightening. He records the sessions and gives you the tapes (which I still have) so you can go back and review them. I did a Life Reading session lasted about two hours. I figured if I am going to do it I might as well go all the way. He had told me that it can be intense and a first timer needs to understand that. I told him it would be okay. I make it a point to not give any answers and watch for leading questions. He proved very quickly that he didn't need to do that and most of what he said was spot on. Here is his website: http://www.joenicols.com/consultations.htmlHe was the second one that told me that I have tremendous psychic potential but afraid to use it. Which was absolutely true at that time. I have thought about going to see him again. Another time I had a tarot card reading in San Antonio when I still lived there and about to move out to California which would have been in 1999. This guy I was kind of seeing took me. The guy used three decks and the only thing I really remember is without telling him about my move he told me that I was moving far away and to make sure I checked my car. Well I did check my car and I absolutely would have been stranded somewhere on the drive from San Antonio to San Fransisco. |
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Jun 08, 2009 4:15 AM GMT
jprichva saidI went to a psychic with my (female) friend Jackie. She told us we would marry and have 4 children. We laughed so hard I tipped her extra. Maybe her crystal ball was picking up episodes of jerry springer  |
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Jun 08, 2009 4:54 AM GMT
I don't really believe there's any afterlife, so not much stock in either spirits or mediums. There are the odd cases where some people have an eerie insight into another persons life, but I don't know that that has anything to do with the dearly departed.
One of my friends believes in all this quite fervently, and is sure an online connection was foretold to him by a palm reader -- apparently some of the aspects of it were quite accurate, but she (the reader) could not ascertain that he was gay, and thought the online interest would be female, which to me throws the whole things into question, but that's me who's overall a cynic.
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Jun 08, 2009 4:59 AM GMT
I am a ghost hunter here in GA. I do believe in the paranormal.
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Jun 08, 2009 5:04 AM GMT
i've had numerous encounters with quan yin, ganesh, and apollo. and have met some spiritual guides. and did a past life reading
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Jun 08, 2009 10:37 AM GMT
Mmmm...  My mom dragged me to a reading once when I was still in high school. She was a family friend and a university teacher. They were talking outside and mom just pulled me and put my hand in her lap. She told me two things: "A girl will court me" (which happened a year later in college) "You will never be rich" (Oh hey, thanks... wait... what?! LOL) Also during the spiritual retreat pre-graduation, one of the senior students had this "possession" thing going on during a game downstairs in the hostel the school group were staying on. It was... funny. LOL Looked more like a panic attack to me. Everyone was praying and shit and some of the girls were crying, crazy stuff. That said, no, I don't believe in the supernatural... at all. |
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Jun 08, 2009 12:15 PM GMT
calibro saidsome bottles of home brewed spirits and medium to well-done burgers are great in my opinion I would say ... I like strong spirits... medium isn't quite sufficient enough. |
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Jun 08, 2009 12:28 PM GMT
sprinkle sea salt on your window ledge. prevents spirits from entering your house. Do the same from your door jam. Red crushed brick can also protect you. I believe in spirits as my family is from a voodoo / Kumina background.
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Jun 08, 2009 1:06 PM GMT
tereseus1 saidsprinkle sea salt on your window ledge. prevents spirits from entering your house. Do the same from your door jam. Red crushed brick can also protect you. I believe in spirits as my family is from a voodoo / Kumina background. can you put the juju on someone for me? |
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Jun 08, 2009 6:22 PM GMT
jackofhearts46 saidi've had numerous encounters with quan yin, ganesh, and apollo. and have met some spiritual guides. and did a past life reading Ganesh... That's a name I haven't heard of in a while. How many encounters did you say? |
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Jun 08, 2009 6:31 PM GMT
Wheeeeeeeeeee!  |
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Jun 08, 2009 7:03 PM GMT
LMAO, first thing that came to mind when i read this thread is the movie 'Ghost' when Whoopi Goldburg gets possessed by a black man and tries to talk shit to his living wife lol  |
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Jun 08, 2009 8:32 PM GMT
jprichva saidI went to a psychic with my (female) friend Jackie. She told us we would marry and have 4 children. We laughed so hard I tipped her extra. I know a process server who works for lawyers who do collection suits. The phone co. was suing businesses for nonpayment of yellow pages listings. He got to the "P" section and had to serve some psychics. He'd approach them and say "I have something for you and I bet you can't guess what this is." None "saw" that they were being sued. Their spirit guides must not have been paid either. |
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Jun 08, 2009 8:41 PM GMT
TexDef07 saidjprichva saidI went to a psychic with my (female) friend Jackie. She told us we would marry and have 4 children. We laughed so hard I tipped her extra.
I know a process server who works for lawyers who do collection suits. The phone co. was suing businesses for nonpayment of yellow pages listings. He got to the "P" section and had to serve some psychics. He'd approach them and say "I have something for you and I bet you can't guess what this is." None "saw" that they were being sued.
Their spirit guides must not have been paid either. LMAO! Most won't see that. Usually doesn't work that way. I haven't met one nor do I claim to be one that knows all and sees all, but that's just funny right there. |
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Jun 08, 2009 11:11 PM GMT
Sebastian18“Now, if we're talking about spirits in the sense of the vital essence of departed humans - revenant s - I couldn't really comment on much other than my belief (or lack thereof) in a personal soul which would imply a form of eternalism at odds with the impermanent nature of reality.”
NICELY put!
”I do think it possible, though unlikely, that some aspect of an individual may remain in static space for a time after the death of an individual, however that essence would be lacking in mental continuum and could be viewed as little more than an etheric recording in space. This "recording" could possibly be picked up by individuals with either natural or trained sensitivity to vibrational frequencies.”
But does the intensity of the etheric recording diminish with time? Is it possible that it would be sustained, or maybe even influenced, by the thoughts and feelings of the living? You say it lacks in mental continuum. Then what motivates its actions (in the case of a haunting, or if there is a relevant message from beyond the grave?) If the person is no longer involved in full thinking processes, then does the ghost of the person participate in the ghost of a thinking process – something hollow and surreal, a mimicry of what that person would have most likely done in life, in that situation, like the echo of a personality acting itself out into . . . nothing?
”Holding a seance for dear Auntie Em and having her appear would be a greater testament to the creativity of human consciousness and shared meaning than anything necessarily supernatural. However, if you get something out of it and become a better person for it - by all means go ahead and experiment.”
I’d rather people did not. Product of human creativity or not, everything that comes out of these doors does leave an unnatural footprint in the natural world. But hey . . . live and let live.
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Jun 09, 2009 12:08 AM GMT
the_others said
I’d rather people did not. Product of human creativity or not, everything that comes out of these doors does leave an unnatural footprint in the natural world. But hey . . . live and let live.
People never close the corners after communing with the dead. Dragon's Blood incense and obsidian on your window ledge, OR bay leaves in the corners of the house... It keeps them out. Or just light a basic white candle. The supernatural is natural. The reason why it's called supernatural is that it extends beyond nature at this point and time and we don't know everything about it. |
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Jun 09, 2009 5:04 AM GMT
[quote][cite]But does the intensity of the etheric recording diminish with time? Is it possible that it would be sustained, or maybe even influenced, by the thoughts and feelings of the living? You say it lacks in mental continuum. Then what motivates its actions (in the case of a haunting, or if there is a relevant message from beyond the grave?) If the person is no longer involved in full thinking processes, then does the ghost of the person participate in the ghost of a thinking process – something hollow and surreal, a mimicry of what that person would have most likely done in life, in that situation, like the echo of a personality acting itself out into . . . nothing?
I’d rather people did not. Product of human creativity or not, everything that comes out of these doors does leave an unnatural footprint in the natural world. But hey . . . live and let live.
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It would stand to reason that the intensity would diminish over time unless somehow sustained, however I'm entirely uncertain as to how it would sustain itself given its indeterminate half-life (pun intended). Perhaps, being "fed" by human or other interaction the etheric shell could start acting over time in much the same way as an intelligent computer, though it would be lacking in any sentience of its own.
It's my belief, though, that once dead the individual is dead and the components that put it together are eventually redistributed throughout the cosmos in one way shape or form in much the same way organic material breaks down even to a molecular level and is ultimately resorted. No need for a modus operandi when everything is put somewhere else.
Personally, I think it would be a great benefit if interested parties would experiment with aspects of the metaphysical realm, both in theory and in practice. At some point we may actually end up finding something out or realize that we've been chasing our tails around in circles for the past couple thousand years. Either way, there's only increase in knowledge which can never be a bad thing since entropy seems to be law in our universe as we know it.
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Jun 09, 2009 5:04 AM GMT
I do not believe in any spirits or mediums or anything typically labelled as "paranormal". Simply no good evidence for such extraordinary claims.
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Jun 09, 2009 5:05 AM GMT
Delivis saidI do not believe in any spirits or mediums or anything typically labelled as "paranormal". Simply no good evidence for such extraordinary claims. you need to experience it for yourself. Seriously  |
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Jun 09, 2009 5:15 AM GMT
adaminmarietta saidDelivis saidI do not believe in any spirits or mediums or anything typically labelled as "paranormal". Simply no good evidence for such extraordinary claims.
you need to experience it for yourself. Seriously Experience what, exactly? I have met many people who claim to be able to channel spirits and talk to ghosts and claim to cure anything by waving crystals over someone. Most of these people, as far as I can tell, are genuine believers, not charletains (though there are some of those out there too). But none have ever been able to produce for me anything approaching good evidence. The best evidence anyone in this area ever offers is some anecdotes. |
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Jun 09, 2009 5:17 AM GMT
Oh, such a fanciful post. .................................. |
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Jun 09, 2009 5:18 AM GMT
Delivis saidadaminmarietta saidDelivis saidI do not believe in any spirits or mediums or anything typically labelled as "paranormal". Simply no good evidence for such extraordinary claims.
you need to experience it for yourself. Seriously
Experience what, exactly?
I have met many people who claim to be able to channel spirits and talk to ghosts and claim to cure anything by waving crystals over someone. Most of these people, as far as I can tell, are genuine believers, not charletains (though there are some of those out there too). But none have ever been able to produce for me anything approaching good evidence. The best evidence anyone in this area ever offers is some anecdotes. This is my ghosthunting myspace, check out the pictures http://www.myspace.com/paranormalparanoids |
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Jun 09, 2009 5:27 AM GMT
adaminmarietta saidDelivis saidadaminmarietta saidDelivis saidI do not believe in any spirits or mediums or anything typically labelled as "paranormal". Simply no good evidence for such extraordinary claims.
you need to experience it for yourself. Seriously
Experience what, exactly?
I have met many people who claim to be able to channel spirits and talk to ghosts and claim to cure anything by waving crystals over someone. Most of these people, as far as I can tell, are genuine believers, not charletains (though there are some of those out there too). But none have ever been able to produce for me anything approaching good evidence. The best evidence anyone in this area ever offers is some anecdotes.
This is my ghosthunting myspace, check out the pictures
http://www.myspace.com/paranormalparanoids I went through a couple pages of them...didnt see anything anomolous. Perhaps post your best 2-3 "ghost" photos here? You can use IMG tags to post pics right into this thread. |
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Jun 09, 2009 5:30 AM GMT
Delivis saidadaminmarietta saidDelivis saidadaminmarietta saidDelivis saidI do not believe in any spirits or mediums or anything typically labelled as "paranormal". Simply no good evidence for such extraordinary claims.
you need to experience it for yourself. Seriously
Experience what, exactly?
I have met many people who claim to be able to channel spirits and talk to ghosts and claim to cure anything by waving crystals over someone. Most of these people, as far as I can tell, are genuine believers, not charletains (though there are some of those out there too). But none have ever been able to produce for me anything approaching good evidence. The best evidence anyone in this area ever offers is some anecdotes.
This is my ghosthunting myspace, check out the pictures
http://www.myspace.com/paranormalparanoids
I went through a couple pages of them...didnt see anything anomolous. Perhaps post your best 2-3 "ghost" photos here? You can use IMG tags to post pics right into this thread. http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=397096493&albumID=1196741&imageID=13879444# |
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Jun 09, 2009 5:38 AM GMT
Here, let me help...  I see a little bit of light there....is that supposed to be a ghost? I think we need a working definition of ghost here first. |
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Jun 09, 2009 5:39 AM GMT
Delivis saidHere, let me help...
I see a little bit of light there....is that supposed to be a ghost? I think we need a working definition of ghost here first. That window was a good 25 feet away and it was pitch black in there. How did a profile of a face appear in the window pane |
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Jun 09, 2009 5:43 AM GMT
I dont see any face. If you do, might i suggest that this could be a case of pareidolia.
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Jun 09, 2009 5:44 AM GMT
Delivis saidI dont see any face. If you do, might i suggest that this could be a case of pareidolia. I have had many people tell me it looks like a face. You should go on a ghost hunt, serious. Not a fake on, but one that deals with science and not myth or supersition |
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Jun 10, 2009 6:51 PM GMT
I am a psychoanalysts dream. Where some people believe in the supernatural, I experience it all the time. This isn’t the same as believing in it. I cannot afford to believe in anything I experience – they’d have to up my dose if I did. You can experience something that isn’t necessarily “real” (and even “real” is a relative term); you can choose to see through it as a product of something more powerful and tangible than imagination – but no less harmless. I hope. So, if I find my astral self being brutalized around the room by 9-foot tall demons (I’ve had this experience) or hovering over the edge of existence about to be sucked into the Abyss (I’ve had this non-experience), I remind myself that the experience may be just very vivid, very lucid dream. The alternative is this: I’m fucked.  |
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Jun 10, 2009 10:01 PM GMT
adaminmarietta saidDelivis saidHere, let me help...
I see a little bit of light there....is that supposed to be a ghost? I think we need a working definition of ghost here first.
That window was a good 25 feet away and it was pitch black in there. How did a profile of a face appear in the window pane This does look like a genuine shot. Except there are some things I would like to ask: 1. Did the photographer actually see the image at the window before the shot was taken, if so, did it wait for the shot to be taken before vanishing? 2 If the room was dark and there was nothing abnormal to be seen anywhere, what was the original subject of the picture? Why take a picture of a darkened room in the first place? 3. If the house was reputed to be haunted, did the photographer take a pot luck snap, hoping that something would turn up? If so, either he was extremely lucky to catch that window image, or he would have taken hundreds, maybe thousands of snaps before this one. As for myself, I do have an interest in the supernatural. I actually do believe in discarnates. On a recent post, I related on an experience I had when sleeping in a hostel, I woke up to feel a hand on my back (I was belly down on the mattress). I was actually with a friend who was doing some fell hiking with me, and I thought the sensation was his hand on my back. When I asked him whether he laid his hand on me during the night, he looked puzzled and denied doing so. Later, I found out that this Tudor house did have a residential ghost. The hostel referred to here is YHA Kendal, UK. But having said that, there is a lot of fakery put on, usually to make money. For example, if at a seance, what you expect to happen does happen, thats a sure guarantee of fakery, and you might as well ask for your money back. Discarnates don't wail through a hidden speaker behind the curtain, nor do they brush objects at your face or hair in a very dark room. Neither is it necessary to remove your socks and shoes and touch each other's toes.The "odd foot" that is felt is not a ghost! |
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Jun 14, 2009 1:35 AM GMT
My mother a complete believer in the stuff. Sometimes I wonder if it's real.
It's nice to believe in some stuff that isn't exactly empirical.
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Jun 14, 2009 1:54 AM GMT
Damn it! I thought this would be another thread about alcoholic drinks. You're so misleading, OP!
Anyways. Since I'm here, I might as well mention that I hypnotized someone to a time when they first played with the Ouija board and there were some supernatural things that happened during the hypnosis.
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Jun 16, 2009 12:03 PM GMT
coolarmydude saidI hypnotized someone to a time when they first played with the Ouija board and there were some supernatural things that happened during the hypnosis. LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKE? |
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Jun 16, 2009 12:42 PM GMT
Pheo saidjackofhearts46 saidi've had numerous encounters with quan yin, ganesh, and apollo. and have met some spiritual guides. and did a past life reading
Ganesh... That's a name I haven't heard of in a while. How many encounters did you say? mostly when i work with him. rather nice and jolly fellow, very laid back, at least for me. each persons interactions are different |
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Jun 17, 2009 7:45 AM GMT
coolarmydude saidDamn it! I thought this would be another thread about alcoholic drinks. You're so misleading, OP!
Anyways. Since I'm here, I might as well mention that I hypnotized someone to a time when they first played with the Ouija board and there were some supernatural things that happened during the hypnosis. xD I dun think drinking would be spiritual, however some people find more phenomenon incapacitated. I've been known to see things quite a bit when I'm dazed or asleep, sometimes when I'm drunk I see some strange things, but not often. Delivis, we experience the supernatural all the time. Emotions ARE supernatural. We know what causes them, through stimuli, however... Why does it react this way? More so, where do these feelings come from? A chemical in the brain? If so, then we are machines. Programmed and not abiding by free will and true logic. We would not have the will to do things. The strive other than what a chemical in our brains say. Even this proves it though? Why would said chemical affect us so and make us feel? How and why would these feelings persist with a chemical that gradually is flushed from our systems? Too many questions of 'logical' science. Supernatural are things that exist in nature that is not explained by the laws of natural logic. There's unexplained things everywhere. Finding a 20 dollar bill... Where did it come from. How long has it been there? Were you meant to find it? Did someone drop it, or leave it? You can logically explain it, however.... It's still unexplained of which scenario it actually is. There are no boundaries between nature and the supernatural. None because these things reside with each other. If you don't experience them doesn't mean they don't exist. I haven't met someone who can kiss, does that mean the world is full of bad kissers? Odd example, but it's accurate. |
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Jun 19, 2009 4:25 PM GMT
Pheo said
There are no boundaries between nature and the supernatural. None because these things reside with each other. And possibly, these things reside within one another. |
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Jun 19, 2009 4:31 PM GMT
when you believe in things
that you don't understand
then you suffer
superstition aint the way
no no no
Stevie Wonder
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Jun 19, 2009 5:10 PM GMT
Frank Peretti's This Present Darkness messed me up. I'm afraid of spirit guides. They're demons. Demons!
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Jun 21, 2009 3:54 PM GMT
Timberoo saidI had my palm read once, it was total bullshit. I had my aura photographed, it was really pretty. Do this for fun: Whenever you open a Chinese fortune cookie, add the words “In Bed” to whatever prophecy is written there. Eg. You will have an electric appliance fixed… in bed You will resolve an argument with a friend… in bed You will make much money… in bed Can anyone think of any typical predictions? Please write them out and add in bed at the end  |
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Jun 21, 2009 4:49 PM GMT
Just my opinion, if I can't touch it, see it, taste it, smell it, hear it, etc. it's not real
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Jun 22, 2009 5:58 AM GMT
The Air Force and Navy know how to create near death experiences, where you see and walk into the "light." It's called hypoxia. It's easy to create at high G forces in a jet, in a race car, in a centrifuge, or if your lungs have failed, or your heart has stopped. My mom also experienced "the light" when her lungs failed from COPD.
No, it wasn't God. It was OXYGEN DEPRIVATION.
The Air Force has studied it extensively and it happens when the brain shuts down all but the most critical parts of the brain. The light is caused when the back part of the brain (I forgot the name) goes into an all on mode in certain areas, and an all-off mode, in other areas, during oxygen deprivation. It's good science and can be duplicated any time, and is observable using scanning MRIs.
Nope, it's not the supernatural. It's just the brain gasping for life, and going into standby mode.
Are there things we don't understand around us? Sure. Does that mean we should have false belief systems? Of course, not. We should have logical beliefs with a basis in sound science.
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Jun 22, 2009 6:02 AM GMT
Most spirits tend to steer clear of me. I give them the creeps.
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Jun 22, 2009 6:10 AM GMT
No, but the devil made me do it.
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Jun 22, 2009 6:33 AM GMT
hmmm....
well, when my best friend died 4 years ago, I was in a level of emotional pain that I had never experienced before and I was willing to try just about anything, without taking any kind of medicine, to decrease the pain. I went to a couple psychics and card readers that some friends recommended. I wanted to talk to my best friend so bad and even if there was just a tiny chance of that being possible I wanted to try it. I honestly found the experiences to be more harmful than helpful. The information that they gave me was totally wrong.
Last month, I put together a graduation party for dkonfrost. One of the people that i hired was a psychic. I just hired her for fun because I thought it would be fun to hear what she had to say about dkonfrost's job prospects. One of my neighbors came up to me to thank me for hiring the psychic. She was so moved. She told me that her father was speaking through the psychic and she was able to ask some very important questions that she wanted to ask him and get some answers. She said that she knew that it was her father because she said things that only her father would know. When she told me that, it made me want to try it. I was not going to at first. But I did. And I will say that she did say a couple things that only my best friend would say. She did not give me any critical information. But I was not really looking for that at the time either. I don't know what to say about it. I don't really believe in an afterlife. I don't have any explainations for my friends experiences either. I do know that she was being honest with me though.
One of my friends told me years ago after I spoke to the other psychics that psychics are not really speaking to the dead. He believes that they are reading peoples minds. I'm not going to say that I believe that explaination either. He told me that he does beleive that it is possible but not in the US. He told me that he knows real ones are in Indonesia and they do not charge.
I have a neighbor that has told me things that have happened to her. At the lowest part of her life, probably over 20 years ago, she was recently divorced, had 2 young children to take care of, and life was just going really bad. She was waiting for the bus at a bus stop and a taxi stopped and asked her if she wanted a free ride. She was not thinking clearly and accepted with her kids. The taxi driver took her to where she wanted to go and during the ride, the taxi driver said that driver said that he occasionally gets these messages and that he needed to tell her something. The taxi driver gave her the message and it turned out to be correct. It happened to her again in a department store, an elderly man was with his wife and he came over to her to give her a message and the information that he gave her about something that was going to occur to make things better turned out to be correct as well.
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Jun 25, 2009 12:04 AM GMT
wyrln saidFrank Peretti's This Present Darkness messed me up. I'm afraid of spirit guides. They're demons. Demons! So you don't listen to the little voices in your head saying if it's right or wrong? Those are in turn also 'spirit guides'. For religious followers thinking they're talking to God, who knows... Maybe they are. They're still talking to a spirit guide. God is a form of a spirit guide just as talking to yourself in your head to sort through problems. Demons are nothing more than turmoil-like energy forms. Even that's stretching the concept of what a demon is. I don't believe in the word let alone acknowledge their existence, however I do believe we have our OWN inner demons. Nothing spawned by a great evil. This is where that comes into mind. And ChunkyStud.. Why does our brain process images of the Other Side when our brains are entirely different in each mental aspect? Yes... It's hypoxia, however, why are all the NDE's very accurate to one another? They've done a study and each one has came out of it seeing not only the light, but most talking about other-worldly things. Things that cannot be explained by logic at this time. Logic and illogical are fine points. Each exist just as the_others said... Reside within each other just as the supernatural and nature does. I've been Pagan for over 14 years, science is applied to most of our beliefs. |
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Jun 25, 2009 12:09 AM GMT
I have lots of experience with spirits -I'm a bartender! *yuk-yuk-yuk* |
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Jun 25, 2009 10:05 PM GMT
kinetic saidI have lots of experience with spirits -I'm a bartender! *yuk-yuk-yuk*
Speaking of bars... A man died of poisoning in 1978. Belladonna. Keeps ordering the same drink at the bar he died at on his death anniversary. Strange that alcohol and 'spirits' are more related than you might think as a bartender. Another fun fact... Belladonna is a distant relative to the hops, which hops are used to make beer. ;) Belladonna is also known as nightshade, or deadly nightshade. Strange, no? |
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Jul 02, 2009 12:02 AM GMT
Pheo saidSo you don't listen to the little voices in your head saying if it's right or wrong? Those are in turn also 'spirit guides'. For religious followers thinking they're talking to God, who knows... Maybe they are. They're still talking to a spirit guide. God is a form of a spirit guide just as talking to yourself in your head to sort through problems. Demons are nothing more than turmoil-like energy forms. Even that's stretching the concept of what a demon is. I don't believe in the word let alone acknowledge their existence, however I do believe we have our OWN inner demons. Nothing spawned by a great evil. This is where that comes into mind. Yeah, I hear them. Most the time I either ignore them or do the exact opposite of what they say, or take a looooong time to do the right thing. Normally 50% of what I hear is "I told you so." And you're right about the source. It could be God, but it could be some other spirit, or it could just be me. |
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Jul 04, 2009 7:15 PM GMT
wyrln saidPheo saidSo you don't listen to the little voices in your head saying if it's right or wrong? Those are in turn also 'spirit guides'. For religious followers thinking they're talking to God, who knows... Maybe they are. They're still talking to a spirit guide. God is a form of a spirit guide just as talking to yourself in your head to sort through problems. Demons are nothing more than turmoil-like energy forms. Even that's stretching the concept of what a demon is. I don't believe in the word let alone acknowledge their existence, however I do believe we have our OWN inner demons. Nothing spawned by a great evil. This is where that comes into mind.
Yeah, I hear them. Most the time I either ignore them or do the exact opposite of what they say, or take a looooong time to do the right thing. Normally 50% of what I hear is "I told you so." And you're right about the source. It could be God, but it could be some other spirit, or it could just be me. Well ignoring them I feel would be a strong sense of confusion. Most of the time when I hear something that is right or wrong... I do what they say. If I have a bad feeling about a street, I walk a different one. Most of the time I dodge trouble that way. Second, not everything is evil. If you look at my religion, which is a mixture of many, I believe that Nature herself is neither good or evil. She's Chaotic. She has the essence of life, and she can take it away either by means of evolution or by her wrath to try and balance her cycles again. However if you read the works of Crowley and LeVey, which I don't think either men are evil, they have works on summoning the spirits of 'demons' and other-worldly lifeforms. If that could happen, I would be using that mojo to make me rich and make all the guys fall in love with me. Buuuuuuuuut... We all know that's fake. Hahaha! Now using positive energy to help someone who's sick and things like that... That exists in everything. Almost all religions. So most religions have a lot of similarities. |
