REPUBLICANS CONTINUE TO HAVE IDENTIFICATION ISSUES WITH AMERICANS

  • HndsmKansan

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    Jun 10, 2009 5:32 PM GMT
    The Republican struggle continues:


    Poll: Majority unsure who speaks for the GOP
    Posted: 01:05 PM ET

    From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney


    Americans are unsure who speaks for the GOP, according to a new poll.
    WASHINGTON (CNN) – As the Republican Party struggles to regain its footing following the November elections, a new survey shows that a majority of adult Americans sees no clear leader for the minority political party.

    Even more problematic for the GOP is that one-third of Republicans hold an unfavorable view of their party, according to the USA Today/Gallup poll.

    When it comes to naming a “main person” who speaks for the GOP, 52 percent of Americans were unable to do so.

    Among those who did name a speaker for the GOP, 13 percent identified conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh, while 10 percent named former Vice President Dick Cheney. Arizona Sen. John McCain and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich were each named by 6 percent of Americans in the poll.

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    Just 3 percent said former President George W. Bush is currently the most prominent Republican speaker, while Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, and House Minority Leader John Boehner were each named by 1 percent of participants in the survey.

    “These numbers are troubling for Republicans, who are engaged in a civil war right over the ideological direction of the party,” said CNN Political Editor Mark Preston. “When one-third of Republicans hold an unfavorable view of the party, it makes it difficult to establish a united front to promote GOP policies at the same time opposing President Obama’s agenda.”

    A third of Republicans in the poll said the GOP should not moderate its policies in its quest to regain power.

    The poll surveyed 1,015 adults on May 29-31 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

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    Jun 10, 2009 5:41 PM GMT
    I hope it is Michelle Bachman. I love that woman. She can make something reasonable like scrambled eggs sound bat shit insane.
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    Jun 10, 2009 8:33 PM GMT
    Tides change, moods swing. The republicans will be the head of your nation again; it's only a matter of time.
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    Jun 10, 2009 8:37 PM GMT
    matey saidTides change, moods swing. The republicans will be the head of your nation again; it's only a matter of time.


    of course, we're a center leaning right nation. but it all happens while the pendulum swings
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    Jun 10, 2009 8:52 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    jackofhearts46 said
    of course, we're a center leaning right nation. but it all happens while the pendulum swings

    No, we're not, no matter how many times you hear it from Hannity and Limbaugh.


    historically speaking we're a center nation that has tended to be elect more conservative officials. and i don't hear it from talk show hosts, i just love studying history.
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    Jun 10, 2009 8:52 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidI hope it is Michelle Bachman. I love that woman. She can make something reasonable like scrambled eggs sound bat shit insane.


    she is a nut job
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jun 10, 2009 9:01 PM GMT
    The republicans continue to struggle because they have become too conservative especially on social issues. Many Americans are seeing the GOP as too far to the right. It is time for the GOP to wake up and realize that they can no longer be dominated by both bloodthirsty warmongers and narrow-minded, bible thumping screwballs. They need to move towards the center on social and moral issues.
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    Jun 10, 2009 9:50 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    MunchingZombie saidI hope it is Michelle Bachman. I love that woman. She can make something reasonable like scrambled eggs sound bat shit insane.

    I agree. We should all donate to her re-election campaign fund. I adore her. She is completely psychotic. But fun!


    Yes, we are super proud of her here in MN icon_rolleyes.gif.
    I saw her at the grocery store recently and I couldn't decide if I wanted to strangle her or hug her. She's sort of amazing.
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    Jun 10, 2009 9:50 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    jackofhearts46 said
    historically speaking we're a center nation that has tended to be elect more conservative officials. and i don't hear it from talk show hosts, i just love studying history.

    Historically speaking, the last 30 years have been an aberration. From the Populist movement, to the Progessive era (1900-1916, roughly) through the New Deal and the Great Society, we were a center-left nation. And even when Reagan was elected, it wasn't an endorsement of conservatism, it was an anti-Carter vote. Until Carter's failed rescue attempt of the Iranian hostages, he was leading Reagan by a wide margin.

    No, the country is just re-asserting itself now. We've never been a "center-right" country.


    i was thinking since the conception of the nation. we've been a federalist capitalist nation with nationalistic undertones. the progressive era was a fluke, it and populism never took off. it was only because of the great depression that socialist programs could take hold. and we all see how the great society and war against poverty is going.
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    Jun 10, 2009 9:53 PM GMT
    They need to get there heads out of their own ass and realize there way of thinking don't cut it any more.icon_exclaim.gif
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    Jun 10, 2009 10:46 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    jackofhearts46 said
    i was thinking since the conception of the nation. we've been a federalist capitalist nation with nationalistic undertones. the progressive era was a fluke, it and populism never took off. it was only because of the great depression that socialist programs could take hold. and we all see how the great society and war against poverty is going.

    Well, you tipped your hand there.
    The New Deal was not socialist, it was enacted to prevent socialism from getting a serious toehold in this country, a very real danger in 1933.

    But since you're parroting this misinformation, it's clear where you're getting it and what your politics are. No wonder you think what you do.


    i can see how social welfare programs including social security aren't socialist. and forgive me, but having worked at a history museum for the past 5 years, and having been a much more recent student of history, my history is probably less misinformed than most.
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    Jun 10, 2009 10:59 PM GMT
    jackofhearts46 said, "historically speaking we're a center nation that has tended to be elect more conservative officials. and i don't hear it from talk show hosts, i just love studying history."


    Ummm....icon_idea.gif...history shows that we've progressed significantly over the years: No more slavery, women allowed to vote, Civil Rights....these are left successes.
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    Jun 10, 2009 11:09 PM GMT
    jackofhearts46 saidi can see how social welfare programs including social security aren't socialist. and forgive me, but having worked at a history museum for the past 5 years, and having been a much more recent student of history, my history is probably less misinformed than most.

    Just to butt in quickly:
    Do keep in mind that it's the validity of your argument or evidence that matters, not your major or your occupation. Referring to reliable historical sources would strengthen your points far more than brandishing your credentials.
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    Jun 11, 2009 12:06 AM GMT
    Tides change, moods swing. The republicans will be the head of your nation again; it's only a matter of time.

    The sad thing is that this is probably true
    But I hope I am dead by then because at the Fuck Up rate they have had this time they'll ruin us
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    Jun 11, 2009 12:08 AM GMT
    coolarmydude saidjackofhearts46 said, "historically speaking we're a center nation that has tended to be elect more conservative officials. and i don't hear it from talk show hosts, i just love studying history."


    Ummm....icon_idea.gif...history shows that we've progressed significantly over the years: No more slavery, women allowed to vote, Civil Rights....these are left successes.


    they are 'left' successes, however when you call them successes they become the exception to the rule. i'm not saying that progressivism and populism are bad things, i'm a leftist myself. now can i say we as a country are becoming more liberal, but we have to depart from a certain point and that point is just right of center. it's been shifting over the centuries, but we're not left of center yet.
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    Jun 11, 2009 12:23 AM GMT
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    jprichva said
    MunchingZombie saidI hope it is Michelle Bachman. I love that woman. She can make something reasonable like scrambled eggs sound bat shit insane.

    I agree. We should all donate to her re-election campaign fund. I adore her. She is completely psychotic. But fun!


    Yes, we are super proud of her here in MN icon_rolleyes.gif.
    I saw her at the grocery store recently and I couldn't decide if I wanted to strangle her or hug her. She's sort of amazing.


    Her, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, Cheney and even Gingrich now are the best things to happen to the Democrats in decades. We must keep these people talking at all costs. It's both funny and sad that the only one with enough sense to keep his mouth shut right now is Dubya.icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 11, 2009 12:43 AM GMT
    GQjock saidTides change, moods swing. The republicans will be the head of your nation again; it's only a matter of time.

    The sad thing is that this is probably true
    But I hope I am dead by then because at the Fuck Up rate they have had this time they'll ruin us


    I am hopeful that as the young generations rise and become the majority the country will see things quite differently. Will the GOP go away? Don't think so. I do think it's going to look a lot different if resurrected as opposed to new parties forming (which I would love to see!).
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    Jun 11, 2009 5:58 AM GMT
    I am not Republican or Democrat. I never register with either party. I am slightly right of center on fiscal issues and more than left of center on social issues. Hence, I have never signed up with either major party. I prefer to think and vote independently based on the candidate and the issue.

    That being said, history shows from the mid- 1960's that every time the Republicans are considered dead as a party they come roaring back. If history is any indicator, and it usually is a pretty good indicator, The R party will come back stronger than ever. It might not seem that way today or to young guys that are just now getting politically active, but I would not count the Republicans out based on the last elections. Tides turn, political parties win and lose and come in and out of favor.

    The last Gallup poll showed that the country is roughly 32% Democrat, 32% Republican, and 34% Independent. Among the Independents, they are split almost evenly as leaning Demo or Repub. Obviously in the last election, they leaned Democrat. But that can change quickly.

    All I am saying is do not think this election means much in the long run. It doesn't. The mood of voters can swing right if Obama makes a few missteps. I am not saying he has. I am just pointing out the history of elections in the USA. An election is not an indication of future voting. Neither party is dead just based on one election.