Our former Nebraska wrestlers gone porn stars are at it again!.....

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    Jun 15, 2009 12:47 AM GMT
    The boys stories were investigated and they are being interviewed on ESPN's "Outside the Lines" news article show on sunday at 9 AM (EDT)....not sure if it will be repeated tonight.... link to the story and a video clip....interesting, but opens up a few questions about all sides involved.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=4242983

    The photos that cost the boys their Nebraska wrestling careers:
    http://fleshbot.com/photogallery/fratmenwrestlers/

    The report comes across somewhat "slanted" and "anti-gay" at times.....the "boys"...can anyone really be that "naive", and not think someone on the net is going to figure it out?...I hear that Donohoe is actually going to be back on Fratmen.tv in the next few months.....I may need to get a subscription! LOL! icon_cool.gif
  • EricLA

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    Jun 15, 2009 2:13 AM GMT
    Yeah, Donahoe seemed to change his story, but the other guy was consistent all the way through. And I can see how a straight guy with no exposure to gay people might think that pics on a "homosexual website" as he called it might not get around. So, I could go either way on whether he was naive or not. But, the report was pretty damning about the program and some of the other things going on, but it really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that they'd cover up domestic battery or other assault charges team members had perpetrated, but drew the line at anything gay-related.
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    Jun 15, 2009 2:44 AM GMT
    Jordan is hysterical " I've only been arrested 3 times" I love it. It's clear by that statement what road they travel, However I love porn and jordans lips are hot! and Donahoe is cute ( now that he got a hair cut ) so who's to judge
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    Jun 15, 2009 2:58 AM GMT
    I am originally from Lincoln and met Coach Manning at a neighborhood BBQ. Very nice guy but I could see a wild side in him.

    Donahoe I think changed his story due to his relationship with a Nebraska asst coach and his attempt to make the 2012 Olympic team.

    Donahoe is a great looking guy though. icon_lol.gif
  • KissTheSky

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    Jun 15, 2009 3:28 AM GMT
    So many people are so hypocritical about porn. All men, gay and straight, look at porn in private, but then some of them turn around and pretend it's this shocking, shameful thing. icon_rolleyes.gif

    I wish one of the two wrestlers would have asked the interviewer, or any of their critiics, "hey, when was the last time you jacked off to internet porn? Today? Yesterday? Yeah, so get off your damn high horse about it."

    I worked at a bookstore and every month we would get about 10 Sports Illustrated magazines and two or three HUNDRED Hustlers. 10 Popular Mechanics and 200 Penthouse magazines. Someone's buying a lot of porn.
    America needs to grow up and stop doing one thing in private and pretending another thing in public.

    Those guys (the wrestlers) didn't do anything wrong or illegal. They have nothing to be ashamed of. Donahoe is now the nation's number one wrestler in his weight class, right? Sounds to me like he had the last laugh.

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    Jun 15, 2009 3:32 AM GMT
    Wow... they be HUNG. icon_eek.gif
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    Jun 15, 2009 3:53 AM GMT
    The only thing they did wrong was receive $$ from the site which is a NCAA infraction. Like both of them said they didn't think were going to grt caught.

  • Tiller66

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    Jun 15, 2009 4:04 AM GMT
    Well it's a good thing for someone they don't pop wood when they wrestle are they might get a bit distracted,I know I would icon_twisted.gif
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    Jun 15, 2009 4:11 AM GMT
    looks like they'll have something to fall back on.
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    Jun 15, 2009 4:17 AM GMT
    I've never been in an athletic "team" situation, So what kind of conversation happens in the locker room whenever the team shows up to change into or out of uniform and showers, etc, or if you are his opponent and start talking trash in the match? This has got to be a wild "conversation"....how would it feel if you were competing against someone that is legitimately among the best in your field and they had a "sidejob" in porn that you had seen or heard of? Lucky opponents get to grab a "handful" of his groin as a part of the match...would it be "distracting" to just be on campus and be recognized for the news reports and then from visits to the porn site? Would love to have been a fly on the wall when mom and dad and siblings and grandma/grandpa and the rest of the family saw the "body of work"....LOL!! icon_eek.gif
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    Jun 15, 2009 4:25 AM GMT
    Just watched the full segment. I had seen a clip of it, but in the full segment both kids come across a bit like spoiled, immature punks, especially Donahue, making empty childish threats and then "forgetting" what he said the first time around. Both had gotten in fights, sold Ipods gifts, and did porn. I'm not surprised they got kicked off a conservative school's wrestling team. I don't agree the porn is a big deal, because it's not, but in conjunction with everything else and their attitudes, I don't feel much sympathy for them. That said, clearly there are some double-standards & homophobia in the school's policies.
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    Jun 15, 2009 5:04 AM GMT
    Well, the boys were given a lot of rope, and their self-perception needs to be adjusted (but, then, successful folks often have a bit of a warped view of themselves which is integral to their success). That being said, (this was talked about in the other thread on this today), the boys likely would have been treated differently for a single instance of drinking, fighting, getting high, getting laid, etc.

    They had a long history of bad behavior, and Doctor Tom (Tom Osborne) and crew, had warned them a number of times. Boys will be boys, but, I think they both felt they were beyond reproach which is why Tom finally fired them. The remark "I've only been arrested (or was it in jail?) three times" was very telling. Then, when the other boy (and, they are BOYS) changed his story to save his politics, at the expense of truth, well, it's hard to respect them.

    Boys will be boys, but, some boys are bad. These kids needed a dose of reality.

    They both need spanked, and, while what they did wasn't so bad, their long history of having a shitty attitude (and it shows in the interviews on ESPN), and their long history of bad behavior got them fired.

    As someone who lived at 31'st and Holdrege in LNK (Lincoln, NE) for a number of years, worked for Gold's gym in Lincoln, and trained at UNL, and been in West Stadium Complex (the world's largest weight room), and had friends in the NSCA in Lincoln, I can assure you, had the boys needed money, food, companionship, etc., they would have gotten whatever they needed. I spent five years immersed among UNL athletes in Lincoln years ago. I KNOW about how much of their lives goes to the NCAA. It would be a difficult task for anyone, but, there's passion, ability, and work ethic, and luck, and these kids signed up for that, but, just got a bit out of control. (It's happened to many of us.)

    Doctor Tom spanked them, and, from all I've seen of their behavior, I'm inclined now, upon further examination, to believe they deserved it.

    Both boys have great bods, and I'm sure have the ability to provide quality adult entertainment. They won't be the first that stepped into the world of porn and got bitten.

    I think they felt it was fast money; no one would notice; it wasn't hurting anyone, etc. No harm in that.

    They just tested the system one to many times.

    Just as we don't have to employ someone who is fat, or smokes, you don't have to have your NCAA athletes doing porn. There is no right to the NCAA because you're VERY, VERY, good.

    The rules maybe aren't fair, but, there's some lines you don't cross, and they kinda' went there.

    I can imagine how embarrassed the athletic program was.

    Logically, what they did wasn't that bad. From the perspective of image management, having your dick all over The Internet, is NOT what UNL wanted the boys doing.

    There's enough money in Lincoln (and a training table at UNL) that the boys weren't going to miss any meals.

    Have other folks fucked up more? Hell, yes. But, these guys REALLY pissed off some folks. They were warned, over and over, and...then, they put their dicks on the air. That was a slap in the face to everything the program stands for. Tom had little choice but to let them go.

    I imagine, that deep down, the boys know that, too.

    It's a tough lesson. With brilliance, and ability, often, you have to learn humility. It can be a difficult thing.
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    Jun 15, 2009 8:29 AM GMT
    Kinda prudish of a university to be so upset. I mean they sell porn on campus!

    I wonder if this topic makes the prudes of RJ up set. I mean porn is soooo bad and well the dudes are hot so how can anyone like it? LOL

    Be bad...BE Happy!

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  • B71115

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    Jun 15, 2009 1:32 PM GMT
    i am surprised the ncaa didn't suspend them first. using those tools for leverage in a match would be like cheating. icon_eek.gif
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    Jun 15, 2009 2:09 PM GMT
    I think these boys knew or should have known very well what might happen if they did this. Having watched the interview, both of them seem about as dumb as a "box of rocks."

    I agree with the writer who said both "come across a bit like spoiled, immature punks." Did you hear the part about I've only been arrested three times? Hello? Would you hire someone to work in your business that had been arrested three times?

    And not gay? Please! They are VERY gay.

    I'm sure they're both going to have a great porn career ahead!

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    Jun 15, 2009 2:10 PM GMT
    i dont get it, wats the big deal about being naked? silly americans...
  • TonyD

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    Jun 15, 2009 2:49 PM GMT
    Watching porn allows people to escape difficult feelings...

    how many of us here have watched it due to wanting a distraction from some other boring/challenging task?

    In my view, the people who deem it shocking, are either jumping on a bandwagon of thought (so, they don't have to think for themselves) or know it be 'alluring' and 'seductive' to them as a way to get away from life.

    The 'arguing against porn' ('it's bad , its bad, IT'S BAD') is a way to NOT feel turned on or drawn to it. Arguing keeps one away from the difficult feelings.
    These people have no 'defenses' against sex's powerful draw...so they throw stones, create laws and deem it bad.

  • RSportsguy

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    Jun 15, 2009 2:57 PM GMT
    Even though I think that these 2 guys do come across as at best naive, I think that Nebraska looks foolish by using the 'character' clause to kick these guys out!
    Donahue is hot!!!! I love those eyes of his!! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 15, 2009 2:57 PM GMT
    EricLA saidYeah, Donahoe seemed to change his story, but the other guy was consistent all the way through. And I can see how a straight guy with no exposure to gay people might think that pics on a "homosexual website" as he called it might not get around. So, I could go either way on whether he was naive or not. But, the report was pretty damning about the program and some of the other things going on, but it really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that they'd cover up domestic battery or other assault charges team members had perpetrated, but drew the line at anything gay-related.


    I think he might have changed his story because he is going to tryout for the Olympic team in 2012.
  • torontoguy222...

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    Jun 15, 2009 3:01 PM GMT
    They're hot! Especially the first guy lol. I don't even see why this is a big deal. Fukin prudes. They did solo shots. No sex, no penetration, nothing. This should just be called "art" instead of "porn" so everyone can move on with their lives.
  • ShawnTX

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    Jun 15, 2009 7:19 PM GMT
    If they got paid to bang a chick on video it would have been hushed up, and failing that, they would have been given a temporary suspension. Accused of rape, same thing. It's only because it was for a gay porn site that people really have a problem with it, so the authorities used all the other infractions (that before this didn't seem to be too big of a problem) these boys incurred to get rid of them.
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    Jun 15, 2009 7:56 PM GMT
    I found it interesting that it is easier to get away with a crime than a NCAA violation. These guys violated NCAA rules which prohibit scholarship athletes from having jobs. Technically, they were paid for thier work. As such they could have endangered all sports scholarships at the university.

    I'm not sure I agree but these are the rules.
  • DrobUA

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    Jun 15, 2009 8:07 PM GMT
    BigSETXjock saidI think these boys knew or should have known very well what might happen if they did this. Having watched the interview, both of them seem about as dumb as a "box of rocks."

    I agree with the writer who said both "come across a bit like spoiled, immature punks." Did you hear the part about I've only been arrested three times? Hello? Would you hire someone to work in your business that had been arrested three times?

    And not gay? Please! They are VERY gay.

    I'm sure they're both going to have a great porn career ahead!



    I have a couple straight friends that have done solo shoots. Just because it's on a gay website doesn't mean they are gay. Now the "straight guys" fucking and getting fucked by other guys is a different story.

    Paul is cute but he is about as tall as my little sister.
  • DrobUA

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    Jun 15, 2009 8:12 PM GMT
    ohh and he's fucking this girl



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    Jun 15, 2009 8:15 PM GMT
    torontoguy2222 saidThey're hot! Especially the first guy lol. I don't even see why this is a big deal. Fukin prudes. They did solo shots. No sex, no penetration, nothing. This should just be called "art" instead of "porn" so everyone can move on with their lives.


    Agreed. Hot puppies. Pity they are straight.


    hehe


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