whats with men feeling ashamed by being gay(besides the christian perspective)

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    Jun 15, 2009 3:33 AM GMT
    I found growing up that I had no idea what gayin the wayt as i understand it now. I used to have feelings for friends growing up and i just thought in natural. I got to a point in kife where I learned that the nworld is not yet accepting . SO many months I have spent wondering y should I feel regret, I know theres nothing wrong.. it's just, my mom even told me when I came out to her when I was 14, she told me that she did'nt like it for the single fact that my life woulkd be that much harder. I knew what she ment and i picked up on people quickly after that. I'm told if I did'nt tell u i was gay, you would'nt know. And that right there makes me mad, I am me.. not an idea sspread by depraved generations of the past. Centries ago kings and great warriors were known to lay with a gentlemen and it was above normal, it was fine. There are many aspects to sexuality and having feeling for the same sex in my thoughts is much more dynamic then a simple relationship set for procreaton. There are deeper planes of emotion couples of the same sex can reach due to more closely relating with eachother. gaw i'm ranting notlooking for atack, just open-ended
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    Jun 15, 2009 3:40 AM GMT
    Preaching to the choir, my friend! ....now go forth and convert the great ignorant masses of Bigots and religious zealots, selectively picking and choosing the parts of humanity and religious or historical philosophy to apply for their view of the world.....icon_cool.gif
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    Jun 15, 2009 4:04 AM GMT
    Sporty_g saidPreaching to the choir, my friend! ....now go forth and convert the great ignorant masses of Bigots and religious zealots, selectively picking and choosing the parts of humanity and religious or historical philosophy to apply for their view of the world.....icon_cool.gif

    Let me chime in to the Choir Heavenly. I am quite confident that I am a good and righteous person. I also happen to be gay. Therefore, I conclude those 2 conditions are not mutually exclusive.
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    Jun 15, 2009 4:21 AM GMT
    jprichva saidWell, I for one am low, craven, slothful, deceitful, envious, covetous, and I don't honor my parents.

    But hell, I'd be that way if I were straight, too.


    I'd recognize you anywhere....DAD! LOL!
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    Jul 21, 2009 12:13 AM GMT
    The all-too common, automatic associations with:

    -Drag queens, S&M'ers, and assorted half-naked folk that come out to "represent" on Pride Day
    -Promiscuity (and the attached STD risk issues)
    -Anal sex
    -Effeminate behavior

    In my experience, most people see the above items as synonymous with the lifestyles of gay men, even where I live in so-called "progressive" Montreal.

    I mean no offense to anyone, but I find no appeal in these things.

    I know the anal sex thing will raise eyebrows, but yes, there are guys out there who are very happy with all the other intimate ways that two men can express their feelings for each other.
    We do seem to be a minority in the minority, but please don't hate, namecall, or diagnose me with something. icon_smile.gif

    I am attracted to men, but generally gravitate toward athletic guys who are clean-cut, masculine, and express a non-negotiable preference for loyalty and monogamy in their relationships.
    Kinda like me. icon_cool.gificon_lol.gif







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    Jul 21, 2009 2:41 PM GMT


    It's great that you can stand proud and sing frm the roof tops!