For those of you who voted for Mr Obama:

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    Jun 18, 2009 3:07 AM GMT
    It's now to late to complain about him, and he's not fulfilling your wants, quick enough.

    People did try to warn you, but even though you have hearing, you were deaf to their warnings. So now it's time to deal with your actions, or your vote.

    So Mr Obama is in no rush to give the homosexuals, and lesbians, full equality in Jesus land, the USA; surprise. He knows this will cost him the next election, if he was to do so. I'm sure he is more interested in being re- elected, than forfilling your want.

    Maybe if you had voted for the better of the USA, and not your own wants, you would not be so disappointed at this time.

    If you had of voted for Mr McCain, you would of knowing where you stood. In fact you knew where you stood before the election, But Was Mr Obama ever transparent on his agenda with homosexual, and lesbian issues, or the Advancement of homosexual, lesbian issues?

    Or did you assume, he would fulfil your want?
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    Jun 18, 2009 3:13 AM GMT
    matey saidIf you had of voted for Mr McCain, you would of knowing where you stood.

    Correct, in deeper shit than we are now. How is that a better solution?

    BTW, aren't you Pattison, and not even a US citizen?
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    Jun 18, 2009 3:14 AM GMT
    If you voted for Mr Obama for the wrong reason, don't blame him for not fulfilling you wish, as there are many others with diffrent wishes he needs to please too.
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    Jun 18, 2009 4:01 AM GMT
    Obama is moving in the right direction with the extension of benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees...Not as fast as we would all like it to be moving--
    Obama states he is in support of Civil Marriage ...

    I don't understand why you are trying to point out that at least with McCain we knew he was anti-gay... I would rather elect a President who is more open minded toward gay civil rights that a man who states he believes same-sex marriage should never be legal.
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    Jun 18, 2009 5:17 AM GMT
    Did you vote for someone who might possibly help you, but with uncertainty?

    Did you vote for someone you knew would screw you over and you could be sure about it?

    I think optimistic uncertainty is better than pessimistic certainty.
    Maybe some people would rather know where they are vilified by their candidate than be hopeful for equality.
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    Jun 18, 2009 5:29 AM GMT
    matey saidIt's now to late to complain about him, and he's not fulfilling your wants, quick enough.

    People did try to warn you, but even though you have hearing, you were deaf to their warnings. So now it's time to deal with your actions, or your vote.

    So Mr Obama is in no rush to give the homosexuals, and lesbians, full equality in Jesus land, the USA; surprise. He knows this will cost him the next election, if he was to do so. I'm sure he is more interested in being re- elected, than forfilling your want.

    Maybe if you had voted for the better of the USA, and not your own wants, you would not be so disappointed at this time.

    If you had of voted for Mr McCain, you would of knowing where you stood. In fact you knew where you stood before the election, But Was Mr Obama ever transparent on his agenda with homosexual, and lesbian issues, or the Advancement of homosexual, lesbian issues?

    Or did you assume, he would fulfil your want?


    Are you leaning towards..... McCain and Palin? are you saying that you knew what the entire platform was in which they stood? and if you did that you would be satisfied because you would have know that in no way they would have ever supported your agenda? Their are so many issues to tackle nothing can be done over night. and while it seems he's a little off track lets try to remember the shit he's gotta clean befor he refurnishes
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    Jun 18, 2009 9:28 PM GMT
    It is a sad state of affairs that in this push-button, instant-gratification, spoiled society, that anyone could expect to be able to fix 8 years (wait, make that 30, since the advent of Reaganomics) of Republican ruination of this country overnight.
    Corporate greed, narrow attitudes, endless (and illegal) war, degradation of our freedoms, weakening of our Constitution, approval of the use of torture, Carl Rove's disgusting lie-spinning and fear-mongering tactics, riches and loopholes only for the ultra-weathy, diminishing respect for the USA in the eyes of the world, degradation of the environment for the sake of big or quick bucks, weakening of the middle class....all products of years of Right-wing agenda...have dug us all a deep grave in many ways.
    Obama is doing his best. To me, he represents enlightenment and change from ways that just don't work any more, and his heart is in the right place I truly believe...but change on all accounts is not going to happen overnight. We're in pretty damned deep.
    However, with the insight and wisdom of upcoming generations, I have much hope. We MUST "change"...or face the consequences....and I really think the many of our youth are cognizant of that fact.
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    Jun 18, 2009 9:42 PM GMT
    Vote for someone who is progressive and tells us that he will change things or vote for someone archaically trenched in biblical conservatism whose reign would guarantee no advancement?

    No one should regret voting for Obama. Did you make this thread to chastise the American Left voter?

    The 2008 election for gays was like this:

    Imagine you have $1000 to invest for 4 years so you go to the bank and inquire about bonds, CDs, and high-interest rate savings accounts.

    Bank A says that they aren't sure when they will offer a high-interest rate CD but they are overly confident that in due time, they will offer something that will appeal to you.

    Bank B says that within the next 4 years they do not see any opportunity for your money to grow and that the $1000 you originally invested will be the same 4 years from now.

    What bank would you have chosen ?
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    Jun 18, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
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    Jun 18, 2009 9:46 PM GMT
    Pinny saidBank B says that within the next 4 years they do not see any opportunity for your money to grow and that the $1000 you originally invested will be the same 4 years from now.

    The same? As I remember the campaign, what we were likely to get with Bank B was even less in 4 years than when we started!
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    Jun 18, 2009 9:48 PM GMT
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    Jun 18, 2009 9:51 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidThe same? As I remember the campaign, what we were likely to get with Bank B was even less in 4 years than when we started!

    To each his own, nonetheless we can easily agree that investing ones money in Bank B is a far-from-wise choice.
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    Jun 18, 2009 9:58 PM GMT
    matey saidIt's now to late to complain about him, and he's not fulfilling your wants, quick enough.

    People did try to warn you, but even though you have hearing, you were deaf to their warnings. So now it's time to deal with your actions, or your vote.

    So Mr Obama is in no rush to give the homosexuals, and lesbians, full equality in Jesus land, the USA; surprise. He knows this will cost him the next election, if he was to do so. I'm sure he is more interested in being re- elected, than forfilling your want.

    Maybe if you had voted for the better of the USA, and not your own wants, you would not be so disappointed at this time.

    If you had of voted for Mr McCain, you would of knowing where you stood. In fact you knew where you stood before the election, But Was Mr Obama ever transparent on his agenda with homosexual, and lesbian issues, or the Advancement of homosexual, lesbian issues?

    Or did you assume, he would fulfil your want?


    LOL, I find it amusing how the right wing has the time to express their "concerns" about the left wing, all while ignoring that they had control over the EXECUTIVE & LEGISLATIVE branches (oh, and in case you are NOT American, seeing as you didn't answer Vespa when he asked you, I'll explain it, there are three branches, and when a party controls those two, typically they get to set the agenda for what HAPPENS in the states during that term, you douche), for what? The past six years I believe, and are the reason we are in this "mess".

    Ahh, it's your freedom of speech that allows you to speak so arrogantly in your "hand-me-the-reigns, WE-know-how-to-fix-this-mess, not-this-Obama-that-you-ignorant-liberals-elected-to-office" while I stare at you with my "I'm-gay, liberal, young-and-I-have-a-vote-and-I-used-it-haha, now-less-talking-more-sucking" face,

    Cheers matey! icon_cool.gif
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    Jun 18, 2009 10:23 PM GMT
    If you had of voted for Mr McCain, you would of knowing where you stood. In fact you knew where you stood before the election, But Was Mr Obama ever transparent on his agenda with homosexual, and lesbian issues, or the Advancement of homosexual, lesbian issues?

    You're kidding me, right? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 19, 2009 10:09 PM GMT
    BIGBLKBDYBLDR saidIt is a sad state of affairs that in this push-button, instant-gratification, spoiled society, that anyone could expect to be able to fix 8 years (wait, make that 30, since the advent of Reaganomics) of Republican ruination of this country overnight.
    Corporate greed, narrow attitudes, endless (and illegal) war, degradation of our freedoms, weakening of our Constitution, approval of the use of torture, Carl Rove's disgusting lie-spinning and fear-mongering tactics, riches and loopholes only for the ultra-weathy, diminishing respect for the USA in the eyes of the world, degradation of the environment for the sake of big or quick bucks, weakening of the middle class....all products of years of Right-wing agenda...have dug us all a deep grave in many ways.
    Obama is doing his best. To me, he represents enlightenment and change from ways that just don't work any more, and his heart is in the right place I truly believe...but change on all accounts is not going to happen overnight. We're in pretty damned deep.
    However, with the insight and wisdom of upcoming generations, I have much hope. We MUST "change"...or face the consequences....and I really think the many of our youth are cognizant of that fact.



    Well said BigBlk Dude, WELL said.
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    Jun 19, 2009 10:30 PM GMT
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    BIGBLKBDYBLDR saidIt is a sad state of affairs that in this push-button, instant-gratification, spoiled society, that anyone could expect to be able to fix 8 years (wait, make that 30, since the advent of Reaganomics) of Republican ruination of this country overnight.
    Corporate greed, narrow attitudes, endless (and illegal) war, degradation of our freedoms, weakening of our Constitution, approval of the use of torture, Carl Rove's disgusting lie-spinning and fear-mongering tactics, riches and loopholes only for the ultra-weathy, diminishing respect for the USA in the eyes of the world, degradation of the environment for the sake of big or quick bucks, weakening of the middle class....all products of years of Right-wing agenda...have dug us all a deep grave in many ways.
    Obama is doing his best. To me, he represents enlightenment and change from ways that just don't work any more, and his heart is in the right place I truly believe...but change on all accounts is not going to happen overnight. We're in pretty damned deep.
    However, with the insight and wisdom of upcoming generations, I have much hope. We MUST "change"...or face the consequences....and I really think the many of our youth are cognizant of that fact.



    Well said BigBlk Dude, WELL said.


    I am agreement here too...I just think it is hilarious that we finally get someone other than a white guy for president of the united states and all hell breaks looseicon_lol.gif
    I believe President Barack Obama is doing the best job possible for economy at this given time. I say hang in there, stay positive, be what u expect from others, stop demanding so much.icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 19, 2009 10:33 PM GMT
    It's now to late to complain about him, and he's not fulfilling your wants, quick enough. It is our given right as Americans who vote to call out the sitting president when we believe he has not fulfilled his own words.

    People did try to warn you, but even though you have hearing, you were deaf to their warnings. So now it's time to deal with your actions, or your vote. Um, our campaign and election process works for us, save one hiccup back in 2000, and each individual has the power to make up his or her mind and choose the candidate that best suits him or her.

    So Mr Obama is in no rush to give the homosexuals, and lesbians, full equality in Jesus land, the USA; surprise. He knows this will cost him the next election, if he was to do so. I'm sure he is more interested in being re- elected, than forfilling your want. First, Lesbians are homosexuals. He has a better chance at re-election by fixing what was broken and fufilling his campaign promises to the LGBT community while he has a majority in both sections of congress (and does anyone really think it is coincidence that one justice decides to retire now?) now than in a lame duck term with the possibility that he does not have the majority in both houses.

    Maybe if you had voted for the better of the USA, and not your own wants, you would not be so disappointed at this time. That doesn't even make sense considering who his opponent was.

    If you had of voted for Mr McCain, you would of knowing where you stood. In fact you knew where you stood before the election, But Was Mr Obama ever transparent on his agenda with homosexual, and lesbian issues, or the Advancement of homosexual, lesbian issues? Of course we knew where we stood with McCain. Why do you think he is not president? And it's not just the "You Betcha" governor.

    Or did you assume, he would fulfil your want? As a matter of fact, he is the best chance we had since the days of Kennedy. Why don't you just concentrate on seeing if you can get bigamy legalized down under and let us worry about marriage for us over here.
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    Jun 19, 2009 10:39 PM GMT
    You're saying that instead of voting for the truly progressive candidate who actually supports gay rights and who has already--in less than half a year--managed to come through on a few things for the gay community, I should have voted for the team that was and still is blatantly against gays and the "gay lifestyle," just because "I knew where they stood." I'm sorry, but are you f*ing serious??

    Not to mention how much deeper a sh*thole this country would be in were we to install yet another callous, inept, greedy, warmongering, poor-hating republican administration.

    Obama may not be a saint--but no one is--and he's doing a good job all around handling the mess that was created by the previous administration. I'm not religious, but if I were I would still thank God every night that Obama won last November. Thanks to Obama I am able to say for the first time in 8 years that I am proud to be an American.
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    Jun 19, 2009 10:42 PM GMT
    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

    What a bunch of whiners. Obama is working overtime trying to get the economy back on track, playing tricky diplomacy with the world, pushing through landmark healthcare reform, working to curb global warming....

    BUT, lets act like a 3 year old and have a hissy fit because you dont get what you want w/in 5 months of his administration? Come on. And McCain? At least we know where we would stand? Are you frickin kidding me?

  • styrgan

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    Jun 19, 2009 11:02 PM GMT
    1. How is knowing where I stand better when the alternative is even worse?

    2. I still do not regret voting for Obama. I think his heart is in the right place and that he is going to eventually do things for our community. I just think he's a terrible leader - another quality he would have shared with McCain which makes the alternative no better.
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    Jun 19, 2009 11:07 PM GMT
    Perhaps voicing your needs to entities higher than just Real Jock users will help bring these better benefits faster.

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    Jun 19, 2009 11:14 PM GMT
    smitty78 said

    What a bunch of whiners. Obama is working overtime trying to get the economy back on track, playing tricky diplomacy with the world, pushing through landmark healthcare reform, working to curb global warming....

    BUT, lets act like a 3 year old and have a hissy fit because you dont get what you want w/in 5 months of his administration? Come on. And McCain? At least we know where we would stand? Are you frickin kidding me?



    I mostly agree with your post. But let's face facts. Granting gays partnership rights is controversial. Typically, a president wants to accomplish all the unpopular things in his first year in office so he doesn't have to worry about them being hurled at him during a vicious campaign. So there is a timetable by which we should have seen some progress.

    Instead of progress, however, we have actually seen gays insulted with hateful language in a brief that defends a policy the administration claims to be against. Our unions were compared to incest. That is not acceptable from a Democratic administration.