Sweating out toxins

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    Nov 19, 2007 3:47 AM GMT
    Does anyone know if sweating really removes "toxins" from the body? And if so, what kind of toxins?

    Do you know any reputable links on the subject?
  • dfrourke

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    Nov 19, 2007 4:36 AM GMT
    I don't know about sweating out toxins, but I know running or doing cardio for about 20 minutes or so the day after drinking [or other things] provides your body a decent "endorphin dump" to help with your mood...

    - David
  • Alan95823

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    Nov 19, 2007 4:46 AM GMT
    According to this website, nope.

    [url]http://indiadiets.com/myths/Myth%20details/sweating_rids_toxins.htm[/url]

    They say: "Sweating does eliminate some of the toxins, but you'd die if your body didn't have better ways of cleaning house. Physiologists point out that sweat is about 99% water. The rest is salt, fat molecules, vitamin C, lactic acid (a waste product of muscles), uric acid and ammonia. Any drug you're taking can also turn up in your perspiration. Because the body stores tiny amount of environmental toxins in fatty tissue, it's possible that traces of these substances exit with your sweat as well.

    But, the body's main detoxifiers are the kidneys and the liver. The former sends waste products out of the body through urine, while the liver breaks down alcohol, pesticides and other chemicals and shunts them out via the intestines.

    So if you want to keep your system clean, skip the sauna and the steam bath in favour of caring for your liver."
  • GeorgeNJ

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    Nov 19, 2007 4:48 AM GMT
    Hey Caslon. I think this is one of those questions that has no commonly accepted answer -- some say it's a myth, others say it is a valid concept. At my health club, a couple of M.D.s say that certain metallic substances are released thru sweat, but in very small amounts. Wish I could give you some links, but I don't have any. I checked WebMD, PubMed, MedicineNet, and PDR Health -- which I often check in on. But I didn't find anything there. George
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    Nov 19, 2007 4:52 AM GMT
    Thanks guys. My research online has only turned up the same. Maybe some metals are sweated out, but as a cleansing technique is doesnt work.
  • Alan95823

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    Nov 19, 2007 4:54 AM GMT
    Still though, drinking lots of water should help you pee a lot of stuff out.
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    Nov 19, 2007 5:35 AM GMT
    Yes, Sweating out toxins works. Some of the gunk that builds up in your lymph system can be sweated out. I have a detox bath a few times a week.
    The best way I've found to do it is after a Home workout when I'm all sweaty, I draw a really hot bath, as hot as I can stand it. Then I add copious amounts of epsoms salt to the water. I get a big glass of ice water and sit in the hot water. Guzzle the ice water and stretch as many muscles as I can in the tub which is just about all of them. After stretching, I sit and sweat. The stretches wring out the toxins like lactic acid, the hot water opens the pores, the epsoms salt draws stuff out of the pores and the ice water flushes the system.
    To get rid of heavy metal toxins, I take zinc and have a coffee enema once a week. Coffee enemas open the gall bladder and allows it to empty it's toxic contents into the bowel where it is flushed out with subsequent saline enemas. It's kind of messy but well worth it.
    I suffer from gout and gout is just crystalized protiens that form and collect in the joints of the great toes forcing them apart. It is very painful. Since I've been taking the coffee enemas and detox baths, I haven't had a problem with it.
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    Nov 19, 2007 6:30 AM GMT
    ^Interesting or entertaininh depending on your view. John what you describe is anecdotal, at best, and nothing more until you can provide scientific data proving such.

    Really not sure where to start as ther is so much you state as fact that has no evidence. But suffice it to say the gallbladder is not toxic. It stores, concentrates and releases bile-salts, produced by the liver, that aid in the digestion of fat -- that's putting it simply. Yes, it can cause problems, but not from what it contains being toxic. And yes, gout is the precipitation of proteins, but what that has to do with coffee enemas, the gallbladder or detox baths needs further explanation becuase it is not readily apparent scientifically or otherwise.

    Caslon: While many divide things into conventional and alterantive treatments, I'm not sure that is necessarily correct. The best you can do is find sound scientific evidence supporting said treatment, and there are many 'alternative' treatments that are being studied that show evidence of providing benefit. What works, works, and will stand up to study whether it is conventional or alternative, and such a divide really, when based on evidence, is in mostly one we make in our minds.
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    Nov 19, 2007 7:33 AM GMT
    I got tested at my local heath spa for heavy metals with a blood and urine tests. It turned up high level of cadmium, something that is quite common from growing up on a farm in ye olde days. Apparently the sheep and cattle dips are full of nasty organic chemicals full of the stuff icon_eek.gif

    So the trick was to take this ch77 supplement and hit the infra-red saunas on a regular basis. The theory being that the ch77 stuff binds with the metals and makes them water soluble so you can sweat it out. As the ir sauna is dry, you sit there and wipe the sweat off with (lots) of towels to prevent re-absorption.

    I need to go back and have the tests again to see if its made a difference. Apparently your body is smart enough to stash the toxins safely away in the fat. This leads to fat reserves that you body will not go near probably unless your really starving.

    Thats what I was told any ways...

    Scott.
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    Nov 19, 2007 9:27 AM GMT
    Isn't this one of the reasons your body will develope a fever when some kind of toxin or virus enters the body? I think sweating is a great way to get rid of toxins.
  • RSportsguy

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    Nov 19, 2007 10:23 AM GMT
    There is an infomercial on cable now that is trying to sell these pads that you place on the soles of your feet at night that are suppose to catch all the toxins in your body. They give you like a 2 week supply and the pads are suppose to get lighter by the day. In the commercial, the pad is almost black the first day, showing you how much toxins are in your body. I don't think they ever give any scientific backings about them though.
  • MSUBioNerd

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    Nov 19, 2007 1:01 PM GMT
    Fever is rare as a response to a non-living toxin; it is typically a response to a virus or a bacterial infection. Higher temperatures speed up the proliferation of white blood cells, increase the rate of certain chemical reactions important in the mammalian immunological defense, and can kill certain pathogenic microbes with strict temperature ranges. This argues against its use as a general detoxification strategy, but more that it is a response to specifically biological threats.

    A good sweat feels good, but the science behind it as anything cleansing is weak to non-existent. That being said, while I know nothing about this ch77 supplement, it could at least plausibly help in removing heavy metals from the blood, as it's possible that it's a chelator and can thus make heavy metal ions more soluble than they would be otherwise. However, there are many, many biomolecules which act naturally as chelators, including most sugars, proteins, and nucleic acids. Most of the standard chelators specifically deal with individual ions--the heme group chelates Fe2+, for example--and the ones which are broad spectrum like EDTA themselves have the potential of being highly toxic.
  • DiverScience

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    Nov 19, 2007 1:51 PM GMT
    Depends what you mean by "toxins" I guess.

    Anecdotally, a really hot shower or bath at the *end* of sickness makes me feel better pretty reliably. I think of it as sweating out the dead bugs from my system, but it's unlikely that actual bacteria are travelling through my skin.

    As for other toxins, biologically those are dealt with by other organs (kidneys, liver) and then excreted mostly in the urine.

    So, anecdotally, it makes me feel better. Scientifically, I've seen no good evidence for that feeling better actually having anything to do with sweating out toxins.
  • DiverScience

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    Nov 19, 2007 2:00 PM GMT
    John:

    That is not what gout is. At all. For the most part, proteins don't crystallize (not with less than 30% water and certainly not stably or my my job would be much easier).

    Gout is a build up of uric acid, which then crystallizes in the joints. The crystals cause inflammation and irritation physically by rubbing and cutting the tissue in which they form.

    The association with protein is because most high protein sources cause an increase in urate levels in the blood, which then crash out of solution to form uric acid crystals. It's also aggravated by red wine for the same reason, and lentils because lentils have both protein and urate. (this is why gout has also been considered a disease of the morally corrupt, because it used to be a rich man's disease, the only ones who could afford enough protein and wine to activate it).

    Most commonly treatment is primarily dietary. Decrease in protein spikes, removal of red wines, lentils, etc. Increased excercise and stretching can also help clear the uric acid from the joints to be resorbed and then flushed from the system.
  • DiverScience

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    Nov 19, 2007 2:13 PM GMT
    Also John:

    Your gall bladder... it's contents are what allows you to digest your food. Bile is what emulsifies fat in your diet so that your duodenum can digest it.

    There's no reason to empty your gall bladder, unless it's full of gall stones, or you have cholestasis. If you have cholestasis, you'll likely end up with jaundice. If your gall bladder is full of gall stones you *can't* empty it, as the exit tube is too small and there's a high chance that any stones will stick, obstruct the cystic duct, and *kill* you unless you have the whole thing removed.

    Most of the at-home remedies for your gall bladder (lemon juice and olive oil) basically create large emulsified blobs of fat (more or less... soap) which look like big gall stones, but aren't.

    Coffee enemas... all they do is deliver a high dosage of coffee to your system quickly (absorbed through your mucous membranes with no regulation). Colonics (enemas) do not reach nearly far enough to have an effect on your gall bladder. At best, they clear out your lower colon.
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    Nov 19, 2007 2:19 PM GMT
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    Nov 20, 2007 3:26 AM GMT
    I have asked my personal trainer for sources that support the idea that sweating eliminates toxins. I told him that I have goodled it, but didnt find anything. We'll see.

    I can say that the sauna has cleaned out some my pores. In my bathroom mirror, I could see that there was some sebaceous build-up in the pores near the nose. It wasnt a problem...no infections or noticeable stuffed up pores. But after the sauna, those pores are all cleaned out. I figure the heat and sweat liquified the sebaceous gunk and it came out in the shower.

    But that's not what I would consider eliminating toxins by sweating.
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    Nov 23, 2007 5:54 PM GMT
    depend on what you consider toxin is. if our urine is derive is from fluid that circulate our body, the sweat is just fluid closer to upperdermal level. Hence any toxin that's cumulated at that area will be eliminated faster that way.
    Not sure what toxin would accumulated closer to skin surface, but if to consider the skin is the biggest "organ" of your body. then to refreshing the fluid of that organ would be a good idea.