Odd Dreams

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    Nov 19, 2007 8:32 AM GMT
    This post may come as a shock to some readers...

    I don't have any other forum or community to ask such a question of, so I am posting it here...

    I have, for years, had very strong, very bloody dreams. Most nights the dreams I can remember deal with me murdering or otherwise hurting people. A dream a night ago was of me shoving two large blades into someone's gut and watching them bleed to death.

    These disturb me greatly because I've never been a violent person. I do have a sharp and quick temper, but I have never raised a hand to anyone in my life.

    A few of my friends have suggested that I speak to a psychologist to figure out why I'm dreaming such visceral dreams, but I am hesitant because I wonder if the origin of the dreams is the sole reason I have them, eg, I am afraid to have them, so I do.

    What say you?
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    Nov 19, 2007 4:24 PM GMT
    depends,
    how long ago they had started?
    at what age?
    how frequent those dreams are?

    well, good psychoanalyst could help to determine where the roots of those dreams are. Childhood or elsewhere.

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    Nov 19, 2007 5:38 PM GMT
    That's what I'm not sure about. About as long as I can remember specifically trying to remember dreams, so I'd say the last 10 years or so.

    The dreams are every night save for a rare one or two. Even this morning, though I can't remember it now, it was pretty gruesome. Some are more memorable, like the one where I threw someone down a staircase and they exploded into a big ball of blood. Now that was disgusting!

    I do like horror movies and I love video games. Many of my games feature similar themes, like The Witcher, Doom I, II, and III, Warcraft series, and so on, but none are near the depravity of those dreams.
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    Nov 19, 2007 6:20 PM GMT
    Well, in my opinion it's hard to stand it for so long.
    But if you can - so you can consult nearest psychospecialist.
    Be sure, when you tell your story - you'll feel better.
  • MikeyN85

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    Nov 19, 2007 6:27 PM GMT
    If you tend not be a violent person, according to one model on dreams it could be telling you that in your life you need to be more aggressive, less of a pushover perhaps? In freud it could be something that you locked away from your child hood, suppressed in the unconcoius. OR another way of looking at it is that both people in your dream is actually yourself. Look at it that way. Have you had a deep internal conflict going on? i.e. image, coming out, a relationship.
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    Nov 19, 2007 6:40 PM GMT
    I don't enjoy it, no. I wake up many times every night rather frightened, though only one dream ever made me scream.

    As for MikeyN85, I came out when I was 16 and it was easy. Everyone knows. And I'm in a relationship, yes, but I would call it very loving.

    I did grow up with an abusive uncle, though, but I'm hesitant to start blaming anything wrong on my childhood. I think my biggest fear is mentally that I might be...I don't know...evil?

    It does scare me. If I had a psychologist to talk to, I would have. I lived for many years in state care and got used to them.
  • Kevin82

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    Nov 19, 2007 7:00 PM GMT
    Your dreams are a reflection of yourself, where you've been where you are and where you're going. Try some positive affirmations and stop playing bloody video games. Maybe you get off on it during the day because you have control and it scares you in your dreams because it feels like something that is happening to you.
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    Nov 19, 2007 7:45 PM GMT
    Talk to someone professional.

    R
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    Nov 19, 2007 7:49 PM GMT
    Thanks for all of the advice, guys. It really does help!

  • Nov 19, 2007 8:16 PM GMT
    Speaking with the mind is a bit complicated, I would say get some help one way or another.
    It's really interesting when people say they are physic, because studies show that in all history, there has been no official real physic. Every test has been proven false and that includes the ones used by Police. I saw a documentary about how the mind works and truthfully the physics are compared to have a mental disorder, basically they are in a why crazy as society would see it.
    Now about your interesting dreams, I would not say they are due to video games or horror movies. Don't think about doing harm in your sleep as well, never in history has any sleepwalker inflicted pain on another person. You can make your other happy by saying that, plus if you ever did and tests show your sleepwalking killed another person, you wouldn't actually be blamed because you wouldn't have been in control. My ex made me feel really happy by schooling me on that subject.
    Also ask yourself, does it truly bother you, or are you just scared that you might become that person. What if your mind just wants more of a thrill in life, and no I am not saying go hack some body parts off of somebody. Is your life repetitious at the moment? Give me some of the activities as well as hobbies you do. I took a bit of Psychology classes, no I can't cure you but I can at least try, and if I don't know shit trust me I won't try to act like I know what I am speaking of.

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    Oh yeah I am pretty sure I spelled alot wrong looking back at it, good thing i hate grammar.icon_biggrin.gif
  • SpartanJock

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    Nov 19, 2007 8:53 PM GMT
    A professional would be able to help you work on those dreams. For Freud, it would have been easy to interpret...it's purely...wait for it...wait...sexual. But that's Freud. icon_biggrin.gif

    To me, it sounds like there is some sort of conflict that that has the need to be externalized and dealt with.

    I'm a molecular biologist, so it's most inevitably some viral infection.
  • EricLA

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    Nov 20, 2007 2:00 AM GMT
    I would go talk to a therapist just to give yourself peace of mind. Given your conscious reaction to the dreams, I wouldn't be too worried. Despite your quick temper, you seem repulsed and frightened by the dreams. So, as long as your consciousness stays in control, you should be fine. If you start sleepwalking, then I'd worry.

    I don't think I saw in your post if you're doing harm in your dreams to people you know and if so if you harbor any anger towards them in real life. If they are people you don't know, I'd say there's less reason to be concerned.

    But, I still say it's worth exploring what's going on with a therapist. If these dreams cause you to wake up in the middle of the night then I'm sure they're affecting the amount of rest you're getting which probably has an affect on you.
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    Nov 20, 2007 3:38 AM GMT
    Tons of books about dream work are available. Simply stated: place a pen and pencil next to your bed and before you go to bed give yourself the auto suggestion that you will remember your dreams and wake up in order to write in down. Dreams can be so literal that they are punny funny. I gave myself auto suggestion once trying to determine if the regimen i was going thru was helping my condition. I did this several times and one night I had this strange dream of a car that ran on tracks rather than roads. One of the tracks was so beautiful made out of redwood burl the other was plain concrete. I couldn't figure what the dream was trying to tell me....i thought and thought about that beautiful carved redwood track and that of the two tracks the left one was plain it was the right track that was special....Duh.. Get it The dream was telling me about about the beauty of being on the "Right Track' ,,,,I I've got a ton similar puny symbolic messages.

    No worries about the violent nature of your dreams....but start to study them now. You subconscious is trying to get your attention... that's why they are disturbing,, There is some issue that you have been ignoring and it pretty important and needs your attention.
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    Nov 20, 2007 3:43 AM GMT
    My background is in psychoanalytical (or "depth") psychology and I conduct dream groups frequently.

    There is no singular accurate interpretation of dreams (as Mikey pointed out). One thing that does seem to be true is that the dream ego will often select images from immediate experience even though the underlying conflict may not be directly related to the images. Thus, for example, violent images from video games can be enlisted to express something completely unrelated to the games themselves.

    The dreams you are having are typical of people with post traumatic stress disorder -- so called traumatic dreams, which tend to repeat themselves.

    You said you had an abusive uncle and were raised in state care for many years. You quickly said, too, that you hesitate to "blame anything" on your childhood.

    If there was violence or sexual abuse or sustained neglect, it would be usual for the psyche to produce the kinds of dreams you're having. So, while you might not want to turn your attention to the past, you might need to if you want to resolve the underlying conflict and exorcise the dreams.

    There's no reason to think your dreams indicate that you are evil or likely to be overtaken by violent impulses. Any dream's function in part is to reduce the anxiety of the underlying conflict. The dream kills so that you won't.

    If you decide to see someone to talk about the dreams, be sure you find out first if the person has any background in the subject. It's trendy now to regard dreams as little more than random pictures that haunt our sleep. Your best bet for dreamwork would be a Jungian or post-Jungian analyst.

    Here is a list of Jungian analysts in Chicago:

    http://www.jungchicago.org/CSJA.htm
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    Nov 20, 2007 4:49 AM GMT
    Well I guess I'd always worried about those dreams.

    It's easy to say I will talk to someone; hard in practice.

    No, to those who asked, I've never dreamed about harming anyone I care about, nor have I ever sleep walked. The biggest issue about these dreams are they wake me up frequently throughout the night and leave me breathless. Unless my Josh is sleeping next to me it is very, very difficult to go back to sleep.

    Thanks obscenewish - that's great advice and really makes me feel a lot better: "the dreams kill so you won't". I never thought of it that way icon_smile.gif

    Thanks all...I think we've exhausted this topic!
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    Nov 20, 2007 10:09 PM GMT
    I support obscenewish's observations. My mom used to have dreams in which she was murdering her mother-in-law. This was a way of safely venting negative emotions she had towards my Dad's mother (she was an overprotective Mother who did not think my Mom was good enough for her only child and "baby").

    My older sister used to sleep walk. Once she played a game of "Clue" with me and my other sister while sleep walking. To add insult to injury she won! She has always had challenging emotional issues.

    There is a song titled "Mad World" by Tears For Fears that was recently re-made by Gary Jules. A lyric in the song states "I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad the dreams in which I am dying are the best I ever had". It is making the same point, nightmares although painful are actually for mental health purposes very useful.
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    Nov 21, 2007 12:53 PM GMT
    I have had recurring dreams of being smothered, drowning, or being burried alive for years. I found out about three weeks ago from a specialist at the sleep medicine clinic that I have sleep apnea. Coincidence? NO!
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    Nov 21, 2007 12:54 PM GMT
    I also had a shitty childhood and I get the murder dreams too.
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    Nov 21, 2007 5:29 PM GMT
    Regardless of why I'm having such dreams, I'd prefer not to. They disturb me and prevent me from having a good night's sleep. I'm frequently tired and sore because no matter how early I go to bed, I don't get complete rest unless I sleep for 15 hours or so.