The Catholic Church ordaining a married man! Whoda thought???

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    Jun 20, 2009 1:25 AM GMT
    "A married man will be ordained to the Catholic priesthood in August for the first time ever on Prince Edward Island.

    The precedent-setting case follows a process that took close to four years before the Vatican gave Bishop Vernon Fougere permission to ordain Martin Carter, a former Anglican clergyman.

    “In the Catholic Church, we do not ordain married men,’’ said Fougere, the long-serving bishop of Charlottetown.

    “So he (Carter) had to petition the Holy Father — the Pope — for permission to be ordained to the Catholic priesthood. Now these are exceptional cases and they are not done overnight.’’

    Fougere, who could have denied Carter the ordination to the Catholic priesthood, says he was pleased to grant permission.

    “I have discerned that he is very sincere and his conversion to the Catholic Church has been a long process,’’ he said.

    “I have received very favourable correspondence from his bishop in Halifax. There is no doubt in my mind this is a matter of conscience.’’

    Carter, who is married and has three sons, will be ordained at St. Dunstan’s Basilica Church in Charlottetown on Aug. 9. He will begin his assignment Aug. 15 with St. Pius X Parish."

    http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/index.cfm?sid=262400&sc=98

    ...and he gets to keep fucking ... hmmmm
  • everhorn

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    Jun 20, 2009 1:27 AM GMT
    There are many married men who are priests in the Roman Catholic Church -- all converts from some other Christian religion, such as Anglicanism and Lutheranism. It has been going on for at least 20 years. . . .
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    Jun 20, 2009 1:32 AM GMT
    I guess if they cant get any priests from Catholics who arent pedophiles, then they have to get them from other religions. ... icon_eek.gif
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    Jun 20, 2009 5:22 AM GMT
    There have been Popes in the past that have had a wife or two, as well. Pluse Popes who have also been breeders.
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    Jun 20, 2009 5:34 AM GMT
    I believe there are currently two priests in the United States who are married and are Catholic priests, they, like mentioned, were converts from Anglicanism.
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    Jun 20, 2009 5:36 AM GMT
    Well - considering the church is 2000 yrs old, and the celebacy rule was brought in approx 450 yrs ago.... its a relatively new bullshit rule icon_smile.gif There have probably been lots of married men with children in the past!
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    Jun 20, 2009 6:05 AM GMT
    Yes and the reasion the catholic church stopped it's Popes and priests from marriage, was to stop them from having a claim to church property. Thus any child born to a Pope or priest is deemed a bastard, and they are excluded from the right of inheritance.
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    Jun 20, 2009 6:13 AM GMT
    I have no idea why the Roman Catholics still have a rule of not ordaining married men if the Eastern Catholic Churches in communion with Rome, like the Ruthenians and Melkites, have never stopped ordaining married men to the priesthood. The priest at my parish is a married dude. If those Catholics can, why can't they?
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    Jun 20, 2009 6:40 AM GMT
    makoj59 saidI have no idea why the Roman Catholics still have a rule of not ordaining married men if the Eastern Catholic Churches in communion with Rome, like the Ruthenians and Melkites, have never stopped ordaining married men to the priesthood. The priest at my parish is a married dude. If those Catholics can, why can't they?
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    that's because they're in communion, but only under the direct rule of the pope. other wise the eastern catholic church follows the same traditions of the eastern orthodox church, i.e. priests can be married before being ordained, but bishops and above cannot.
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    Oct 27, 2009 6:28 AM GMT
    *threadbump and new update: The Catholic Church has begun a concerted effort to convert disillusioned Anglicans (even including Married Priests, who would be allowed to retain their marriage and ordination) who are disappointed with their Church's stance on gays and female priests.

    link:
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/10/20/vatican.anglican.church/index.html
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    Oct 27, 2009 6:31 AM GMT
    this is why i'm happy i was raised orthodox, our priests can be married
  • trl_

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    Oct 27, 2009 6:40 AM GMT
    jackofhearts46 saidthis is why i'm happy i was raised orthodox, our priests can be married


    All Eastern/Byzantine Catholic priests have been able to be married for hundreds of years, and all priests, regardless of rite were able to be married for hundreds of years before the Great Schism as well.

    The media is spinning this to confuse non-Catholics into thinking this is deviating from some long standing tradition.

    Many priests that are ordained that have converted from other Christian and non-Christian faiths aren't forced to annul.

    Anglican bishops and priests that have recently chosen to come into Catholicism will probably also not be asked to annul their marriages.

    A married Catholic priest is nothing new at all. icon_confused.gif
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    Oct 27, 2009 7:17 AM GMT
    This has been going on for about 30 years, if a protestant Priest who has a wife converts to Catholicism, they can hold the Catholic Priesthood, and keep their wife too.
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    Oct 27, 2009 3:18 PM GMT
    Caslon12000 said"A married man will be ordained to the Catholic priesthood in August for the first time ever on Prince Edward Island.

    The precedent-setting case follows a process that took close to four years before the Vatican gave Bishop Vernon Fougere permission to ordain Martin Carter, a former Anglican clergyman.

    “In the Catholic Church, we do not ordain married men,’’ said Fougere, the long-serving bishop of Charlottetown.

    “So he (Carter) had to petition the Holy Father — the Pope — for permission to be ordained to the Catholic priesthood. Now these are exceptional cases and they are not done overnight.’’

    Fougere, who could have denied Carter the ordination to the Catholic priesthood, says he was pleased to grant permission.

    “I have discerned that he is very sincere and his conversion to the Catholic Church has been a long process,’’ he said.

    “I have received very favourable correspondence from his bishop in Halifax. There is no doubt in my mind this is a matter of conscience.’’

    Carter, who is married and has three sons, will be ordained at St. Dunstan’s Basilica Church in Charlottetown on Aug. 9. He will begin his assignment Aug. 15 with St. Pius X Parish."

    http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/index.cfm?sid=262400&sc=98

    The Catholic Church is gettting very short on priests, so they will probably be allowing marriage. Even Peter , whom they claim was the first pope was a married man.


    ..and he gets to keep fucking ... hmmmm
  • GQjock

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    Oct 29, 2009 11:08 AM GMT
    You see ...

    They'll forgo the tired old rhetoric and the lame old doctrine
    if it gets them more haters and bigots

    But god forbid (sic) icon_wink.gif
    If a nun helps out in an AIDS clinic or ministers to unmarried mothers
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    Oct 29, 2009 12:30 PM GMT
    I was going to say Its not been anything new. They a converts so thats pretty much why they can do this. The priest that baptized me just over 4yrs ago was a convert if I am not mistake and a former San Antonio Police Officer. Kind of crazy considering at the time my and kindof even still now... I have thoughts of going in to Law Enforcement... particularly homeland security.