Fable said Also to even suggest that even if Greece didn't have such strict safeguards that prodigious artefacts such as the Marbles could be "looted" is ludicrous
Actually that's exactly what Lord Elgin witnessed. He visited the Acropolis a number of times, and on each occasion he discovered more of the friezes had disappeared. That's when he took action. In fact, he always regretted that his failure to act sooner resulted in the loss of what had been considered some of the most precious, which have never reappeared.
And in modern times, who can say what might happen? The Nazis looted all of Europe, and many of those treasures are still missing, or remain in disputed ownership. This is not a matter involving the Greeks alone, but conceivably of forces outside their control. That region of the world is realtively stable today, especially with Greece as a NATO member. But in 100 years, who knows?
Well in 100 years, who knows about anything. Duh.
The marbles were taken how long ago? Hmmmmm.
To be honest, I'm happy as much as the next person that Lord Elgin took the marbles, as you say looting etc. However, we're not talking about the past, or the far future, we're mainly discussing the now.
well, there is a high profit to be made in trading antiquities. that aside when elgin visited the acropolis the ottomans had already been using it for an ammunition storage, so he may have saved them from a malevolent regime, but that was 200 years ago. now there are armed guards in the subways protecting the digs that are going on all throughout athens.
the only reason that i supported the BM in not returning the marbles was because there was no place that was right for their preservation in greece. that has since changed. it's time for the british to return the marbles to their rightful home. since the greek government is taking the proper steps to protect all ancient sites and artifacts it's time for the return.
it's true elgin had the approval of the ottoman sultan, but no greek will find that legitimate, and with 400 years of occupation by a foreign culture that has no respect for the history, religion, and culture of the natives it's an understandable issue.
and we see claims from china and egypt to return artifacts that were 'stolen' and 'looted' from their countries. you're completely right, it's not a matter of past or future, it's a matter of now. and the marbles should be returned now.