Dreams about dreams

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    Jun 20, 2009 11:33 PM GMT
    Everybody dreams. Not everybody remembers dreams, but we all dream.

    So.

    1. Have you ever shared a dream with someone else? How often does this happen?
    2. How often do you have lucid dreams – dreams in which you know you are dreaming?
    3. What difference does this awareness make?
    (4. In dreams where I realize that I am dreaming, indescribable beings appear and communicate to me only in thoughts; even in the dream I understand that the knowledge they are giving me is not meant to be remembered by the Siya who inhabits the 3-dimensional world we live in when we're awake awake. It feels like knowledge just at the edge of my awareness. Is this sort of experience normal?)
    5. How often do you cross the boundary between dreaming and out-of-body travel? Is there a such boundary? Or are you completely skeptical about OBE claims?

    Sweet answers?

    Sweet dreams.

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    Jun 20, 2009 11:38 PM GMT
    Hmm..thats happened to me before. I don't remember what I was dreaming about, but when I realized I was conscious in my dream. I was able to do some pretty cool things,but most of the time when that happens to me I end up waking up after being aware.
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    Jun 20, 2009 11:56 PM GMT
    #5) I remembered out-of-body travel experience but I was very scary. I was afraid to sleep because I could feel I was in heaven
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    Jun 21, 2009 1:58 AM GMT
    1. Have you ever shared a dream with someone else? How often does this happen?

    I don't usually share my dreams though I will try to write them down if they are completely bizarre.

    2. How often do you have lucid dreams – dreams in which you know you are dreaming?

    Usually I know I am dreaming. I don't try to act on it like I used to when I found what limitations I had. For example: I could never properly fly though I could run in the sky instead and only be able to take flight if there were some type of hill that I could run up. I also had a lot of trouble moving through objects. When I did it felt like moving through a heavy liquid.

    3. What difference does this awareness make?

    You can make choices.

    (4. In dreams where I realize that I am dreaming, indescribable beings appear and communicate to me only in thoughts; even in the dream I understand that the knowledge they are giving me is not meant to be remembered by the Siya who inhabits the 3-dimensional world we live in when we're awake awake. It feels like knowledge just at the edge of my awareness. Is this sort of experience normal?)

    Very few times in the middle of my dreams somebody will run up to me out of nowhere and say something like "This is very important. You must remember what I tell you" Then I can't understand anything that is said or forget as soon as he says it but at the end the guy (it's always a guy) says "Don't forget. It's important you don't forget" then he runs off.

    5. How often do you cross the boundary between dreaming and out-of-body travel? Is there a such boundary? Or are you completely skeptical about OBE claims?

    Not skeptical just don't think I have ever had one.
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    Jun 21, 2009 3:10 AM GMT
    I share my dreams on occation, the other night i had a dream where an unknown gentleman gave me a book. I remember the title very clearly,so now i'm trying to figure out what it means..
    But i do like the dreams where i know i'm dreaming and somehow spread wings and fly........
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    Jun 21, 2009 3:24 AM GMT
    A client of mine went to this place for a week of out-of-body experiences:

    http://www.monroeinstitute.org/

    She was quite overweight and a sexual abuse survivor. I thought she needed to learn how to be "in" her body more than leave it, which seemed to me another way to avoid her emotional pain.

    Regarding lucid dreaming: I think it's an interesting phenomenon but, by directing the action, the dream ego becomes complicit in the ego's usual effort to avoid repressed, unconscious material.

    I can see the pleasure in it, but it definitely inhibits pursuing what Freud called "the royal road to the unconscious."
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    Jun 21, 2009 8:08 AM GMT
    the_others said

    1. Have you ever shared a dream with someone else? How often does this happen?
    2. How often do you have lucid dreams – dreams in which you know you are dreaming?
    3. What difference does this awareness make?
    (4. In dreams where I realize that I am dreaming, indescribable beings appear and communicate to me only in thoughts; even in the dream I understand that the knowledge they are giving me is not meant to be remembered by the Siya who inhabits the 3-dimensional world we live in when we're awake awake. It feels like knowledge just at the edge of my awareness. Is this sort of experience normal?)
    5. How often do you cross the boundary between dreaming and out-of-body travel? Is there a such boundary? Or are you completely skeptical about OBE claims?



    1. Nope

    2. Only a few times. And they're not really dreams - more like nightmares. Mentioned more in detail in the sleep paralysis threads: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/212637/

    3. Fucking scary and I try to wake myself up immediately.

    4. I don't think so. LOL. That reminds me of a new age book I read once about a being from space contacting people through an ouija board. Seems like it's more a case of wishful thinking... or wishful dreaming. The people who believe in this seem to be mostly those who are unhappy or unfulfilled in real life (like OW's client) and thus the dreams of finding the 'answers'.

    That said, dreams aren't 'recorded' by our memory centers unless we make the conscious effort to do so immediately after waking (like I do when I dreamt of something really nice).

    There are times though, when they do get recorded. More often unconsciously. And they often become the bases for 'false memories' and instances of 'deja vu' especially for older people.

    It's really just the case of neurons firing off electrical nerve signals (whether it's random or the result of certain neural activities/housekeeping is still to be discovered), following the most used paths and patterns since the more often we some parts of our brain the stronger the connections between them are. Because even a single thought is achieved only by the activation of millions of neurons at the same time in a specific area and pattern of the brain. They form networks so to speak making you dream more about things you know, want, experiences, etc. Valuable in exploring suppressed stuff, but not really magical, nor mystical, nor prophetic. So yes, it's normal that you forget your almost all of your dreams. Even if you do try to recall all your dreams (like in a dream journal for instance), the memory is flawed. You can't exactly capture the happenings for example and just remember the emotions involved (which are often strong, far stronger than they would have been logically). What seemed like a deep experience in dreams would more often than not look silly on waking up.

    Like for example, I had a dream once of driving through the countryside and feeling very happy and contented and like I had finally found the answers to life. Waking up you realize that was just simply absurd. Why would cornfields make me that happy? And there were a few instances where I woke up sad or happy because of a dream that I can't even remember. That could explain your 'indescribable beings'. You remember the emotion of feeling awed and enlightened, even if the actual content (which you have forgotten) was actually quite mundane.

    5. Skeptical. Very.