3rd world countries....

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    Jun 21, 2009 12:09 PM GMT
    Been on this site a while now...its great but some times I am shocked with the questions asked....
    I am from South Africa... A 3rd world country as you might know. Now my problem is this ( and im sure other guys have seen the same thing). I ve been asked the following

    - Why arent you black?
    - Do you know what shoes are
    - Do you have a lion as a pet (wtf!)
    - Do the elephants come onto the high ways?
    - Have you heard of world warr 2 (double WTF!)
    - How come you can speak english?
    - I have a cousin in the Kongo do you know him? (yes Arfica has a population of 2, Me and your cousin...)
    -And my all time favourite..... Do you have internet????????

    I am not saying all the guys do this, in fact very little...but guys please think before you ask these qeustions!!!

    South african greeting.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jun 21, 2009 12:23 PM GMT
    Well your going to have to be a little patient. Many here may be clueless as to even the location of SA (I'm surprised you didn't get that in your questions). Certainly nothing about this history of the country, the aparteid policies and politics......

    I've always found your country truly intriguing. I would challenge you to do
    a forum about a certain topic that may seem simplistic. "SA Common Animals" or "The progress of race relations in a changing country".

    Your efforts and insights would educate all of us. Thanks.

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    Jun 21, 2009 1:04 PM GMT
    Ruggas said
    - Why arent you black?
    - Do you know what shoes are
    - Do you have a lion as a pet (wtf!)
    - Do the elephants come onto the high ways?
    - Have you heard of world warr 2 (double WTF!)
    - How come you can speak english?
    - I have a cousin in the Kongo do you know him? (yes Arfica has a population of 2, Me and your cousin...)
    -And my all time favourite..... Do you have internet????????


    My experience of RJs’ questions about South Africa has not been that extreme; in fact, many ask relevant, clued-up questions.

    But I will be facetious and answer these questions for the fun of it.

    1) I’m not black because black went out of fashion in Africa. White has become the new black. So I applied for an alteration, you see.
    2) Shoes? What is this shoes you speak of? What does it do? I’ve never heard of this shoes.
    3) No, but I did have one for dinner the other night. Tastes like chicken. Yum.
    4) Don’t you get elephants on your highways? I thought this happened all the time. What causes traffic jams in your countries if not stampedes of wild animals?
    5) Have you heard of Hutus and Tutsis, our neighbors? Have you heard of xenophobia? Have you heard of the things happening on our Dark Continent?
    6) I could ask you the same thing.
    7) Oh I think I do! A tallish-shortish guy? With lightish-darkish hair? Pretty-ugly features? I may have 6.7 billion cousins like that but see, they’re all over the show, not just in Congo
    icon_cool.gif No. And I have no idea how I logged onto this site. Maybe there’s an answer on Google.

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  • DCEric

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    Jun 21, 2009 2:16 PM GMT
    Hey now, when my grandparents made the crossing to the US, they actually believed that the streets were paved with gold, and that there were no bad policemen. I work with Africa constantly, including hosting visitors (we just sent one back to Western Cape... do you know her?) They have odd beliefs about America too. They hide out in their apartments terrified of the gun violence that supposedly over runs the streets each night. It take weeks to get them to do more than go to the grocery store and to work. My partner is from India, some of his family were shocked when he went home to visit because he had not become white from living in the US,

    /Oh and SA, is considered by the US foreign aid agencies to be borderline 3rd world.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jun 21, 2009 2:18 PM GMT
    Mr.DCEric saidHey now, when my grandparents made the crossing to the US, they actually believed that the streets were paved with gold, and that there were no bad policemen. I work with Africa constantly, including hosting visitors (we just sent one back to Western Cape... do you know her?) They have odd beliefs about America too. .



    One of the positive things about RJ.. we learn so much about perceptions about others on this site. It can be very helpful at times.
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    Jun 21, 2009 2:24 PM GMT
    Just to be clear, i did not post this to be ofensive in any way....Just thought i should share it. icon_smile.gif
  • Akula

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    Jun 21, 2009 2:41 PM GMT
    Ruggas,
    Welcome to the good old US of A with a population of some of the most ignorant people in the world. Were as in so called third world countries they speak multiple languages most people here barley speak English, and have trouble locating unusual places on a map like say, Europe. Someday I hope that people in this country will be more concerned with their child's education then if they make the football team or cheer leading squad. Until then I'm sorry to say people will always ask stupid questions like the ones you have been getting.
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    Jun 21, 2009 2:51 PM GMT
    Why do people expect everyone in America to be well versed with the world? That’s unrealistic. We too have our poor and uneducated whose lives are struggles. Do we really expect them to educate themselves about what's going on in some two-bit country when they barely have the resources to contend with what's going on in their neighborhood?

    i ride the buses and subways in nyc daily and eavesdrop on conversations. You would be surprised at how stupid/inane/mundane people are. (but that's just my opinion) I'm sure to them they think they are all that and a bag of chips

    And FYI - many people in other parts of the world think all americans are rich
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    Jun 21, 2009 2:58 PM GMT
    Hey! I get questioned about why I can speak English too! And which part of China Singapore is... icon_sad.gif

    No, I am not expecting every American to be a Geography whiz, but it's amazing how often I get these questions from people who are supposed to be global marketers for a multinational!
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    Jun 21, 2009 3:07 PM GMT
    BTW a "third world country" which has gay marriage.

    Which is more advanced: USA or SA?

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    Jun 21, 2009 3:13 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA saidWhy do people expect everyone in America to be well versed with the world? That’s unrealistic.


    He has a point. There are things about my own country that I’m clueless about. There are many things about the world that I am clueless about. It’s okay to not know everything (well, duh). But there is a way of phrasing questions and statements that allows you to get away with your ignorance and to learn something new about the world. The trick is, learning how to phrase questions and statements in this way.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jun 21, 2009 3:15 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA saidWhy do people expect everyone in America to be well versed with the world? That’s unrealistic. We too have our poor and uneducated whose lives are struggles. Do we really expect them to educate themselves about what's going on in some two-bit country when they barely have the resources to contend with what's going on in their neighborhood?




    He has a point in that people that are struggling are focused on their own plight and may not have the enthusiasm to look beyond their day to day requirements... I can understand that point.

    But referring to SA as "a two bit country" (which it isn't) shows something ... not terribly positive.
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    Jun 21, 2009 3:20 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan said referring to SA as "a two bit country" (which it isn't) shows something ... not terribly positive.


    (Hey, maybe if we’re uncomfortably quiet about it, he will save himself some embarrassment and edit it out of his post. Shhh… I’m just hopingicon_neutral.gif)
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    Jun 21, 2009 3:20 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidBTW a "third world country" which has gay marriage.

    Which is more advanced: USA or SA?

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    hhmmmmmmmm so is that the sole measurement by which a country's advancement is judged?

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    Jun 21, 2009 3:37 PM GMT
    nope. Just a reminder that the USA is not the best country in the world.

    None of them are.
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    Jun 21, 2009 3:51 PM GMT
    Stupid people are stupid and they are inclined to ask stupid questions.

    Sure, it is unrealistic to expect everyone know about everything around the world. But people who fail to pay attention should be made fun of mercilessly. And if you ask any of those questions you are not paying attention.
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    Jun 21, 2009 4:17 PM GMT
    Ruggas saidBeen on this site a while now...its great but some times I am shocked with the questions asked....

    Sorry you've experienced that. But in the US we get equally stupid questions and beliefs from our own citizens about our country. Our late-night TV comic Jay Leno had a regular comedy bit where he interviewed people on the street about various matters, and their laughable ignorance was appalling.

    So be comforted that Americans, at least, are not discriminating against South Africa alone. Many of us are equal-opportunity ignoramuses.
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    Jun 21, 2009 4:18 PM GMT
    ai ai this really got way intense!!!
    Mens raak baie opgewek oor iets wat entlik veronderstel was om te komiklik te wees. Ai ai die wereld is maar 'n snaakse plek. Maar julle is almal ledgends.

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    Jun 21, 2009 4:36 PM GMT
    That's why we need the American education system to help countries such as the South Africa and Diraq


  • Tiran

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    Jun 21, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA said
    And FYI - many people in other parts of the world think all americans are rich


    Compared to many people in the world, even the poorest people in the US and Canada are rich.
  • DCEric

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    Jun 21, 2009 4:40 PM GMT
    Ruggas saidJust to be clear, i did not post this to be ofensive in any way....Just thought i should share it. icon_smile.gif


    You have not been offensive.
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    Jun 21, 2009 4:41 PM GMT
    Akula saidRuggas,
    Welcome to the good old US of A with a population of some of the most ignorant people in the world. Were as in so called third world countries they speak multiple languages most people here barley speak English, and have trouble locating unusual places on a map like say, Europe. Someday I hope that people in this country will be more concerned with their child's education then if they make the football team or cheer leading squad. Until then I'm sorry to say people will always ask stupid questions like the ones you have been getting.

    You have an intersting perspective of Americans, and the world. One that I do not agree with- but one I can still respect.

    ...another thought from me: When people in other countries (by other, here I mostly me developing world and undeveloped world) discover that I am Jew, they call me Israeli. They assume that I 100% support Israels actions, which isn't even relevant given that I can't vote in their elections. One of my priorities when working with individuals from countries that have low Jewish populations is to make that distinction clear. Jewish =/= Israeli. Maybe one day I will get the balls to do the samething for homosexuality.
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    Jun 21, 2009 4:43 PM GMT
    Ruggas saidai ai this really got way intense!!!
    Mens raak baie opgewek oor iets wat entlik veronderstel was om te komiklik te wees. Ai ai die wereld is maar 'n snaakse plek. Maar julle is almal ledgends.



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    Jun 21, 2009 4:47 PM GMT
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    Jun 21, 2009 5:00 PM GMT
    You have to take into consideration that most people in this country are not motivated by learning. They're motivated by money, power, and having as many status symbols as they can show for it along with the perfect body to match the airbrushed image of the model on the magazine which spits the same crap month after month, year after year. The world affairs we take interest in are the ones that can benefit us or where we have something to lose (again, oil, money, power). Don't expect Americans to know a lot about Africa...it's like anywhere else. There are very developed areas, and there are very poor undeveloped areas. The difference is that in Africa, ther are groups of people who are resourceful enough to live off the land. Here if it doesn't come in a box, or cellophane packaging, we starve. If someone can get around that, it's typically because they made a conscious decision to be a farmer.

    Why aren't we better versed about something other than your wildlife or tribal culture? Because we get our information about Africa as a whole from documentaries, and not the news. Occasionally they'll flash the skyline of a developed African city, but for the most part you're riding along in a jeep through the brush on a dirt road on the way to see lions feed with your host. The truth is America doesn't consider Africa a threat to our resources, so it's there more for our entertainment purposes. Thus it doesn't make the news headlines, and it isn't even talked about too much in schools. There are no African based foreign language classes to my knowledge offered at most US universities.

    So, you can expect ignorance, ignorance, and more ignorance. Even from people with well above average IQs and education.