Today in Iran

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    Jun 22, 2009 7:48 PM GMT
    Much in the style of other theocrats, dictators, and terrorists, reports out of Iran are that some protestors that have been arrested are being tortured and now put on state run TV making "confessions" about how foreign agents made them do it and other odd statements.

    Apparently the Iranian government is very eager to convince people that no good Iranian would stand up to the government without being brainwashed by bad people from the west.

    Some other reports coming out of Iran today: (mainly unconfirmed due to the situation)

    A protest was scheduled for today at Hafte Tir in Tehran. It was to be a candlelit protest/vigil in honor of the woman named Neda who was killed on Saturday. Militia and police forces were waiting for the protestors at the location with riflemen on the rooftops in addition to forces on the ground. Protestors were attacked and driven away from the square with beatings, tear gas, and live gunfire. Crowds at that location alone were said to be upwards of 60,000 or more. No estimates of casualties have been offered yet. Protestors are in many locations, either by agreement or due to being channeled together by militia roadblocks and heavy patrols.

    Neda was quietly buried yesterday. The government was said to have forbidden any memorial service and have forbidden mosques from performing any other ceremonies in connection with anyone who may have died in the protests. Specifically, it was reported that Niloofar Mosque was barring anyone with candles from entering and praying for Neda. 15 militiamen on motorcycles were said to have attacked would be mourners outside the mosque with clubs.

    Plainclothed militiamen were reported to have surrounded the Kalameh Newspaper offices. No update on attacks or arrests there have been given.

    Iranian state TV was said to have reported over 1000 arrests today alone.

    Laleh Park and Shiroudi Stadium are said to have become the command center to organize anti-riot police and militia.

    There are reports of large scale violence in Tabriz (Mousavi's hometown). The disturbances are described as resembling Tehran on Saturday.

    Some reported that Rafsanjani made a trip to Qom today to try to gather support to remove the Ayatollah from power. Rafsanjani is the chairman of the assembly of experts, the council in charge of electing, monitoring, and dismissing the supreme leader. Normally, they do little except choose a new Ayatollah, but they are also the only group that could remove one. It has been said that he has garnered the needed council support, but that he is still waiting to gauge the support of the military, which may very well be needed to actually remove the ayatollah from power given his direct control over the revolutionary guard and the militias.

    Maziyar Bahari, a reporter for Newsweek, was arrested by Iran.

    More protestors were said to have also gathered in Mellat park near the State TV building in northern Tehran. Conflict reported without details.

    Militia have been said to be marking protestor's homes with paint to signal attacks by militiamen later after dark.

    Several opposition party politicians were reported to have joined the protestors at Tir square in Tehran.

    The government is said to be losing control(?) of NW Iran, Khorasan (NE Iran), and the mullahs in Qom who, after Rafsanjani's efforts today, are said to be joining the protests as well as putting support behind Rafsanjani and Mousavi.

    More clashes reported between protestors and government forces reported at Oromieh.

    A national strike is reported to have been called for beginning tomorrow. State TV has already been reported to have announced that anyone who does not show up for work tomorrow will be fired from their jobs on government orders. Some shopkeepers who have been compelled to go to their businesses already, have protested by simply not unlocking their doors and remaining holed up in their shops. It will have to be seen how many try similar tactics tomorrow and how the government responds. No one know how widespread the called for strike might end up being.

    Hospital sources are said to have reported at least 47 deaths and more than 1000 injured so far. Obviously these would not include those who have simply endured their injuries or have sought treatment at embassies who have opened their doors to injured protestors. At the same time, militiamen have tried to block embassies who have done so to prevent protestors from circumventing the hospitals, where they can be tracked and arrested or made to disappear.

    Karroubi, one of the candidates in the election, called for the government to release the bodies of those killed in the protests, that they are holding, and release them back to their families and allow their memorials. He also called for an end to the media censorship.

    Much like the homes of protestors, militiamen are reported to be using paintball guns to later identify protestors for
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    Jun 23, 2009 3:36 AM GMT
    Did you write all this icon_eek.gif
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    Jun 23, 2009 3:39 AM GMT


    icon_surprised.gif is there a question in there somewhere?
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    Jun 23, 2009 4:10 AM GMT
    cruelsummer saidDid you write all this icon_eek.gif


    Yup. Kinda scrolled through the events of the day and tried to compile what was going on.
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    Jun 23, 2009 4:13 AM GMT
    Wampy said
    cruelsummer saidDid you write all this icon_eek.gif


    Yup. Kinda scrolled through the events of the day and tried to compile what was going on.


    So what's you point? Are you trying to get a reaction or just inform the masses?
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    Jun 23, 2009 4:13 AM GMT
    dear gods in heaven... that must have taken a while.

    aside from you're journalistic tendencies, what would you expect from iran. they're trying to save themselves, and it's starting to look like there could very well be a second revolution
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    Jun 23, 2009 4:14 AM GMT
    Newsflash... The Middle East is Fucked

    How bout we stop sticking out dicks where they don't belong and just sodomize our own kind, thank you very much
  • captaindave4

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    Jun 23, 2009 7:08 AM GMT
    Thank you for the info, Wampy. I actually really appreciated your compilation.
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    Jun 23, 2009 1:42 PM GMT



    Thanks Wampy! Your post is great and makes strong points for the West to keep a low profile with resolutions etc as things are already bad enough for the protesters.
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    Jun 23, 2009 1:49 PM GMT
    Hunter9 saidNewsflash... The Middle East is Fucked

    How bout we stop sticking out dicks where they don't belong and just sodomize our own kind, thank you very much



    Wow! Is your nickname "Mr. Negativity"?
  • JohnG16775

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    Jun 23, 2009 2:32 PM GMT
    I appreciate the information thank you.
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    Jun 23, 2009 3:09 PM GMT
    Hunter9 said
    So what's you point? Are you trying to get a reaction or just inform the masses?


    I'm glad it was informative. Yes hunt, I was just putting info out there. There have been a few posts about what folks think about it, and I thought it might not hurt to try to put out some info on the actual events. I certainly have opinions, but that was not the point of the attempt at summary.

    And to everyone who found it useful, you are most welcome.
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    Jun 23, 2009 3:16 PM GMT
    yar that's really informative, thanks for the summary!
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    Jun 23, 2009 4:18 PM GMT
    (Tuesday) Today so far, there are reports of large scale worker no shows. Estimates of up to 30% of the workforce in Tehran has been reported to be staying at home today, though obviously there is no way to confirm this.

    Police and militia continue to heavily patrol, but there are no reports of large gatherings so far today. There are reports of some regular army units moving into the city. In light of Rafsanjani’s efforts in Qom, this development may go either way when confrontations resume on a large scale as they are expected to.

    There is a Wednesday march planned at Baharestan Square in Tehran at 4pm. It is said to be confirmed that Mousavi will march with the people in this protest. Whether the government forces will take this as both an excuse and an opportunity to arrest Mousavi will be something to watch for. As it is known ahead of time, one can expect government forces to be there in force ahead of time. Rafsanjani was last known to still be in Qom.

    Large scale protests being organized for Thursday.

    Government organizes a sanctioned protest in front of British embassy.

    Britain expels 2 Iranian diplomats in response to Iran expelling 2 British diplomats.

    Meanwhile, it has been recently reported that the people of the city of Mahaabad closed their Bazaar and joined the national strike today. No indication of what “the people” may refer to. Protestors, merchants, citizens in general agreement?

    There are now reports of widespread strikes in the Kordestan region as well.

    Iranian authorities have offered to return slain family members back to their families, but for a price. It has been reported that one family was told they could claim their son's body after they paid the equivilent of 3,000 dollars in compensation for the bullet(s) used to shoot him in the head during Saturday's protests.
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    Jun 23, 2009 8:14 PM GMT
    It is being reported that staff who handle newspapers and websites for Mousavi, have been arrested today
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    Jun 23, 2009 9:55 PM GMT
    Nice, I can tell you I've been looking for news on Iran today and couldn't find it anywhere until I looked here. To add a bit to your piece, my cousins Iranian neighbors in Toronto said there is now extensive talk of decreasing the power of the Ayatollah or removing the post entirely, which could be very interesting to see unfold.
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    Jun 23, 2009 11:01 PM GMT
    cruelsummer saidNice, I can tell you I've been looking for news on Iran today and couldn't find it anywhere until I looked here. To add a bit to your piece, my cousins Iranian neighbors in Toronto said there is now extensive talk of decreasing the power of the Ayatollah or removing the post entirely, which could be very interesting to see unfold.


    Yes, I had heard this too. Rafsanjani’s trip to Qom is said to be to gather support among the clerics to remove the Ayatollah. The rumor is that he has the necessary support, but there is still debate about who to replace him with, whether to change the scope of the powers of office, or whether to eliminate the position entirely and simply have the council rule without a single leader.
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    Jun 24, 2009 4:09 AM GMT
    Wampy saidIranian authorities have offered to return slain family members back to their families, but for a price. It has been reported that one family was told they could claim their son's body after they paid the equivilent of 3,000 dollars in compensation for the bullet(s) used to shoot him in the head during Saturday's protests.
    icon_eek.gif 3000 dollars!! what did they shoot him with .. gold?? Really the whole notion of paying just goes to show the state of mind of the oppressive government.

    I hope the protesters get the reformed government they want as much as they have paid with their lives. And what is the point of electing a leader if there is a supreme leader that can overrule and control things so much? I have heard some say Iranians in interview say they need separation of church and state .. I agree!
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    Jun 24, 2009 7:19 PM GMT
    (Wednesday 24th) Update

    Today does not sound good. Reports have been sent in that protests at the parliament, office of the Guardian Council, Bahareset, Valiasr, Enghelab, Vanak, Tajrish, Sadehge, Majles, Azadi Sq, have turned into widespread violence. The police, militia, and Hezbollah, have been reported to have been firing into crowds via snipers on buildings. On the ground, batons, tear gas, pepper spray, have all been employed. Some militia use the tactic of driving my on a motorcycle and clubbing people as they drive past. Eyewitnesses report that people are being hacked to death with axes and thrown off bridges. All indications are that the death toll of protestors today, will easily surpass the toll of the last several days combined. It is reported that the government is using trucks to haul the large numbers of dead away.

    No one seems to yet know where Mousavi is right now.

    Arrests are ongoing, but the violence of the day and spotty communications have overshadowed other bits of information. What is coming across so far, is all about the widespread violence.