Positive Thinking?

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    Jan 18, 2007 1:59 PM GMT
    So...one of the threads here got me thinking about something I read some time ago. Basically, the simple version (because I think I'm not a complicated thinker hehe) is that the subconscious mind has a profound impact upon our life. Apparently, the current thought is that it cannot determine the difference between reality and thought. Therefore, if you think something, picture something, or tell yourself something, to the subconscious it's real.

    So the point of this was that we so often program ourselves negatively but we have the power to learn to program our minds positively. I believe this is basically what the professional athletes do with visualizing their performance. I know it sounds odd or even crazy to most people but I am really coming to believe in this kind of thinking. It's definitely work overcoming a lifetime of negative thinking/programming. I'm really not a goals person at all and that is also work for me on a daily basis. However, day by day I think it truly did have an impact on the successes I've had over the last few years.

    So anyone else out there trying to program their minds for a successful outcome either in sports, bodybuilding or life in general?
  • canuckdave

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    Mar 08, 2007 12:24 AM GMT
    I belive in the power of positive thought as well, impacting on many areas of life.
    as a note: Due to chemical imbalace in the brain, such as not producing enough Seritonon, necessary for "pleasure response" for example, 10% of the population has a predisposition to depression and it's insideaous negative thinking. I live happily with managed depression with the help of Wellbutrin. Fortunatly for me,I exhibit no side effects, except perhaps with the exception of Increaed libido. WOOwho!!

    Others through stress (loss of a job), or catastrophe (loss of a loved one, accident etc.) can experince quick debilitating depression that no amount of "positive" thinking will fix. It takes time.
  • dfrourke

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    Mar 08, 2007 12:34 AM GMT
    The law of attraction...consider looking at this website.

    http://www.thesecret.tv/

    - David
  • MarkX

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    Mar 08, 2007 4:51 PM GMT
    David ~

    That's an interesting (and inexplicably disturbing) movie trailer. It's also pointedly vague. Can you tell us anything about it before we invest the $5 and 90 minutes in the movie itself?
  • dfrourke

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    Mar 08, 2007 5:33 PM GMT
    DON'T spend the money to watch it [I wasn't considering it an endorsement - just a resource]...this concept and its information is floating around everywhere...it basically talks about the law of attraction and what you put out you get back...

    It was featured on [of all things] OPRAH...I had a friend actually buy the DVD so I watched it...and it kinda freaked me out...only because I already believe in the concept [which is not rocket science]...

    it is why the last two cheerios in a bowl tend to stick together rather than float at opposite ends of the bowl...Try it...its true!

    - David
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    Mar 08, 2007 5:50 PM GMT
    They play off of people's fascination with the da vinci code.

    The author of this "secret" is a woman who says that if you want to lose weight, the best thing for you to do is to stop looking at fat people.
    Consequently, my friend gave up fat people as her Lenten promise.
  • dfrourke

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    Mar 08, 2007 7:02 PM GMT
    OK that is funny.

    - David
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    Mar 08, 2007 8:35 PM GMT
    Everything a person does is based on perception. Change your perception and you change your reality.
    For instance many people take it personally when a care cuts them off on the highway. The perception being that they cut "me" off. The reality is they rudely cut off a "car" in their way. If you change your perception, you change your reaction to such an incident.

    Wasn't that awfully Dr Phil of me. Maybe I owe him a royalty now.
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    Mar 08, 2007 8:36 PM GMT
    "What the bleep do we know?" is a fascinating dvd to watch as well...

    the whole concept of putting out positive energy makes sense... if you are constantly saying "i want more money" - you are actually telling the universe "i dont have enough money" - therefore that will continue to be your experience.

    that example can be applied to anything.

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    Mar 10, 2007 5:53 AM GMT
    Whereas if you give openly (picture open hands), you have placed yourself in a posture that is open to receiving. And so giving begets receiving.

    Yes, I agree that positive thoughts have a beneficial effect on our lives.

    Here's a practical, less philoshopical example: When lifting, many of us count out the reps silently to ourselves, no? Instead of counting 1 to 10 (with the preconceived notion that you'll be tired by rep #10), try counting backwards from 10 down. It's a twist of positive thinking that sometimes helps me get more reps in than I might otherwise get.
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    Mar 10, 2007 11:25 AM GMT

    Aaaaw, geez. Why does negativity always get the bad rap?! I mean, how else can positivity happen? If not for negative energy all you do-gooders couldn't possibly feel so positive.

    So there.
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    Mar 11, 2007 10:38 PM GMT
    I wanna add my 2 cents too. "The Sercret" is an amazing dvd, I watched it numerous times. As an advide reader of positive books for a good part of my life, "The Secret" simplifies the sucess principles in a way that are easy to apply. I must say that the beginning was really wierd but i kept watching. I reviewed the dvd many times now and have shared some of the material with clients.

    Just imagine working out in the gym and telling yourself over and over that you can't do it.

    Positive thinking is a fundimental component in every goal oriented tast that we seek to accomplish. Just think that in "everything" including the gym only 20% make it to thier goal. ONLY 20% - that is a true statistic.

    Now, Just think what impact parents, teachers, daycare workers, personal trainers, doctors and our partners (the list goes on), the IMPACT they can have on a child or adult with positive comments and edification can have.

    Les Brown is my all time favorite positive author and speaker. Very very positive and uplifting.
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    Mar 12, 2007 4:44 AM GMT
    I think that everything that comes into ones life, you are attracting into your life. And its attracted to you by virtue of the images you hold in your mind. Its what you are thinking. Think positive attract the positive. Its the law of attraction. Always remember if you see it in your mind, your going to hold that in your hand.
  • UStriathlete

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    Mar 15, 2007 3:09 PM GMT
    the secret is a great dvd. there are also nuerolinguist programing (NLP) and LRon hubbord as well. are sub concious and consicous are imputed as we are growing up, some with good things and not so good thing. i'm a true believer of being optimistic, there's always something to learn. "Everything happens for reason." Imagine the possibilities....all is well. bless all the pessimistic people....
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    Mar 15, 2007 4:02 PM GMT
    I enjoyed watching The Secret. It put a lot of things in my life back into perspective. It also brought a lot of what I was taught as a child to the fore front of my mind. Positive thinking and visualization is a very powerful thing.
    Focus on what you want in life and build towards. Do NOT foccus on the negative because once you put that energy out there, your just creating more of what you don't want.
    I recommend it to anyone who feels trapped in their lives, who is misguided, or feels lost with no direction. It may help you to rethink a lot of the things you do.
    The law of attraction is a pretty strong thing.
    Thas just my 2 cents(Ka Ching)

    Key
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    Mar 21, 2007 10:26 PM GMT
    Absolutely.

    Self confidence (true self-confidence), visualization, and focus, backed up by a strong work ethic, are a huge difference between winners and losers, and happy or not.

    So many gay folks hide from the imaginary gay.website boogie man.

    Belief in oneself is paramount to be happy. Belief in oneself is paramount in setting goals and achieving them.

    Often, I've seen gay men who shun self-confidence because they are so very timid and self-loathing, guilt-laden, low esteem. That courage to "walk like a real man" comes from within, and starts when you learn to like yourself. Positive thinking, being judgmental (judgement is a very good thing), and a plan for success, executed, all come together to advance towards personal, and professional, goals.

    Most people are capable of way more than they think they are.

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    Mar 22, 2007 3:35 AM GMT
    I'm a huge believer in the power of positive thinking. As a coach, we practice this every day in practice---either I have gifted kids or it really works (or maybe a combo of both), but we've had alot of success.
  • DiverScience

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    Mar 22, 2007 8:49 PM GMT
    Ok... so, I'm all for positive thinking. It's an amazing thing and especially in certain areas (health is one, see the placebo effect, etc).

    That said, this "law of attraction" is more than utter garbage. They describe people as being, "like magnets." If we were like magnets then Mother Theresa would have died of cancer while being beaten to death with bats. Magnets attract opposites, the negative pole attracts the positive pole. We do not act like magnets. This is a good thing.


    Positive visualization is a tool, like any other. It can affect your body in a lot of very poorly understood ways. You are capable of doing amazing things to your own biology, right down to the biochemistry and hormone level. And that can, in turn, affect how people see you, because it changes how you present yourself.

    Positive visualization is not going to magically make money fall out of the sky or build you huge muscles without going to the gym. It is a tool, a supplement that can help you increase the effectiveness of other tools, not some sort of magic silver bullet that will erase all your problems.
  • DiverScience

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    Mar 22, 2007 8:54 PM GMT
    As a side note, cheerios "attract" eachother because of surface tension, not because of the law of attraction. There is a slight curvature of the milk (caused by surface tension) that causes them to move toward the middle, and the milk on the cheerios themselves touches and creates surface tension keeping them together.

    Not magic, physics.
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    Mar 23, 2007 6:59 AM GMT
    With all this being said about positive thinking I would like to hear what examples you yourselves may have experienced or feel have made changes in your lives from practicing positive thinking.
    Right now I am going through a difficult time and will start to practice positive thinking and take in some of your examples to follow and see where it takes me. Share your experiences so others may start to make changes in how they percieve thier lives.
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    Mar 23, 2007 8:55 AM GMT
    Its basic psychology that believing in yourself will get you to where you want to go. But I don't think I'm buying the whole Cheerios attraction thing being the same as getting to your goal by believing in yourself. Correlation does not imply association. Also if you watch at the end of many games, you see the losers blaming external factors for losing. It could not be that it was their own bad performance. Its the winners mentality. You have what it takes, its just something else that stopped you. This is no secret, its just common sense that knwoing we can do something can help us get where we need to be. This is also one of many reasons people at the bottom rung of society tend to stay there. If you ask a poor guy in the getto if his son will ever make it in the world and he might tell you that unless his son goes off to play ball or becomes a rapper, there is no chance. I think im rambling and its late, but im sure you know what im talking about.
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    Mar 27, 2007 2:14 AM GMT
    I believe in the power of positive thinking, no question. I try not to even hang around with nay sayers or negative people at all. They will only bring you down to their level if they can and I don't want that. Faith can move mountains and that is the strongest way to put it.
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    Apr 10, 2007 6:16 AM GMT
    My BF bought me the Movie "The Secret" for Valentines Day, we watched it togethor, and It was a life changing movie for both of us. I recommend it to everyone.
    -Skip
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    May 27, 2007 5:57 AM GMT
    "I think that everything that comes into ones life, you are attracting into your life. And its attracted to you by virtue of the images you hold in your mind. Its what you are thinking. Think positive attract the positive. Its the law of attraction."

    As a survivor of acute myeloic leukemia 10 years ago I am offended by the stereotypical new-age-blah-blah that I attracted the illness & that getting sick was my fault or the consequence of faulty thinking....

    While we certainly bear responsability for the way we perceive life & handle whatever challenge we face, in my opinion it's a law of life as well that SHIT HAPPENS, that bad things happen to innocent people and that neither the people dying in nazi gaz chambers nor the children bombed in iraq can or should be held responsible for their fate.
  • UStriathlete

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    May 27, 2007 1:54 PM GMT
    Think BIG picute. somewhere down the line your thoughts were somewhere. sub couscously perhaps, if you believe in past lifes, maybe in another life time. Also, "everything does happen for a reason." sometimes it maybe "bad" at the time, however, I find later on, it was a "good" thing and/or a lesson learned-"hind sight". Situations like the holocust or wars are started by a group or individuals thoughts, when you get enough peoples energy going in the same direction "bad" and/or "good" things happen.