Just watched the video the lap-band surgeon sent me

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    Jun 26, 2009 3:04 AM GMT
    It's very thorough. You can even send questions directly to the surgeon. And for people who think it's a quick fix, you should really do more research. This video clearly states that the band is only a tool and weight loss varies with the patient and his/her commitment.

    Or you could just strap 100 pounds to your waist for a few weeks.
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    Jun 26, 2009 7:15 AM GMT
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    Keep in mind, it's not a quick fix it's a tool for a long term commitment to healthy and sustainable weight loss....

    Oh and here's another

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    Oh and...FYI if someone was going to cut me open and rewire my digestive system, I'd damn well expect to be able to ask them questions in person not the ability to send him an email and have him get back to me



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    Jun 26, 2009 7:54 AM GMT
    I have 2 close gym buddies both around 5'10. One larger frame guy other medium. The large guy lost 127 lbs in 19 months. The other went from a size 54 waist to a 34-he had to have surgery to remove loose skin. Both are really handsome guys, but you might not have noticed if they didn't put the time in the gym and ate right. It also took years off their apperance. I trained the large framed guy.
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    Jun 26, 2009 11:15 AM GMT
    Ha Ha MsclDrew, that's hilarious. A very obvious way to point out how shallow and dodgy lap band surgery is. Here in Australia they're thinking of paying for lap band surgery to help address the obesity epidemic! What a waste of money, you can still eat crap with lap band, just not as much. You'd become a unhealthy, skinny bastard!
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    Jun 26, 2009 10:11 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidI have 2 close gym buddies both around 5'10. One larger frame guy other medium. The large guy lost 127 lbs in 19 months. The other went from a size 54 waist to a 34-he had to have surgery to remove loose skin. Both are really handsome guys, but you might not have noticed if they didn't put the time in the gym and ate right. It also took years off their apperance. I trained the large framed guy.


    Did they have lap-band surgery?
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    Jun 26, 2009 11:01 PM GMT

    I shan't slam you, OTWTM, after experiencing a sister get the surgery, I understand that it is a tool. I'm just not sure which tool. I love metaphor and when she got it I said she was trimming rose bushes with a chain saw.
    Is dieting really so hard that you have to have serious surgery that alters your body drastically? My sister lost the weight fast, but she is so different.
    When she was big it wasn't droopy fat, she was kinda built like a volley ball girl: big hips, breast, athletic, but by no means a petite girl. She was strong too, if she was in a full stride and you reached out and grabbed her arm, she'd take you with her.

    ...not anymore. She is so skinny now and she never eats. Turns out the diet for that surgery is pretty strict and some things just won't stay down. If I grabbed her arm today, I bet I might hurt her. Good news is, she got counseling before this thing and it really has opened her eyes a lot to why she was big (had tons to do with our mother....not surprising). Her diet has changed her kids eating habits too. They had never even heard of soy milk, now that's all she buys. Still, the diet seems to be so strict until it's taken the fun out of eating for her and I imagine that not knowing what food might disagree with you is frustrating.

    Getting counseling, finding the root of the problem, changing her eating habits all could have been done without this surgery.

    However, I brought her up before in pertinence to your issue. I can say with much certainty that she wasn't going to lose the weight being and living the way she was. For her the surgery definitely ushered a lot of things in that I know she wouldn't have accepted without it.

    The question becomes, can I dedicate myself the proper way in the gym and lose this weight? If the answer is no, you might as well go for this surgery because I pep talk from any jock can’t compete with an internal deterrent, something that through no fault of your own, I seem to have without lap band and you lack.
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    Jun 27, 2009 2:22 PM GMT
    GuiltyGear said

    The question becomes, can I dedicate myself the proper way in the gym and lose this weight? If the answer is no, you might as well go for this surgery because I pep talk from any jock can’t compete with an internal deterrent, something that through no fault of your own, I seem to have without lap band and you lack.


    Your question assumes this is just a quick fix. It's not! Can I dedicate myself the proper way to the gym? ABSOLUTELY!!!! But losing and gaining the same sixty pounds over and over is unbearable. I don't want to keep setting myself up for the heartache of failure anymore.
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    Jun 29, 2009 2:52 AM GMT
    sadly you are likely setting yourself up for a worse failure.
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    Jun 29, 2009 2:58 AM GMT
    I suggest you work to understand why you can't control your behavior first.

    Many folks I know that have had surgery have ended up in a worse spot.

    You need to figure out what's going on with your brain that causes you to engage in destructive behavior.
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    Jun 29, 2009 3:24 AM GMT
    Another thing, the lap band procedure has not done as well (as far as weight kept off) in long term patients as gastric bypass has done in recent history. I'm not saying you should get Bypass surgery (especially if discipline is the problem) but ask a HELL of a lot of questions in person.

    I know someone who went through a great educational, and informative program that informed them about Gastric Bypass surgery (and what to expect before afterwards) before this person ever went under the knife.

    You should do the same for this procedure if it's something you are seriously considering.
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    Jun 29, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
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    Jun 29, 2009 5:56 PM GMT
    Buffyfan84 saidAnother thing, the lap band procedure has not done as well (as far as weight kept off) in long term patients as gastric bypass has done in recent history. I'm not saying you should get Bypass surgery (especially if discipline is the problem) but ask a HELL of a lot of questions in person.

    I know someone who went through a great educational, and informative program that informed them about Gastric Bypass surgery (and what to expect before afterwards) before this person ever went under the knife.

    You should do the same for this procedure if it's something you are seriously considering.


    Well, my first consultation is July 21st. I have plenty of time between now and the surgery to ask questions and get information.
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    Jun 30, 2009 5:46 AM GMT
    it so begs the question, who, is the bigger tool.

    You don't want to gain and lose that same 60 pounds, then when you lose 60 pounds don't stuff your gawd damned face with food..

    WOW revolutionary I might write a book.
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    Jun 30, 2009 5:51 AM GMT
    anyone see the Biggest Loser this year? Ron had bypass surgery and was 400+lbs, its about behavior, not the technique of how you lose it. Eat less, dont eat your emotions, work through them.
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    Jun 30, 2009 5:22 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidit so begs the question, who, is the bigger tool.

    You don't want to gain and lose that same 60 pounds, then when you lose 60 pounds don't stuff your gawd damned face with food..

    WOW revolutionary I might write a book.


    You know, I wish it were that easy.
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    Jun 30, 2009 5:28 PM GMT
    Same guy.
    Same stuff.
    Different year.
    Same advice.
    Cry me a river.

    We've been telling him the same thing for two years, but, he won't change, or, get the help.

    Whatever.

    Read about it in the obits.
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    Jun 30, 2009 5:39 PM GMT
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    Not quite sure I understand the meaning of this.
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    Jun 30, 2009 6:21 PM GMT
    Well it seems to be some sort of really skinny dude nailed to a 2 by 4, an alcoholic sheep, some dude with a bowl cut pointing and laughing at DIY disaster guy and a women in a really butt ugly wedding dress making out with a 12 year old...

    Maybe a comedy skit of some sort? Honey i told you to read the instructions on that nail gun


    Seriously though it is that simple either you would rather be thin and healthy or you would rather sit on your ass and eat cookies...One of those impulses is overriding the other



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    Jun 30, 2009 6:31 PM GMT
    Even if you have this band don't you still have the same problem? Controlling your urge to eat more than your body needs?

    I've heard that some people who have this type of surgery end up liquidising their meals and drinking it through a straw just so they can get continue to eat large amounts of food.
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    Jun 30, 2009 6:39 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidSame guy.
    Same stuff.
    Different year.
    Same advice.
    Cry me a river.

    We've been telling him the same thing for two years, but, he won't change, or, get the help.

    Whatever.

    Read about it in the obits.


    Aren't I getting the help? My doctor told me he's never seen anyone with my health issues get better without surgical intervention. That's what i'm planning to do.
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    Jun 30, 2009 6:54 PM GMT
    MsclDrew saidWell it seems to be some sort of really skinny dude nailed to a 2 by 4, an alcoholic sheep, some dude with a bowl cut pointing and laughing at DIY disaster guy and a women in a really butt ugly wedding dress making out with a 12 year old...

    Maybe a comedy skit of some sort? Honey i told you to read the instructions on that nail gun


    Seriously though it is that simple either you would rather be thin and healthy or you would rather sit on your ass and eat cookies...One of those impulses is overriding the other





    Truth can be a bitch, but, this is darn funny.

    You forgot to mention the boys were always contradicting themselves, and 12 of them hung out together and had a foot thing going. LMAO.

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    Jun 30, 2009 6:56 PM GMT
    What needs fixed is the brain, and not the stomach. Compulsive is compulsive. Once the small stomach is stretched back out, you're right back where you started. Sure doesn't take a brainiac to figure that out.

    Most folks I've met that have had the bands end right back where they started, or worse, within five years.

    A digit control program is the cure.
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    Jun 30, 2009 7:18 PM GMT
    I have a friend that just got out of the hospital after gastric bypass surgery. She was supposed to be in for 3 days, but was in for 2 weeks. As my office is one block from the hospital, I went and visited her every day for lunch when others couldn't. She had major complications with her diabetes, heart rates, etc. It's been really rough for her. This was a last ditch effort for her, but I really wish she could have just done it through diet and exercise, but she didn't have the internal resources for that.
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    lilTanker saidit so begs the question, who, is the bigger tool.

    You don't want to gain and lose that same 60 pounds, then when you lose 60 pounds don't stuff your gawd damned face with food..

    WOW revolutionary I might write a book.


    You know, I wish it were that easy.

    Stop making god damn excuses for your self, unless you have some wildly odd medical problem or a thyroid condition, shut the fuck up and eat properly, get off your god damned arse and move.

    Do something, stuff your face if you want, but quit bitching about it and do it!
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    Jul 01, 2009 2:21 AM GMT
    i would suggest you speak with a therapist, or a well informed personal trainer, so they can establish what intrinsic motivation you have towards exercise and also complete motivational interviewing. If you know anyone who has a degree in exercise physiology or a related field, they should be informed on may ways to help people start and adhere to exercise.

    I would also suggest doing exercise and maintaining a proper diet over the surgery. The surgery has more changes in one's physiology that you'd think. Not only are you're hormone levels crazy, but people have been shown to experience different gait patterns, some being bad (i helped conduct some biomechanics research for this). And although being obese typically shows compensation at other joints while ambulating, (one would think that after surgery, and having lost weight, they would return to 'normal', most do) there can be changes in torque values and different stress on muscles that could lead to odd patterns of muscle coactivity.

    Basically when someone looses all the weight, the body tries to adapt, but not all people are successful at doing so, and have walking problems with their joints, not to mention the other body systems that are affect by crazy hormone levels.

    Just freaking do it the health way and loose the weight naturally.