THE PALIN GOVERNOR: Assess her chances as a presidential figure....

  • HndsmKansan

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    Jun 27, 2009 1:02 PM GMT
    I sort of miss talking about Palin.. How many threads were done on her during the campaign?

    Now that the Presidential election is long faded and 2012 is a focus for some of the candidates, do you really think Palin will return as a viable candidate, or will fade out (except as a tool for the Right)?

    Is the Republican party destined to nominate this candidate or get someone who is more acceptable to all?
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    Jun 27, 2009 2:17 PM GMT
    Zero. Even against Hillary. She's popular with the far right only. No moderates would vote for her.

    Her best chance for a nomination is 2012 because no realistic Republican is gonna try to run against an incumbent Obama.
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    Jun 27, 2009 2:26 PM GMT
    They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska. How Dumb!!sicon_rolleyes.gif

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    Jun 27, 2009 2:32 PM GMT

    No, she won't return. What we will see is a candidate closely aligned with the religious right. All those folks who sat at home (like the ones who returned in round two in the Chambliss senate race) will be back. I do not think we will have a "mouthy" candidate however....

    Stay tuned. The game is afoot. Just like the current silent "muslce" batttle on healthcare reform.

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    Jun 27, 2009 2:33 PM GMT
    ZERO!
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    Jun 27, 2009 2:35 PM GMT
    wyrln saidZero. Even against Hillary. She's popular with the far right only. No moderates would vote for her.

    Her best chance for a nomination is 2012 because no realistic Republican is gonna try to run against an incumbent Obama.

    That may be true TODAY. Predicting US politics 3 years from now is a risky business.

    Democrat Jimmy Carter started out great. Then the economy tanked, and inflation went to record levels. The Iranians took our entire embassy there hostages for over a year, and our attempt to rescue them was an embarrassing failure that lost more lives.

    It seemed like the US didn't know how to do anything right anymore as the bad news piled on, and public morale was in the toilet. So over-aged and previous Presidential primary loser Ronald Reagan stepped forward once again and won the prize. Carter's term is still viewed today as a failed Presidency by most historians, despite him being a bright & well-meaning guy.

    I hope the religious right is on the decline, but it may just be lying in wait, and could roar back and dominate 2012. And Palin would be an ideal candidate for them.
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    Jun 27, 2009 2:38 PM GMT
    ZERO for 2012 even if she runs. But look out in 2016 and beyond.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jun 27, 2009 2:40 PM GMT
    cruelsummer saidZERO for 2012 even if she runs. But look out in 2016 and beyond.


    Look out for what?
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    Jun 27, 2009 2:41 PM GMT
    People will be sick of democrats by then, and republicans (which can be Palin) will be back. icon_twisted.gif
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jun 27, 2009 2:44 PM GMT
    cruelsummer saidPeople will be sick of democrats by that time, and republicans (which can be Palin) will be back. icon_twisted.gif


    Well its true, people may want a change (whether prudent or not) after years of a single party.... but you are also assuming that Obama will be reelected
    in 2012. So there may be a push to elect a republican at that time.

    But I sure as hell hope (and I would assume) it won't be this woman.
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    Jun 27, 2009 2:45 PM GMT
    She might evolve though. Who knows. But you're right, it's scary as she stands.
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    Jun 27, 2009 2:52 PM GMT
    RV, you're right. I remember the malaise leading up to Reagan's election. It's possible we could be sick of Obama by 2012.

    Cruelsummer, if the Republicans have a chance in 2012 or 2016, they better not blow it by nominating Palin. She's the darling of the extremists only.
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    Jun 27, 2009 2:53 PM GMT
    I doubt if she even wants to run and put herself through the treatment she was subjected to in '08. She will be a force in the party though. She has a lot of supporters, and she still draws big crowds where ever she goes. She doesn't bug me nearly as much as some of the others. If she's really serious, she should run for Senator and get more involved in national policy the next 4-to-6 years, then look at it again in 2016.
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    Jun 27, 2009 3:00 PM GMT
    wyrln saidZero. Even against Hillary. She's popular with the far right only. No moderates would vote for her.

    Her best chance for a nomination is 2012 because no realistic Republican is gonna try to run against an incumbent Obama.


    Actually she was not popular with the far right, because the far right are boneheads. She was ripped apart by the far left, and the far right, and the elitist on both sides as well.

    Whether you like her or not, because of the way independents are feeling about Obama now, and keep in mind they are the ones who made the election, I wouldn't be surprised if she became VP this time.

    We'll see.

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    Jun 27, 2009 3:05 PM GMT
    Rodmramer saidThey're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska. How Dumb!!sicon_rolleyes.gif

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    Palin never said she could see Russia from her house. That is what Tina Fae said when she was making fun of her, it was funny and all, but yeah anyone who doesn't get their news from SNL, or the other comedy networks out there (yes I called them that), would have known that Palin never said that.

    Now some of the things Biden has said, are so silly that you'd think it was first cooked up by a comedian on SNL or something haha.
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    Jun 27, 2009 3:18 PM GMT
    I think she's something of a fucktard, but I'm not counting her out. It continually dumbfounds me how many people forget that another fucktard got elected twice. The moment we start dismissing the opposition out of hand, is the moment we're all fucked again.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jun 27, 2009 3:25 PM GMT
    Rad_d81 said


    Whether you like her or not, because of the way independents are feeling about Obama now, and keep in mind they are the ones who made the election, I wouldn't be surprised if she became VP this time.

    We'll see.




    And after 6 months.... so goes 2012...

    The reality is, things will be much different in terms of how the public sees Obama, as stated above, by 2012. That perception will also bring about a Repubican candidate....when by token or a real challenge.

    And do you think independents are going to support this woman just because they might (and thats a might) not support Obama again?
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    Jun 27, 2009 3:25 PM GMT
    I doubt very seriously Palin would do so, given all that she went through during the campaign and the recent cat fight she participated in over being the key speaker or not at a fundraiser. I see Obama back in 2012 and if she is able, a run by Hillary in 2016. Barring that, I would expect to see the 'youth factor continue and have to candidates on either side that are not really part of the old and dying good ole boys network.
  • jlly_rnchr

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    Jun 27, 2009 3:29 PM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite saidI think she's something of a fucktard, but I'm not counting her out. It continually dumbfounds me how many people forget that another fucktard got elected twice. The moment we start dismissing the opposition out of hand, is the moment we're all fucked again.


    He was not elected twice, maybe once.

    Palin really is a draw for the base and the base only. She didn't get anyone to register as a Republican. She is dumb. She is extremist. She is alienating. She can't give an interview to save her life. It would be so foolish for Republicans to allow her to be nominated in 2012. And if that is going to happen, I hope she started studying up on not being an idiot last December.

    All that being said, I do miss her, because she is entertaining. The Letterman thing was really overblown though.


    PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
    She did say you can see Russia.
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    Jun 27, 2009 3:42 PM GMT
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    wyrln saidZero. Even against Hillary. She's popular with the far right only. No moderates would vote for her.

    Her best chance for a nomination is 2012 because no realistic Republican is gonna try to run against an incumbent Obama.


    Actually she was not popular with the far right, because the far right are boneheads. She was ripped apart by the far left, and the far right, and the elitist on both sides as well.

    Whether you like her or not, because of the way independents are feeling about Obama now, and keep in mind they are the ones who made the election, I wouldn't be surprised if she became VP this time.

    We'll see.



    How are Independents feeling about Obama? Because according to polling he is still really damn popular among Independents, with an average of 53% approval and only a 33% disapproval. And among Democrats... 89% approval is nothing to sneeze at.

    She wasn't torn up by the left or the far right or by space aliens. The problem is she is an absolute idiot. I read an interview with her in which she talked about fiscal responsibility by giving money to all Alaskans from money generated by the state oil program... and then calling Obama a Socialist. Come on!
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    Jun 27, 2009 3:44 PM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite saidI think she's something of a fucktard, but I'm not counting her out. It continually dumbfounds me how many people forget that another fucktard got elected twice. The moment we start dismissing the opposition out of hand, is the moment we're all fucked again.
    True, but hopefully folks have learned their fucktard lesson for about 25 years.
  • Tiller66

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    Jun 27, 2009 4:02 PM GMT
    I had a frienemy on facebook that was a fanantic supporter of her's and even when I agreed with him about something it was'nt enough.I fact since I said I voted for Obama(gasp)he started to call him my god I tryied to tell him that was'nt my god a couple of times but would'nt listen.So just just started to call her Goddess Palin of the Northicon_twisted.gifboy he went off about that saying how dareI insult her like that and kicked me off his friends listicon_cry.gif He really did'nt like when I brought up that most of the GOP was'nt behind her bid for the white house,I sware that I saw my screen go red his replay was filled with venom.Oh but it was so fun to debate with him.
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    Jun 27, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidI sort of miss talking about Palin.. How many threads were done on her during the campaign?

    Now that the Presidential election is long faded and 2012 is a focus for some of the candidates, do you really think Palin will return as a viable candidate, or will fade out (except as a tool for the Right)?

    Is the Republican party destined to nominate this candidate or get someone who is more acceptable to all?


    I have heard that this condition is treatable. I suggest a long vacation with lots of culture, good food and wine. Italy sounds like it may do the trick.

    And to answer your question, anything, absolutely anything is possible with American politics. That is why it is so interesting (and at times frustrating).
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    Jun 27, 2009 4:11 PM GMT
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    Rodmramer saidThey're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska. How Dumb!!sicon_rolleyes.gif

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    Palin never said she could see Russia from her house. That is what Tina Fae said when she was making fun of her, it was funny and all, but yeah anyone who doesn't get their news from SNL, or the other comedy networks out there (yes I called them that), would have known that Palin never said that.

    Now some of the things Biden has said, are so silly that you'd think it was first cooked up by a comedian on SNL or something haha.


    She indeed said while Katie Courie and Charlie Gibson interviewed her
  • GQjock

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    Jun 27, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
    I wouldn't be smirkin' if I were you guys

    Remember we voted for Ronnie twice and almost voted for George Wtf Bush twice too

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