How Much Cardio to do when trying to build muscle mass.

  • gymboy104

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    Jun 27, 2009 9:48 PM GMT
    hey guys - Im trying to build some good solid muscle mass. I have gained about 10lbs in the past 6 weeks - working out 5-6 days a week, taking 2-3 protein shakes a day, eating smaller meals throughout the day and using the stack of supplements from USP Labs - called Asteroid Stack.

    Currently 5'7" and weight 142 as of todays gym trip. Hoping to get to 155 by end of summer - Aug 30th.

    I am a hardgainer - so Im using some different techniques to pack on some size - I think it's working but I want to know how much low intensity cardio I should do. I've been doing the eliptical 2 days a week at the gym inbetween days im lifting.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks,
    Brad
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    Jun 28, 2009 7:40 AM GMT
    As a hard gainer, cardio is optional for you, at least while you're young. I'm the opposite, cardio is always mandatory for me.

    I have a book, The Book of Muscle, by Ian King. King explains all about fast-twitch and slow-twitch muscle fibers. Fast-twitch fibers grow easily, but slow twitch fibers don't, and people are born with different combinations. Some marathoner dude has about 80% slow twitch fibers, and he is lean lean lean. Carl Lewis, a sprinter, has about 70% fast twitch fibers, and he has big manly muscle thighs.

    The only chance you have to make slow twitch fibers grow, is to not use them for endurance training, like cardio. Then they'll grow a little.

    This advice is controversial, and I will get flamed by guys who tell you that you must do cardio. The compromise is to do HIIT, which you can read all about here: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/561314/.
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    Jun 28, 2009 1:27 PM GMT
    for your present goals I wouldn´t do low intensity cardio in the gym at at all. You can make your lifting supply with the cardio vascular work you need for health by doing them as fast as you can (that doesn´t mean throwing the weights, it means shorter rests between sets and exercises). You do low intensity cardio when you walk around, clean, climb stairs, move boxes etc

    Also for max gains then make sure you get enough rest: doing extra cardio on days off is not helping you with that goal.

  • gymboy104

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    Jun 29, 2009 9:31 PM GMT
    Thanks guys - but I keep hearing people tell me light - low intensity cardio is good on days when Im not lifting - im not a SUPER hardgainer - I mean with the new suppliments I am taking - asteroid stack from USP labs Ive been able to gain 10lbs in the last 6 weeks - so i dont think thats super hardgainer.

    I guess whats Im asking is doing some cardio on the eliptical eliminating my muscle gains?
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    Jun 30, 2009 6:36 AM GMT
    Those supplements aren't good for you kidneys. Just sayin'
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    Jun 30, 2009 7:23 AM GMT
    cuteafboy saidThanks guys - but I keep hearing people tell me light - low intensity cardio is good on days when Im not lifting - im not a SUPER hardgainer - I mean with the new suppliments I am taking - asteroid stack from USP labs Ive been able to gain 10lbs in the last 6 weeks - so i dont think thats super hardgainer.

    I guess whats Im asking is doing some cardio on the eliptical eliminating my muscle gains?


    LOL.

    5"7", 142, at 28 years old? You're admitting to the S-word online? Golly, are you smart? (Get Firefox. It has a spell checker.)

    I'm 5'5", and weighed 175 at 12% IN HIGH SCHOOL. I weighed 230 at 28, at 12%. No S-word either.

    Young man, EAT. You look like you're starving to death.

    With regard to cardio, it isn't not going to hold you up unless you don't eat. In fact, it'll help you, as long as you don't do endless hours of it. It's important to have some cardiac work in any workout routine. The trick is balance.

    Eat. Do a few hours of cardio every week, just don't do it endlessly.

    Did I say eat?

    I know one thing: you're a slow thinker if not a hard gainer.

    Sorry to be so honest, and possibly bruise your ego, but, next time, engage the brain, too.

    Calories are key. Don't be a moron about what you say online.

    You can read up on sacroplasmic hypertrophy.
  • Sparkycat

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    Jun 30, 2009 7:36 AM GMT
    Steroids! Steroids! I love steroids. I've taken them before and will take them again. And I'll buy them illegally online. Because I LOVE STEROIDS!!!!.

    There, I said it online. Now come and get me Uncle Sam.
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    Jul 07, 2009 12:27 AM GMT
    chuckystud said
    cuteafboy saidThanks guys - but I keep hearing people tell me light - low intensity cardio is good on days when Im not lifting - im not a SUPER hardgainer - I mean with the new suppliments I am taking - asteroid stack from USP labs Ive been able to gain 10lbs in the last 6 weeks - so i dont think thats super hardgainer.

    I guess whats Im asking is doing some cardio on the eliptical eliminating my muscle gains?


    LOL.

    5"7", 142, at 28 years old? You're admitting to the S-word online? Golly, are you smart? (Get Firefox. It has a spell checker.)

    I'm 5'5", and weighed 175 at 12% IN HIGH SCHOOL. I weighed 230 at 28, at 12%. No S-word either.

    Young man, EAT. You look like you're starving to death.

    With regard to cardio, it isn't not going to hold you up unless you don't eat. In fact, it'll help you, as long as you don't do endless hours of it. It's important to have some cardiac work in any workout routine. The trick is balance.

    Eat. Do a few hours of cardio every week, just don't do it endlessly.

    Did I say eat?

    I know one thing: you're a slow thinker if not a hard gainer.

    Sorry to be so honest, and possibly bruise your ego, but, next time, engage the brain, too.

    Calories are key. Don't be a moron about what you say online.

    You can read up on sacroplasmic hypertrophy.


    jerkoff.
  • TexanMan82

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    Jul 07, 2009 4:38 AM GMT
    Aznewbie said
    chuckystud said
    cuteafboy saidThanks guys - but I keep hearing people tell me light - low intensity cardio is good on days when Im not lifting - im not a SUPER hardgainer - I mean with the new suppliments I am taking - asteroid stack from USP labs Ive been able to gain 10lbs in the last 6 weeks - so i dont think thats super hardgainer.

    I guess whats Im asking is doing some cardio on the eliptical eliminating my muscle gains?


    LOL.

    5"7", 142, at 28 years old? You're admitting to the S-word online? Golly, are you smart? (Get Firefox. It has a spell checker.)

    I'm 5'5", and weighed 175 at 12% IN HIGH SCHOOL. I weighed 230 at 28, at 12%. No S-word either.

    Young man, EAT. You look like you're starving to death.

    With regard to cardio, it isn't not going to hold you up unless you don't eat. In fact, it'll help you, as long as you don't do endless hours of it. It's important to have some cardiac work in any workout routine. The trick is balance.

    Eat. Do a few hours of cardio every week, just don't do it endlessly.

    Did I say eat?

    I know one thing: you're a slow thinker if not a hard gainer.

    Sorry to be so honest, and possibly bruise your ego, but, next time, engage the brain, too.

    Calories are key. Don't be a moron about what you say online.

    You can read up on sacroplasmic hypertrophy.


    jerkoff.


    Although crude, he's correct--about the eating.
  • muscled

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    Jul 07, 2009 9:46 AM GMT
    Cardio is the devil's work!

    Don't do it, ever, if you're trying build muscle mass..

    Even if you're trying to 'cut down', it's still a poor substitute for eating right. Cardio should only be used as a metabolic tweak after you've got your eating plan right.

    Cheers,

    Ned