What Are You Going To Do To Celebrate The 40th Anniversary Of Stonewall?

  • metta

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    Jun 28, 2009 4:27 AM GMT

    June 28th, 1969

    I made a little tribute this evening in front of my suburban home:

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    is difficult to read in the photo....but it says:

    Stonewall....40 Years....Fighting for love <3 And Equality =







    Stonewall rebel reflects 40 years after NYC riots
    http://www.democracynow.org/2009/6/26/stonewall_riots_40th_anniversary_a_look



    http://outhistory.org/wiki/Main_Page



    Being that the older the people are statistically, the more they are against equal rights, I think that it is wonderful that the AARP (American Association for the Advancement of Retired Persons), the second largest organization in the US did several pieces about Stonewall and the history of gay rights:

    http://www.aarp.org/makeadifference/advocacy/stonewall_40th_anniversary/



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    Jun 28, 2009 4:55 AM GMT
    The organization I work for has been celebrating the 40th all month. We'll be culminating it with our annual Pride Brunch tomorrow, where guests can watch the NYC parade with cocktails and nummy treats.

    So, basically, I'm working all day. LOL

    Check out our online campaign:

    http://www.inthelifetv.org/stonewall40/
  • metta

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    Jun 28, 2009 8:54 AM GMT


    http://www.inthelifetv.org/stonewall40/
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    Jun 28, 2009 11:49 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor said...Where's a rowdy Drag Queen with a mean left hook when you need one !
    I may have to call on my friend Red Vespa...icon_cool.gif

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    Jun 28, 2009 1:48 PM GMT
    I have to say nothing, because it has nothing to do with Oz, or me as an Aussie, and homosexuality is not an American creation.

    Mind you when I was active in the gay community, it still was not safe,and the gay club I worked in, still endured police raids. So I was apart of the gay fight, in Oz, way back then.

    But then this country is not as backward as the US of A is on homosexual rights either.

    So in many ways it's still an issue in the US of A.
  • zakariahzol

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    Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM GMT
    What can I do, all alone in this gay unfriendly country. Maybe I toast a drink to Stonewall.
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    Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM GMT
    Nothing.
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    Jun 28, 2009 3:21 PM GMT
    RyanReBoRn saidNothing.
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    I'm not sure what I'll be doing. Maybe I'll break out my 'second class citizen' shirt I made for the prop 8 protest.
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    Jun 28, 2009 3:42 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks said
    RyanReBoRn saidNothing.
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    I'm not sure what I'll be doing. Maybe I'll break out my 'second class citizen' shirt I made for the prop 8 protest.


    Still nothing, maybe read a chapter in my book on technical writing.

    40 years have passed with barely any progress on achieving equality isn't something to celebrate, it's an indication that this failed strategy needs to change.

    At this rate, you'll be wearing that second class citizen shirt for many more years to come...
  • metta

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    Jun 28, 2009 3:47 PM GMT
    ^
    wow...you really don't know your history if you think that not much has changed. icon_rolleyes.gif


    And as to your answer to the question speak volumes about yourself. You have a right to lean and change your mind. Things will not change for the better by doing 'nothing'.
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    Jun 28, 2009 3:49 PM GMT
    RyanReBoRn said

    Still nothing, maybe read a chapter in my book on technical writing.

    40 years have passed with barely any progress on achieving equality isn't something to celebrate, it's an indication that this failed strategy needs to change.

    At this rate, you'll be wearing that second class citizen shirt for many more years to come...


    Barely?

    In the US maybe. But what happened had consequences that reached far beyond your borders. Younger people have far more open views nowadays too, but yeah... dealing with the government and their penchant for appeasing the fundamentalist right in an effort to look 'purer' is the hard part.

    As for 'failed strategy'. What exactly do you mean by that? Stonewall's 'strategy' was open resistance and direct confrontation. And that's certainly vastly different from what HRC is doing right now.

    Or do you have a problem with the fact that the guys who did it were mostly Drag Queens? Where were the masculine gays back then huh?
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    Jun 28, 2009 3:57 PM GMT
    RyanReBoRn said
    GwgTrunks said
    RyanReBoRn saidNothing.
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    I'm not sure what I'll be doing. Maybe I'll break out my 'second class citizen' shirt I made for the prop 8 protest.


    Still nothing, maybe read a chapter in my book on technical writing.

    40 years have passed with barely any progress on achieving equality isn't something to celebrate, it's an indication that this failed strategy needs to change.

    At this rate, you'll be wearing that second class citizen shirt for many more years to come...


    Be glad I'm on my Wii right now, and I don't want to chicken peck out a response.

    I'll say this though... It's not in celebration, you tool.
  • swimbikerun

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    Jun 28, 2009 4:00 PM GMT
    A gay bar in Ft. Worth Texas was raided?:

    http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/06/28/youve-gotta-be-shtting-me/
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    Jun 28, 2009 4:15 PM GMT
    metta8 said^
    wow...you really don't know your history if you think that not much has changed. icon_rolleyes.gif


    And as to your answer to the question speak volumes about yourself. You have a right to lean and change your mind. Things will not change for the better by doing 'nothing'.
    I hate to hear young and newly out gay people criticizing gays when they really don't have a clue how things used to be, like being arrested just for sitting around with your gay friends if they were even bold enough to be seen with other queers. And it has only been very recently that the supreme court ruled against anti-gay sex laws.

    We are not even 70 years from when you might be a good candidate for a lobotomy if you were gay icon_rolleyes.gif

    Read up on LGBT history before saying stupid stuff guys. Googling makes it easier than ever. You don't even have to go to the Library even though I would recommend having at least one LGBT history book if you can't do that.

    Here are some links

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_LGBT_history

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#Important_Supreme_Court_decisions
  • swimbikerun

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    Jun 28, 2009 4:32 PM GMT
    ActiveAndFit said

    We are not even 70 years from when you might be a good candidate for a lobotomy if you were gay
    Looks like they already got to half of West Hollywood!
  • CAtoFL

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    Jun 28, 2009 4:36 PM GMT
    It's factually incorrect to say that things haven't changed. I opened a gay nightclub in 1989 and things are certainly different from then and now. And blatantly difference fron 1969 and now.

    Did anyone go out dancing last night? I have older friends who routinely expected to be rounded up and tossed in jail overnight if they danced with another male back in 'their day'. Perhaps the discrimination they experienced is so fierce that we block it out as 'naw, that couldn't have happened'. Yet it did. We have progressed.

    But before we slap on our Pride gear and congratulate ourselves, we should realize that we have many, many miles to go. There is tremendous hatred in our community. Ageism, racism, etc. We've seen it repeatedly in forum posts on here. God forbid anyone should date someone X years older than he is (even proposing a 'formula' to determine what 'appropriate' desire is). Innumerable posts tell us that an RJer of ethnicity X can't get a date with ethnicity Y. I'm reminded of when I asked a very good friend of mine (who happens to be black and gay) whether Martin Luther King could get us gay rights if he were in his heyday and our community's spokesman. "Nope," he said, "too old and too black". Scary, but I fear, true.

    I think the black community gained quite a leap in civil rights by realizing that cohesion is an important social and political tool. Even the terms 'brothers' and 'sisters' as used by their civil rights proponents spoke to that concept. The gay community is completely fractionalized and marginalized. By ourselves. There is precious little cohesion and much more blatant division. We are too busy valuing the meaningless (a 'look' or a 'fashion') and too little concerned with letting the world know that we are real people of real value. We are often so consumed by sex that we can't see beyond the bottle of lube on the nightstand.

    So, maybe this pride, recognize where we've been and how far we've come. But for god's sake, don't be satisfied. Ask where we are going. What our community will be like in another 40 years. Because many of the minds on here will be steering our community's ship to that destination.

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    Jun 28, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
    swimbikerun said
    ActiveAndFit saidWe are not even 70 years from when you might be a good candidate for a lobotomy if you were gay
    Looks like they already got to half of West Hollywood!
    Are you sure you are not mistaking a perm for a lobotomy? icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 28, 2009 4:43 PM GMT
    ActiveAndFit said
    swimbikerun said
    ActiveAndFit saidWe are not even 70 years from when you might be a good candidate for a lobotomy if you were gay
    Looks like they already got to half of West Hollywood!
    Are you sure you are not mistaking a perm for a lobotomy? icon_lol.gif
    Look, you know what trouble I caused with that last post. Are you trying to get me banned? icon_razz.gif
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  • metta

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    Jun 28, 2009 11:51 PM GMT
    When AARP does a better job than you of remembering the 40th Anniversary of Stonewall and the improvements that have followed you got some work to do. eusa_naughty.gif

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    Sedative said
    RyanReBoRn said

    Still nothing, maybe read a chapter in my book on technical writing.

    40 years have passed with barely any progress on achieving equality isn't something to celebrate, it's an indication that this failed strategy needs to change.

    At this rate, you'll be wearing that second class citizen shirt for many more years to come...


    Barely?

    In the US maybe. But what happened had consequences that reached far beyond your borders. Younger people have far more open views nowadays too, but yeah... dealing with the government and their penchant for appeasing the fundamentalist right in an effort to look 'purer' is the hard part.

    As for 'failed strategy'. What exactly do you mean by that? Stonewall's 'strategy' was open resistance and direct confrontation. And that's certainly vastly different from what HRC is doing right now.

    Or do you have a problem with the fact that the guys who did it were mostly Drag Queens? Where were the masculine gays back then huh?


    You know RayanRBORN, in many ways there is truth to your words, and it's why so many gay democrats in the US of A feel it gives them the licence to act badly, because the advancement in the US of A concerning homosexual rights, has been small, and slow. Compared to many other parts of the world, and the US of A is meant to be a world leader.

    But others would rather label you as self hating, than deal with the truth of your words.
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